New Titans Stadium (60,000 capacity dome, ground level retail, directly east of Nissan Stadium)

[glamdring269]

7 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

Buffalo Bills new stadium capacity is 62k down from 71,608.

 

Raiders is at around 65k.

[titanhog]

Would be really cool if they used lighting like they do at the Preds’ games and at night, make it look like there’s a tone arm dropping onto the “circle” dome and have it spinning like a vinyl record. 

[LOOOP-Y]

I'm sorta picking up library vibes from this design. Yes, library and maybe some Frank Lloyd Wright sprinkled in for good measure.    

OH I got it! A library.... designed by Frank Lloyd Wright... IF it were inside the Hickory Hollow Mall food court circa 1990!  

Nailed it. 

[DDIG]

43 minutes ago, glamdring269 said:

 

Raiders is at around 65k.

As I mentioned earlier in thread, smaller more amenitized stadiums is the future (unless you're somewhere giant like LA). People have been lost to the quality and attainability of big TVs and 4k broadcasts. 

Edited October 25, 2022 by DDIG

[UrbanWes03]

I really like the huge wraparound outdoor balcony areas. I've never seen that at such a scale for a stadium and I think it's gonna be a really nice and engaging experience. But, I do wish it wasn't so boxy. They did a good job with it, but it would've been nice to have it stand out more as a stadium, rather than a box. It's downtown location and the way it's integrated with the surrounding area though is where I really think this stadium shines. I mean, there are NO surface lots (that we can see) surrounding it!  And newer, arguably nicer and larger stadiums like SoFi and Allegiant have surface lots on ALL sides… Heck, even New York City's NFL stadium has parking on all sides, and it has the largest mass transit system in the country! That is an extremely awesome and important aspect of this project IMO. It really gives us a leg up compared to other newer stadiums that have more seats, as people who might not get tickets can just enjoy themselves in the surrounding neighborhood. For its boxy shape, I think they definitely integrated it and designed it well. Even if there were slight curves or bold angles, I think that would've been better than nothing. The domed roof kinda gives that, but I think for what they've came up with and how it's interacting with the East Bank, it is gonna be a really amazing addition! If anything, I feel like we can all agree it will be better than what's there now in terms of design, engagement, and urban development.  And no surface lots!!!

Edited October 25, 2022 by UrbanWes03

[Rick Dalton]

I like that it blends in. I didn’t want it to be gaudy.

[satalac]

They should call it the Turntable. 

[Luvemtall]

Overall , I think this design is intentional. Yes it’s not a “ wow, look at that stadium “ but I’m thinking that’s the idea. This is supposed to be MORE then just a place for the Titans to play, it’s going to be part of a whole new neighborhood of Downtown Nashville . It’s intended to be a multi purpose venue, part of the Nashville vibe. It has design elements reminiscent of 5th & Broad,  NY , and other cues of the city. If they  do put TPAC in close to this ( and hopefully other museums, art galleries, theaters etc) it can become a vibrant entertainment and social gathering center. Activate the riverfront and I believe we will have a winner!

[glamdring269]

44 minutes ago, DDIG said:

As I mentioned earlier in thread, smaller more amenitized stadiums is the future (unless you're somewhere giant like LA). People have been lost to the quality and attainability of big TVs and 4k broadcasts. 

Large TVs plus the Red Zone channel for me. It really feels like a product that is better at home than attending in person, at least in my opinion.

Now, about those 4k broadcasts... am I missing those? Because I've yet to find a Titans game in 4k. Or basically any game. I don't even think the Super Bowl has been in 4k in the past 2 seasons.

[Melrose]

Where is the parking in the renderings?  

[UrbanWes03]

19 minutes ago, Luvemtall said:

Overall , I think this design is intentional. Yes it’s not a “ wow, look at that stadium “ but I’m thinking that’s the idea. This is supposed to be MORE then just a place for the Titans to play, it’s going to be part of a whole new neighborhood of Downtown Nashville . It’s intended to be a multi purpose venue, part of the Nashville vibe. It has design elements reminiscent of 5th & Broad,  NY , and other cues of the city. If they  do put TPAC in close to this ( and hopefully other museums, art galleries, theaters etc) it can become a vibrant entertainment and social gathering center. Activate the riverfront and I believe we will have a winner!

Well said!

[MLBrumby]

7 minutes ago, Melrose said:

Where is the parking in the renderings?  

That's my question too. Is it in a parking garage under that green space?  And that is crying out for a pedestrian bridge from the foot of Church Street across the Cumberland.  And how much of that $2.1 billion will be spent on the surrounding infrastructure like that park and the new streets? 

Edited October 25, 2022 by MLBrumby

[SoundScan]

Looks great! As others have said, it's meant to be more than a football stadium that gets used 8-10 times a year, so integrating into the neighborhood is more important than making it an architectural vanity project that looks good from a blimp on TV. Hope it doesn't get value engineered into anything more plain, however, given what happened with the current stadium.

[Melrose]

13 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:

That's my question too. Is it in a parking garage under that green space?  And that is crying out for a pedestrian bridge from the foot of Church Street across the Cumberland.  And how much of that $2.1 billion will be spent on the surrounding infrastructure like that park and the new streets? 

As Bob Mendes has pointed out repeatedly, the $2.1 Billion does not include non-stadium nearby infrastructure.  Cooper used to admit this,  then he got nervous earlier this year because this meant the total number for both is more like $3 Billion and they thought the number looked bad.  
 

 

[Teejr2824]

I really wish they can PSC metal yard land soon. With the new stadium and new neighborhood that coming it will continue to be a eyesore for that area. But love the design myself. 

[lmc123]

2 hours ago, sambo said:

Thought we would get something more visually appealing than this

What is most visually appealing is the new stadium surrounding by parks, new developments, activated riverfront, new boulevard...

[MLBrumby]

Sorry guys for all the questions here (I have tried to find answers among the recent comments) but I haven't been following this closely.

So the number of seats at 60,000 would be enough for college bowl games? What if Nashville wants to be considered for CFP/championship or even the SEC championship? 

And in those renderings, I don't see where the sides could be opened up. Looks like more of the type of sealed glazed sides of so many buildings that have gone up there. I realize these are concepts.  Is openable sides a priority requirement in the actual final plans.

Edited October 25, 2022 by MLBrumby

[PillowTalk4]

I don't dislike it.  But, it is a bit of an overkill to make it appear as a simple neighborhood building, which it is not.  I just wonder how it's going to look standing alone.  Keep in mind, this will probably be built well before the East Bank development truly takes off.  And, while the concept of how buildings around it look nice in these renderings, we should not assume that developers will come in and create anything that remotely looks like those buildings.   It's almost like they are trying to create a Fifth & Broadway concept on a much larger scale.  

For me stadiums and arenas are an opportunity to create iconic structures for a city.  I just don't see this concept being iconic.  Bridgestone arena is iconic to Nashville.  And, I love it.  Some people thought it was gaudy and looked out of place.  I felt it gave a tired looking area a facelift and new life.  I was never a fan of Nissan.  It is really a mass of concrete with no architectural style.  To me it took on the overly simplistic styles of other stadiums built in that era like Tampa, Philly and Pittsburgh.  

This stadium can set the tone for other development in the area.  I'm afraid that a new performing arts center will end up being even less iconic.  That a school for the performing arts will be blah.  This is new area of Nashville, not Broadway.  I just think it's  an opportunity to create an area with its own style and vibe.   This is not doing that for me.  Maybe I need to see more.

Edited October 25, 2022 by PillowTalk4

[Nash_12South]

Keep in mind that designs "evolve" as they develop. Here is an early rendering of 5th + Broad, from that thread. 

Edited October 25, 2022 by Nash_12South

[bigeasy]

3 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Underwhelming!

I don't understand how someone could be underwhelmed by this.  I would venture that no matter what you were going to be upset.

There is nothing basic about this design. If anything this is the most unique stadium out there when it comes to the exterior. I love how little it resembles a stadium on the outside. I bet there isn't one stadium out there that appears to have as much street activation as this. If this is built like the renderings show, this will be a grand slam for designs. Ignoring cost, this visually is extremely exciting. Both the stadium and the rendering of the area around it. 

[smeagolsfree]

Now comes the hard part. Selling this to Metro Council. Even though I am not a fan of the design I do think it is going to change. This is probably the cheap version or the version that will have the least cost overruns at this point in the game.

Some questions have come up here and that is the creative funding involved. It looks as if Cooper is pulling a Carl Dean, the man he criticized all the time. I think the rocks are hiding somewhere in the pudding and when the Council starts to eat, I am afraid some of them will get rocks in their mouth and have a very bad taste. I hope that is not the case.

Next is where is the parking and how many spaces will there be. That has not been addressed. It will be the same debacle that there is at the soccer stadium....not enough parking! You either have to build parking or Mass transit. This mayor hides his head in the and every time transit is mentioned and thinks buses are the answer to all of life's questions. Are they going to make this a no parking required area too and expect everyone to walk to the games. I am all for no parking, however, there has to be an alternative mode of transit.

1 minute ago, bigeasy said:

I don't understand how someone could be underwhelmed by this.  I would venture that no matter what you were going to be upset.

There is nothing basic about this design. If anything this is the most unique stadium out there when it comes to the exterior. I love how little it resembles a stadium on the outside. I bet there isn't one stadium out there that appears to have as much street activation as this. If this is built like the renderings show, this will be a grand slam for designs. Ignoring cost, this visually is extremely exciting. Both the stadium and the rendering of the area around it. 

I am not the only one, I am just one of the few that had the guts to post it. I know of others on and off the board.

[Nathan_in_DC]

Wow, this is awesome! If they can pull this off, especially with the development around it, I'll be impressed. No sea of parking that is a huge waste of space for 350 days out of the year, plazas that will provide open space for the development around it, and a design that blends in with the neighborhood...a huge win that will be an asset for the city and that will hopefully result in a vibrant East Bank. Now, just to get some good transit to get people to and from the games by something other than car!

[ruraljuror]

I love it. 

And the roof kind of has Tennessee flag vibes. 

[sambo]

1 hour ago, glamdring269 said:

Large TVs plus the Red Zone channel for me. It really feels like a product that is better at home than attending in person, at least in my opinion.

Now, about those 4k broadcasts... am I missing those? Because I've yet to find a Titans game in 4k. Or basically any game. I don't even think the Super Bowl has been in 4k in the past 2 seasons.

Fox usually has their national game on in 4k, but you have to click an extra button. I have Comcast so don't know if that helps or not.

[bnacincy]

Absolutely beautiful! For 2 billion dollars it should be, right?

I'm coming around to this entire East Bank Redevelopment idea with the stadium as its centerpiece.

What should happen are two things: redevelopment in the neighborhoods adjacent and some serious investment in mass transit as you are going to lose a lot of commuter parking spaces.  Some park n rides out in the neighborhoods are what is needed.