Legacy Union (former Charlotte Observer redevelopment)

[Norm2]

58 minutes ago, jtmonk said:

Not sure if this is the current proposal but just found this.

More podium parking.....I swear most of this site is just parking 

[KJHburg]

I just love the open government of the town of Cary population 180,000 plus.  Hey they have 80 miles of greenways and 2nd safest city in America. 

[CLT Development]

57 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

I just love the open government of the town of Cary population 180,000 plus.  Hey they have 80 miles of greenways and 2nd safest city in America. 

god bless 

So I have to say, I don't hate it, however, I wish they'd drift away from making it so matchy matchy with Bank of America Tower. It's really a slightly shrunken (its about 92% as tall to the parapet) version that has a glass square crown instead of a pyramid,  brick instead of sandblasted concrete, and balconies on the corner instead of glass curtain.

EDIT: I also just want to say that I immediately called @KJHburg and said "get your butt on Urban Planet this instant"

Edited July 26, 2023 by CLT Development

[KJHburg]

That's true @CLT Developmentand I like the residential tower. It is brick trimmed shorter Vue tower.

Edited July 26, 2023 by KJHburg

[DJ8hep]

This is awesome! It kind of reminds me of the Carlyle in Minneapolis!

 

 

[ertley]

I "don't hate it" either, it's at least breaking the blue glass and 'stucco' look of the Tryon to Church block... Someone opined back when Honeywell was being developed that s/he liked the extension/integration of the brick aesthetic of South End into downtown, and this consolidates that... With the continued redevelopment of Mint immediately below the Belk overpass, this might actually be a link between two zones, a sort of obverse to the Queensbridge Collective, performing the same function but in the opposite direction. 

The podium parking doesn't bother me so much, either. When walking from Tryon you'll not really be focused to your left, and with the stadium remaining ahead, and hopefully a really cool rehabbing of the old Duke Center to the right, there will be plenty of mitigating factors. Church below Brooklyn Village Way is a lost cause anyhow.  If Lincoln Harris commits to retail on the ground floor for most of the block, that's what you'll mainly see when at street level anyway. 

I say, a win. 

[SydneyCarton]

Is this a hotel/residential building that’s supposed to rise at LU?

[KJHburg]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Is this a hotel/residential building that’s supposed to rise at LU?

good question according the CARY Files and the LH RFQ a 250 key hotel is somewhere planned at Legacy.  Where not sure maybe a part of the residential tower or is it possible atop the wing from the new 24 story Robinson Bradshaw tower where they deck stretches back to Church?    But 250 room hotel is mentioned in the Cary Files. 

[KJHburg]

[TCLT]

4 hours ago, jtmonk said:

Not sure if this is the current proposal but just found this.

Stadium domed and Belk capped in this render.

[KJHburg]

3 minutes ago, TCLT said:

Stadium domed and Belk capped in this render.

good eye they may know something!  Or not.  

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

Like the height. Hope the foot traffic can make these retail spots fill up though. Don’t think BOA is domed in the rendering tho, just the shading for the seats I think. The bricked brother of the Vue. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by CharlotteWkndBuzz

[Hushpuppy321]

Lincoln Harris is a beast if they can get this rendered project off the ground here in the next year.  They would have aggressively developed all of Legacy Union at breakneck speed.

[CLT2014]

Glad they are adding a residential component. I'll reserve judgement until we see more about the street level. I can't tell if they are planning for more driveways to intersect Brooklyn Village Ave for parking garage access. The amenity deck is nice for residents to get private park access away from the general public, but the street frontage will determine what this adds to the broader community. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by CLT2014

[KJHburg]

It is hard to believe back in 2017 this was the rubble of the Charlotte Observer and now these 2 blocks have 3 opened towers, 4th one under construction, and last 2 getting ready to start.  I would have never imagined these 2 blocks would be built out that quick.  And I really like the design of the residential tower and hope it ends up looking something like that with the brick. 

[Madison Parkitect]

16 hours ago, CLT Development said:

So I have to say, I don't hate it, however, I wish they'd drift away from making it so matchy matchy with Bank of America Tower.

But how will people know it's a tall tower if it doesn't have vertical stripes running the whole length of it?

[CLT Development]

Did have a chance to talk to someone on the project, and this is not the final design, I think the scale remains the same, but supposed the design will be "more exciting than this." So we shall see. As much of a critic as I've been of this site, it's design, and it's somewhat negative contribution to the public realm, I have to give Lincoln Harris credit, they are a hell of developer.

[ABCW]

5 hours ago, CLT Development said:

Did have a chance to talk to someone on the project, and this is not the final design, I think the scale remains the same, but supposed the design will be "more exciting than this." So we shall see. As much of a critic as I've been of this site, it's design, and it's somewhat negative contribution to the public realm, I have to give Lincoln Harris credit, they are a hell of developer.

I'm guessing not, but any hints as to when we will learn about this "more exciting" design or when they will break ground? 

Before anyone says it I know I am essentially asking the same thing twice.

[Crucial_Infra]

Can someone explain why this was found in Cary? Why would LH’s plans for a development in Charlotte be filed in Cary? 

[ABCW]

6 minutes ago, Crucial_Infra said:

Can someone explain why this was found in Cary? Why would LH’s plans for a development in Charlotte be filed in Cary? 

Cary is currently bidding out the rights to develop a large chunk of land in their downtown to developers. Developers are including portfolios of their work in their proposals to try and prove why they should be chosen. Cary is leaving all of these proposals open to the public. Within their proposal Lincoln Harris had a slide dedicated to Legacy Union and thats where this rendering was found. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by ABCW

[CLT Development]

3 hours ago, ABCW said:

I'm guessing not, but any hints as to when we will learn about this "more exciting" design or when they will break ground? 

Before anyone says it I know I am essentially asking the same thing twice.

nope and nope

[15895]

1 apartment building (on top of more parking and office) isn’t going to change the vibe or add anything even if the base was as perfect as perfect could be. 

It’ll be pretty. That’s all I expect. Legacy union is too overwhelming in size that already Missed the mark for this little plot (and that it’s on church rather than Tryon) to somehow be something special. And there’s no synergy with anything nearby (yet.) 

It’s pretty & tall and will add a couple hundred people uptown. That’s it. 

[Hushpuppy321]

7 hours ago, AirNostrumMAD said:

1 apartment building (on top of more parking and office) isn’t going to change the vibe or add anything even if the base was as perfect as perfect could be. 

It’ll be pretty. That’s all I expect. Legacy union is too overwhelming in size that already Missed the mark for this little plot (and that it’s on church rather than Tryon) to somehow be something special. And there’s no synergy with anything nearby (yet.) 

It’s pretty & tall and will add a couple hundred people uptown. That’s it. 

Understand the critique and all but I’d be happy to see LH move on from here and pursue development around 1st Ward Park - at least something reasonably would get done in our lifetime.

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

Missed opportunity for the ACC HQ not to put the school flags on the poles this week since the Westin uptown hosted ACC media week. But then again, it’s still fenced off. Either waiting for the turf to grow or fenced bc it’s still a construction zone. One of those are in blue font lol. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by CharlotteWkndBuzz

[CLT Development]

3 hours ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

Missed opportunity for the ACC HQ not to put the school flags on the poles this week since the Westin uptown hosted ACC media week. But then again, it’s still fenced off. Either waiting for the turf to grow or fenced bc it’s still a construction zone. One of those are in blue font lol.
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It'll be swapped out in the next two weeks to ACC flags, the area is fenced off because of construction. Once its topped out I would expect it to open. I'm trying to work with them to organize a big picnic to celebrate it's opening!