Legacy Union (former Charlotte Observer redevelopment)

[atlrvr]

That brick high-rise though 

[Reverie39]

Yeah, I'm not upset about it visually at all. Good looking tower, unique among its blue glass neighbors, and brings some MUCH needed residential to its area. I think it will add a lot to the skyline. 

Even if it is 500' or less, that is pretty significant as far as residential towers go. Knowing Charlotte it'll be 499.9999 ft specifically to screw the city over on skyscraper rankings. 

Edited October 12, 2023 by Reverie39

[AltNative]

I'm surprised y'all like this tower.  I think this tower would be the ugliest of the LU bunch and it aint close. Its just so elementary and a lazy mashing of BOAT and Honeywell with nothing creative or thoughtful to its design.

To each their own, though

[CLT Development]

27 minutes ago, AltNative said:

I'm surprised y'all like this tower.  I think this tower would be the ugliest of the LU bunch and it aint close. Its just so elementary and a lazy mashing of BOAT and Honeywell with nothing creative or thoughtful to its design.

To each their own, though

I mostly agree but also am fine with a completely "mid" filler building.

[Synopsis101]

I’m just glad it’s not another boring glass building.

Edited October 13, 2023 by Synopsis101

[TheMightyBK]

Looks a hair above average.  Now if they would just cap that deck with green space LU would look pretty good overall 

[Crucial_Infra]

11 hours ago, AltNative said:

I'm surprised y'all like this tower.  I think this tower would be the ugliest of the LU bunch and it aint close. Its just so elementary and a lazy mashing of BOAT and Honeywell with nothing creative or thoughtful to its design.

To each their own, though

The skyline desperately needs some color other than blue. This building as “mid” as it is adds much needed contrast (yes even though it’s similar to its Honeywell neighbor).  imo, no need to waste some spectacular design on a building that’s just gonna be overwhelmed in size by all the other nearby towers 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Crucial_Infra

[CLT Development]

5 hours ago, Crucial_Infra said:

The skyline desperately needs some color other than blue. This building as “mid” as it is adds much needed contrast (yes even though it’s similar to its Honeywell neighbor).  imo, no need to waste some spectacular design on a building that’s just gonna be overwhelmed in size by all the other nearby towers 

It really does need contast, though I don't expect this building to get blocks from view ever because of the gargantuan parking deck. I will say that as rental towers go, its not bad. Apartment towers in any city rarely strive for above the mean architecture.

On 10/11/2023 at 6:04 PM, KJHburg said:

Capital Grille uptown is great so is Steak 48 in Southpark.  But my overall favorite is in Cabarrus County 73 and Main a farm to table ranch to table restaurant in Mt Pleasant.  

This Little Alley Steakhouse is one of the top 100 steakhouses in the country with its 2 locations in Atlanta and coming soon to uptown. 

and I am still waitiing on mine to be cooked as well.  Reservations must be back up for years. 

Come on over, you know where I live, you got me the house. LOL. By the way yall KJHburg is a great realtor and you should all use him.

[SydneyCarton]

Does that rendering show the actual design that will rise?  I had assumed that it was a concept. 
 

Might it rise soon?   There’s demand for housing.  
 

Nonetheless, Nothing seems to be happening with some other Uptown residential projects like the one  on the old Museum of the South site on College Street.  I wonder what’s going on.

Edited October 13, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[Blue_Devil]

28 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Does that rendering show the actual design that will rise?  I had assumed that it was a concept. 
 

Might it rise soon?   There’s demand for housing.  
 

Nonetheless, Nothing seems to be happening with some other Uptown residential projects like the one  on the old Museum of the South site on College Street.  I wonder what’s going on.

Interest rates are going on… 

[ArchiCLT]

7 hours ago, Crucial_Infra said:

The skyline desperately needs some color other than blue. This building as “mid” as it is adds much needed contrast (yes even though it’s similar to its Honeywell neighbor).  imo, no need to waste some spectacular design on a building that’s just gonna be overwhelmed in size by all the other nearby towers 

Just a note to everyone here, as an architect not on this project, the above rendering depicts the glass as a whiter shade, but accurately-depicting glass in renderings (getting the opacity, reflectivity, etc. correct) can be difficult with rendering software. By no means does this rendering mean that the same blue glass won't be used. Often in process/non-final renderings, the glazing materiality isn't accurate to what will be procured. My assumption is that LS3P/Lincoln Harris will use the same glass spec to match the rest of Legacy Union.

We on UP and the general public can over-analyze renderings that get released. In today's world, when architects release initial renderings (especially pre-VE), the expectation is that the design must perfectly match the renderings, but that is rarely the case.

[CLT Development]

7 minutes ago, ArchiCLT said:

Just a note to everyone here, as an architect not on this project, the above rendering depicts the glass as a whiter shade, but accurately-depicting glass in renderings (getting the opacity, reflectivity, etc. correct) can be difficult with rendering software. By no means does this rendering mean that the same blue glass won't be used. Often in process/non-final renderings, the glazing materiality isn't accurate to what will be procured. My assumption is that LS3P/Lincoln Harris will use the same glass spec to match the rest of Legacy Union.

We on UP and the general public can over-analyze renderings that get released. In today's world, when architects release initial renderings (especially pre-VE), the expectation is that the design must perfectly match the renderings, but that is rarely the case.

It'll absolutely be the exact same glass spec. Though I must admit I like how the colors change based on light, angle and shadow. Deloitte and Robinson Bradshaw look like two completely different glasses, but they arent.

11 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

Interest rates are going on… 

From what I understand they are actually pretty close to announcing and starting. They've made themselves/their financiers (Goldman Sachs) $200M (Capitol Towers) $441.6M (Bank of America Tower), $201.2M (Deloitte), $275M (Honeywell), $122M (Morrocroft) dollars thus far, they might be in a position to self finance. 

Edited October 13, 2023 by CLT Development

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

From that rendering…I forgot from previous discussions but is that shorter tower along mint office or hotel? Hope there’s still some hotel aspect to LU. 

[DJ8hep]

On 10/12/2023 at 8:57 AM, KJHburg said:

taken on this day 5 years ago.  BOAT getting ready to top out.  Look out down by Southend lack of cranes and high rises then.  

These are awesome archive shots @KJHburg!!

Edited October 14, 2023 by DJ8hep

[DJ8hep]

On 10/13/2023 at 10:46 AM, ArchiCLT said:

Just a note to everyone here, as an architect not on this project, the above rendering depicts the glass as a whiter shade, but accurately-depicting glass in renderings (getting the opacity, reflectivity, etc. correct) can be difficult with rendering software. By no means does this rendering mean that the same blue glass won't be used. Often in process/non-final renderings, the glazing materiality isn't accurate to what will be procured. My assumption is that LS3P/Lincoln Harris will use the same glass spec to match the rest of Legacy Union.

We on UP and the general public can over-analyze renderings that get released. In today's world, when architects release initial renderings (especially pre-VE), the expectation is that the design must perfectly match the renderings, but that is rarely the case.

Glass can be tricky to get right in a rendering as well. I know that depending on the software the materials can show up differently too.

[grodney]

My view from the 28th floor of the new Duke building......I guess that's as high as it's going?

 

 

[DJ8hep]

12 hours ago, grodney said:

My view from the 28th floor of the new Duke building......I guess that's as high as it's going?

 

 

I think you might be right! Some shots from the street as well:

[J-Rob]

Lincoln  Harris sure did a fine job of disguising their new "parking deck district" as a downtown suburban office park! Heck, if they add a few restaurants in the empty retail spaces you might not even notice they are tucked into the largest parking deck complex in the Southeast!

Edited October 19, 2023 by J-Rob

[videtur quam contuor]

Anyone here use this monster parking facility? What is the use versus capacity ratio?

[Matthew.Brendan]

Next UP walking tour, Legacy Union parking garages

[turbocraig]

20 hours ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

Next UP walking tour, Legacy Union parking garages

Good god, we can’t walk that far.  We’ll have to drive. 

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

The main parking deck is huge up there. Rarely see cars. I’ve always thought it could have been a cool amenity for the offices to have a sky park up there or put some pickle ball courts. Seriously though, I don’t know if this is correct but I thought it was marketed to host events up there?

[KJHburg]

Bright lights coming to Legacy!  Large advertising signs like Times Square proposed at S Church and Brooklyn Village. 

 

 

 

""Lincoln Harris filed a rezoning petition today with the city of Charlotte to allow for three electronic signs to be placed at its Legacy Union development. The three outdoor signs would have a total maximum face area of 5,900 square feet. The square footage would be allocated among the three sides of the building, according to the site plan.

The first sign would be 1,400 square feet at the corner of Tryon Plaza; the second would be 1,400 square feet at the corner of Brooklyn Village Avenue and Tryon Street; and the third would be 3,100 square feet at the corner of Brooklyn Village Avenue and Church Street.""

New uptown Charlotte tower could feature electronic signs - Charlotte Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

Edited October 20, 2023 by KJHburg

[Synopsis101]

Would be cool and inviting.

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

I am 100 percent onboard with this. I give credit to the epicentre for being the first to introduce something like this a long time ago. Changes the entire energy of the area. After coming back from Japan and Korea recently…we need more video boards haha. The rendering above looks like it could do those cool 3D animations where it looks like things are popping out of the screen.  I envision awesome ads on game day for panthers, CLTFC, etc. Bring them on!

Edited October 20, 2023 by CharlotteWkndBuzz