Inside 440 - Berry Hill, Midtown, Vanderbilt, 12S, WeHo, Fairgrounds, etc.

[markhollin]

Nashville Fair is running Sept. 9-18 at the Fairgrounds. 

https://www.nashfair.fun/

[markhollin]

2211 8th Ave. South (former Berry Hill Animal Hospital) has been razed and fencing up around site.  Unsure what is planned here.

Looking NE from 8th Ave. South, 1/2 block north of Bradford Ave:

[Nash_12South]

On 5/11/2022 at 12:07 PM, markhollin said:

Hearts Cafe will open its 2nd Nashville location in the former Fork's Drum Closet building (1 story, 1,924 sq. ft.) at 2701 12th Ave. South. A permit for $250,000 has been granted for the changes to the structure by contractor MTLC Inc.  Hearts has an Australian styled menu.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/work-to-begin-on-australia-influenced-caf-in-12south/article_e63a039c-d0b2-11ec-9781-b7787f81fdf0.html
 

 

Another building permit for this site appears to have been begun for a 3188 sf retail tenant Vuori. Vuori is a high end athletic wear store with locations in places like Malibu, Newport Beach and even London. https://vuoriclothing.com/

Work has been ongoing on the left, back side, of the building for several weeks, which I'll guess is for the coffee house.

[Melrose]

49 minutes ago, Nash_12South said:

Another building permit for this site appears to have been begun for a 3188 sf retail tenant Vuori. Vuori is a high end athletic wear store with locations in places like Malibu, Newport Beach and even London. https://vuoriclothing.com/

Work has been ongoing on the left, back side, of the building for several weeks, which I'll guess is for the coffee house.

They should  rename 12 South to "E-Commerce Brand Alley" ....

[PaulChinetti]

On 9/10/2022 at 7:26 PM, smeagolsfree said:

You guys can’t have your cake and eat it too with regards to parking. Nashville does not have a viable mass transit system and likely will not for at least another ten years best case scenario. With all of the housing you are getting there, plus retail, plus a venue or two you are going to have a lot of folks that do not live in the neighborhood visiting. I am not going to be one of them if there is no parking. Where I live I do not have a choice to Uber in. Uber does not know my neighborhood exist and there are aa lot of folks that travel into Nashville that ride sharing services is not an option.

Same goes for the Fairgrounds venues not to say there is anything I would go to do there. I am not a race fan, soccer fan, nor a flea market attendee, but I realize Nashville needs those things. Parking was not planned out there either. It is a mess and I knew it would be. WeHo is about to be a mess. Wait till all those apartments are built out and everything hat is planned is finished and then think about what is saiid here. It will be like Germantown during the evening. You can barely drive the two way streets there now because of all of the parked cars on the side streets and they are building more. 

The plan about making parking optional for developments is going to be a risky one if it is passed, because if a developer does not have to build parking he is going to save a ton of money. It is also a double edge sword if they need parking to entice tenants or residents.

If Nashville does not have a mass transit system that works (buses in this city are not) then we are going to be in bigger trouble.

Sorry Paul, most of the time we agree, but this time it’s your neighborhood so you get to build your own mess and live in it. The form and function of WeHo streets are a mess and throw in a train at the wrong time with a big fairgrounds function and a function at the new venue and you have spilt martinis everywhere.

I like the new venue but I see their concern. It’s also the same people that complain about the race track I will wager.

I was out of town all weekend. I enjoy a good disagreement, it's what makes the world turn!

Germantown first, I love that, it slows people down when they are afraid they are going to run into another car or a parked car. One way streets, streets with no parking become speedways because people think they can go as fast as they want. I would love to see the pedestrian/vehicle accident numbers on streets in Nasvhille where there is/isn't park and versus one way streets and 2 way streets. 

It is my neighborhood and I welcome stuff like this, if I wanted to live in a neighborhood with giant surface parking lots, I'd go live out in Hermitage or move to Houston, haha. I throughly enjoy the hustle and bustle of it all in the city. I don't disagree with you on the train, I used to like trains until I lived here. 

It is busy during Soccer games and during Flea Markets but so be it, I live within a mile of downtown, again, it's what's to be expected. 

You 80% of the time, the roads around here are desolate with very few cars on them, we've over built in this city (and country) and it's high time for their to be road diets everywhere. AND time for everyone to stop subsidizing parking. If you want parking you need to pay for it. There is too much free parking in this city. So give the developers options to not build it. If that doesn't work for potential renters/buyers then they won't live there. But if it is then they will buy it up. If it doesn't then the developer will lose money and a new one will come in and take over. 

Long winded and wide ranging but, I feel like you get my point 

[smeagolsfree]

I do my friend and I know it is not all of the time. It will be figured out in the long run!

[markhollin]

Music Row Apts. (7 stories, 105 units, ground level retail, underground garage) update.

Looking SE from Grand Ave., 1/2 block east of 17th Ave. South: 

[markhollin]

Oral Surgical Institute (3 stories, 35,000 sq. ft. medical space) update: topped-out.

Looking NE from 28th Ave. North at Felicia St:

Looking SE from 28th Ave. North at Delaware Ave:

[PillowTalk4]

Since parking came up as an issue in this topic, I want to ask, can developers in Nashville build garages along with their residential properties to sell/rent individual parking spaces to tenants?  Or, are they required to provide a certain number of spaces for renters/buyers that are included in the cost to rent or deeded if you are buying?

I have a friend who used to rent a condo in DC prior to him buying his own place.  The condo building where he rented has an underground garage, but spaces were not deeded or assigned to each unit.  Instead, if a tenant wanted a space in the garage they had to purchase it.  The tenant in essence became a property owner of that space.  It was a separate transaction from buying their residential unit.  The owner of the condo unit that my friend rented, owned two parking spaces in that building.  The owner, who no longer lives in the building, keeps one space for himself because he works in the general area of the building.  The other space he rents to either other tenants of the building or people who work in the area.  My friend never needed a parking space because he doesn't drive.  But the owner would allow my friends guest to park there during hours/periods in which he wasn't using it.   If he had overnight guests during the week they would pretty much have to move their car out by 7:00AM each day.  The owner would notify him if he was planning to use the space after 7:00 PM weeknights, on weekends or during special events.  In other words, they communicated back and forth on the availability of the space.

Other tenants in the building that owned both a condo unit and parking space, would either sell them separately or bundle them together.   Parking spaces in that building sold for upwards of $15K -$20K back around 2006.  Today parking spaces in DC sell on average between $25K-$30K.  The highest price paid for a parking space in DC in the last year is $70K.

[nashville born]

A 16-story mixed use tower is planned for the Vanderbilt area.  I imagine Mark will add a string for the project.    It looks to be diagonally across the street from the 2416 West End project (I forget the name of it).

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/mixed-use-tower-eyed-for-elliston-place/article_ffe898c0-3463-11ed-9454-f338049504b0.html

 

[downtownresident]

3 minutes ago, nashville born said:

A 16-story mixed use tower is planned for the Vanderbilt area.  I imagine Mark will add a string for the project.    It looks to be diagonally across the street from the 2416 West End project (I forget the name of it).

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/mixed-use-tower-eyed-for-elliston-place/article_ffe898c0-3463-11ed-9454-f338049504b0.html

 

This was a nice surprise that popped up this afternoon on E-Permits. 

[PaulChinetti]

45 minutes ago, PillowTalk4 said:

Since parking came up as an issue in this topic, I want to ask, can developers in Nashville build garages along with their residential properties to sell/rent individual parking spaces to tenants?  Or, are they required to provide a certain number of spaces for renters/buyers that are included in the cost to rent or deeded if you are buying?

I have a friend who used to rent a condo in DC prior to him buying his own place.  The condo building where he rented has an underground garage, but spaces were not deeded or assigned to each unit.  Instead, if a tenant wanted a space in the garage they had to purchase it.  The tenant in essence became a property owner of that space.  It was a separate transaction from buying their residential unit.  The owner of the condo unit that my friend rented, owned two parking spaces in that building.  The owner, who no longer lives in the building, keeps one space for himself because he works in the general area of the building.  The other space he rents to either other tenants of the building or people who work in the area.  My friend never needed a parking space because he doesn't drive.  But the owner would allow my friends guest to park there during hours/periods in which he wasn't using it.   If he had overnight guests during the week they would pretty much have to move their car out by 7:00AM each day.  The owner would notify him if he was planning to use the space after 7:00 PM weeknights, on weekends or during special events.  In other words, they communicated back and forth on the availability of the space.

Other tenants in the building that owned both a condo unit and parking space, would either sell them separately or bundle them together.   Parking spaces in that building sold for upwards of $15K -$20K back around 2006.  Today parking spaces in DC sell on average between $25K-$30K.  The highest price paid for a parking space in DC in the last year is $70K.

I remember back in 2008-09 when I was looking at condos, in the Icon you had to buy the spot separate from the condo. Not sure at all how it is now.

[Nash_12South]

Isn't this where Martin's Bar-B-Que currently sits? How long have they actually been there, 2-3 years? Nothing against the new tower.

Edited September 14, 2022 by Nash_12South

[markhollin]

Haven Charlotte (9-10  stories,  316 units, internal garage) update: up to 5th level in spots.

Looking south from Charlotte Ave.,  1/3 block west of City Ave:

Looking SW from City Place, NW of The Shay Residences:

Looking NW from City Place, west of The Shay Residences:

[PaulChinetti]

Planning commission meeting on the music venue and office space in WeHo. Starts around 1:05. Comments start around 1:15.

[Mr_Bond]

22 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

I remember back in 2008-09 when I was looking at condos, in the Icon you had to buy the spot separate from the condo. Not sure at all how it is now.

In Terrazzo, the assigned parking spaces are part of the unit and sold when the unit sells.  There are a few 'extra' spaces and the unit owner must sell them before the sale of their unit closes.  In other words, a parking space is not allowed to be owned by non-residents.  Of course, this applies to the residential garage, not the commercial part of the garage.

[markhollin]

A 5 story mixed-use residential project of unknown units is being planned on the 6 parcel, 1.06 acre site at 1410 Jo Johnston Ave., just south of Marathon Village.  A vacant, non-historic  funeral home currently sites on the site.  the developer is not known at this point, but they are seeking a rezoning of the property.  The land is under contract for a non-published price.  The current owners, Ronald and Sandra Smith, bought the land in 1997 for $100,000.  

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/marathon-village-area-site-eyed-for-residential-building/article_9e75bcd0-350d-11ed-a365-771ec1c6e6d9.html
 

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of the frame:

[markhollin]

2309 Clifton Ave. (Cushman Wakefield property) update: fencing up; buildings razed. 

Looking SE from Clifton Ave.,  1/4 block east of 24th Ave. North/CSX crossing:

[markhollin]

Odyssey at the Park (5 stories, 75 units, ground level retail, internal garage) update: up to 4th level across the site.

Looking south from 31st Ave. North, 1/4 block south of Parthenon Ave:

Looking NW from intersection of 31st Ave. North and Long Blvd:

Looking NE from Long Blvd. at Avoca St:

[KJHburg]

Went through the Wedgewood Ho or WeHo area today.  Crazy amount of apartment construction in that area.  Like that huge guitar billboard but my photo did not turn out.   Liked the restored hoisery mills 

[markhollin]

Clarendale West (5 stories, 172 senior living units) update: all structures razed.

Looking north from Fairmont Drive1/2 bock east of I-440:

Losers Bar & Grill expansion on Division St. update:

[markhollin]

Vanderbilt Univ. Kirkland Hall renovation update: encased in scaffolding.

Looking SW from Kirkland Circle, 1/2 block south of West end Ave:

 

[Nash_12South]

Seeing on the epermits site - A core/shell permit is getting started for 2311 12th Ave. S., currently a parking lot serving Faherty and Taqueria Del Sol. First I've heard of this.

 

[markhollin]

"Midtown's 'Better Half': Overlooked northern segment of city's bustling urban district prepped for reinvention."

Nashville’s Midtown is about to boom.

Or to be more specific, the north half of the bustling area is set to see major change.

In fact, that segment of the urban district some locals describe as the city’s “second downtown” is braced for the start (by early 2023) of no fewer than nine projects involving buildings of five floors or taller, some of them mixed-use. The boom could rival that seen the past few years in the south half of Midtown, a construction frenzy that continues with work on Moore Building and The Broadview at Vanderbilt (previously known as the Vanderbilt Graduate Housing Village).

“These will be great value pick-ups and buildouts when completed,” local real estate investor and developer Brad Bars says of the northern mass of Midtown. “They won’t be the flashiest projects, but they will make a lot of sense.”

And though Bars says the looming developments might not garner Nashvillians’ attention like those of the south half of Midtown have done since the Great Recession ended, he adds that simply having reasonably large, urban buildings constructed in an area known for lots of suburban-oriented, one-story structures will be noteworthy.
 

“Wayne Gretzky said play where the puck is going, not where it’s been,” Bars says.
 

For this exercise, the north half of Midtown can be defined as bordered by Hayes Street on the south, Charlotte Avenue on the north, the downtown interstate loop on the east and 23rd Avenue on the west.

More on this overview of all the new developments in Midtown behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/magazine/boom_2022/midtown-s-better-half/article_0f811abe-35ef-11ed-8606-636076a4c3e5.html

[PaulChinetti]

33 minutes ago, Nash_12South said:

Seeing on the epermits site - A core/shell permit is getting started for 2311 12th Ave. S., currently a parking lot serving Faherty and Taqueria Del Sol. First I've heard of this.

Single story!?

How does something without at least 2 floors of residences get approved along that section of 12 South?