Nashville Bits and Pieces

[LA_TN]

12 minutes ago, TNinVB said:

I’ve noticed that the Batman building has been dark for the last couple of nights. Did someone forget to flip the switch?

Crime is down. No need to beacon the Dark Knight

[Pdt2f]

1 hour ago, volsfanwill said:

real quick, anyone have a rough estimate of apartment and condo units  proposed and under construction within 440?

Im trying to explain to a friend from DC how much we are growing. 

5-10,000? I haven’t counted but just thinking of the Sobro projected residential buildings, Germantown, midtown, Capitol view, endeavor, etc. A crap ton, whatever the number. Especially for such a relatively small area. 

[BnaBreaker]

1 hour ago, volsfanwill said:

real quick, anyone have a rough estimate of apartment and condo units  proposed and under construction within 440?

Im trying to explain to a friend from DC how much we are growing. 

Somewhere between 72 and 18 gigajillion, I think.

[e-dub]

it started raining eight years ago today.

 

edit: this is the area that's currently whitsett park at thompson ln x old glenrose rd.

 

second edit: the white thing just below the red awning is the roof of a car.

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by e-dub

[smeagolsfree]

I remember we were at the forum meet that day at Casablanca, aka Bond, aka Starbucks in the Gulch. Pouring down.

[Guest]

Ha, yes...I rode my bike to the meet thinking the rain would pass quickly.

Edited May 1, 2018 by Guest

[smeagolsfree]

I remember you walking in the door.

[Hey_Hey]

11 hours ago, volsfanwill said:

real quick, anyone have a rough estimate of apartment and condo units  proposed and under construction within 440?

Im trying to explain to a friend from DC how much we are growing. 

I don't have an actual number for the entire area. I have calculated the number of units along music row and the music row roundabout from 2012-current, and it was right at 4000 units (which was before Kenect).  I would estimate somewhere around 20,000 units inside the 440 loop since 2012,  completed  or under construction. That also excludes all the 2 for 1 builds and small scale builds (<20 units).

Edited May 1, 2018 by Hey_Hey

[MidTenn1]

3 hours ago, e-dub said:

it started raining eight years ago today.........

I shot a video of a house being washed away about a mile (downhill) from my house. I posted it on FACEBOOK and it went viral (25,000 views) including local stations and major networks including CNN. 

My house was ok, but what happened here was that the Harpeth River rose so high, it cut across the close loop and formed a new channel. It was a very chilling moment. The people got out just in time as the water came rushing down, literally like a flash flood. It looked like a smaller version of the Colorado River. They couldn't save anything and three families watched all of their life's possessions and memories be swept away and destroyed when the houses hit a railroad trestle downstream. 

That area is now a park. FEMA paid for the houses, but would not allow any rebuilding.

I was stranded on an island for three days. On day two, the water supply was contaminated and on day three the power went out. One ill person on oxygen  was put in an RV that was kept running so he would have power and one lady was expecting any day. We did have a Doctor and some nurses on our island.

[Binbin98]

At the time this happened I was 11 years old, and I was in new york city so I only watched the horrors of this event from abroad. However, I was not entirely safe, as me and my grandma were in Times square the night the 2010 car bomb was supposed to go off, which occurred within the same weekend. Had it gone off, I would not be a member of this forum now possibly.

 

So basically this weekend 8 years ago for me was a close one lol

[smeagolsfree]

For some reason you came across as a guy in his late 60's early 70's. Not sure if that is good or bad. LOL

[Buildtall]

I flew to Chicago that morning and caught a train across country to Seattle the next day. There was almost no news of any sort on the train for the two day ride. When I arrived in Seattle there wasn’t really any coverage of the flood as there was something else that had happened and it seemed to be all that was on the news there. When I finally arrived home all the water was gone but I got a good picture of how it was from all my co-workers. I’ve always been fascinated with floods and extreme weather and ended up missing the big one.

[MLBrumby]

Yep!! The media coverage of the Nashville floods was scant... and shamefully so, as it did not support the political dialogue. Remember, we're a "red" state, and national media doesn't think we matter much. 

[e-dub]

I think it had to do more with the fact that there wasn't any salacious material to cover.

[Neigeville2]

I think it had more to do with not being on the coast.  All the national news folks tend to ignore "flyover country".

[BnaBreaker]

Ugh... what a terrible night for Nashville.  First, the transit referendum fails miserably, and then the Predators give up a horrendous seven goals in two periods to give up game 3. 

[e-dub]

And for me, personally, Shure has announced they're discontinuing all Shure Phono products as of this summer. They're the only cartridges and stylii I've used for the past 20 years. This day has been a bloodbath, lol.

[markhollin]

Turner Construction's Nashville Industry Report for March just came on line. Things continue to look very good thru 2018.  

https://cdn.baseplatform.io/files/base/scomm/nvp/document/2018/05/Turner_Nashville_Market_Report_March_2018.5ae9f2ca92672.pdf

Some highlights:
 

[timmay143]

20 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

Ugh... what a terrible night for Nashville.  First, the transit referendum fails miserably, and then the Predators give up a horrendous seven goals in two periods to give up game 3. 

Yup, last night,  like all opposing goalies, sucked...

Edited May 2, 2018 by timmay143

[TheRaglander]

My question got buried in an active thread so I’m posting here because I’d like to get y’alls thoughts about “tax fatigue” with other possible projects:

 

Just curious... if the transit plan would have passed, how (if at all) would that affect any "massive" tax proposals for the future?  We all know that a new stadium for the Titans is around the corner.  That PSC property... would re-purposing that site require tax dollars of some sort?  Upgrades to Bridgestone arena, MLS stadium, tax incentives to future HQ re-locations, gulch pedestrian bridge... and whatever else I am not thinking of.   What if a MLB team wants to re-locate here?

Don't get me wrong.  I am not arguing "priorities".  I am just curious as to how taxed out this city would be with other big tax projects that may be coming up as well.

[samsonh]

1 hour ago, TheRaglander said:

My question got buried in an active thread so I’m posting here because I’d like to get y’alls thoughts about “tax fatigue” with other possible projects:

 

Just curious... if the transit plan would have passed, how (if at all) would that affect any "massive" tax proposals for the future?  We all know that a new stadium for the Titans is around the corner.  That PSC property... would re-purposing that site require tax dollars of some sort?  Upgrades to Bridgestone arena, MLS stadium, tax incentives to future HQ re-locations, gulch pedestrian bridge... and whatever else I am not thinking of.   What if a MLB team wants to re-locate here?

Don't get me wrong.  I am not arguing "priorities".  I am just curious as to how taxed out this city would be with other big tax projects that may be coming up as well.

You have to look at the funding structures for each project on it's own.  For a recent upgrade to Nissan stadium a tax was added to tickets. The same would work for Bridgestone. The Gulch bridge is TIF. Relocations are often a combination of state and local funds/ money per worker hired/ tax abatements.  The transit plan would not have affected any of these tools. 

 

A new stadium for the Titan's would require substantial investment by team ownership in my opinion. I do not know if current ownership would be willing to do this. Titans may shop the team to other cities when that time comes imo. 

[AronG]

1 hour ago, TheRaglander said:

My question got buried in an active thread so I’m posting here because I’d like to get y’alls thoughts about “tax fatigue” with other possible projects:

 

Just curious... if the transit plan would have passed, how (if at all) would that affect any "massive" tax proposals for the future?  We all know that a new stadium for the Titans is around the corner.  That PSC property... would re-purposing that site require tax dollars of some sort?  Upgrades to Bridgestone arena, MLS stadium, tax incentives to future HQ re-locations, gulch pedestrian bridge... and whatever else I am not thinking of.   What if a MLB team wants to re-locate here?

Don't get me wrong.  I am not arguing "priorities".  I am just curious as to how taxed out this city would be with other big tax projects that may be coming up as well.

Contrary to the rhetoric from some quarters, when accounting for prevalent local taxes (income, property, sales and auto), Nashville's are well towards the bottom end of what most American cities pay, and would have bumped up only slightly if the transit tax had passed (https://www.nashvillechamber.com/blog/2017/even-with-new-transit-surcharge-nashvilles-total-tax-burden-among-the-lowest). If we want better public amenities, we have plenty of room to raise revenue and still be significantly below the median.

That said, most of the items you mentioned aren't that significant relevant to our overall revenue base. The gulch bridge, for example, is a multi-year $18 million project. Our budget for FY2018 is $2.2 billion.

Most corporate relocation packages are handled as TIF financing, which is just an exemption from paying taxes for a period of time. It can be considered a subsidy because the new property doesn't generate taxes until the exemption ends, but other than infrastructure work it doesn't really affect the way tax dollars are spent.

The Titans stadium, now, that one'll be interesting...

 

[TheRaglander]

Definitely clears things up.  Thanks for the responses.  Now, let’s shoot for that 1.6 billion dollar dome Titan Stadium so we can get the final four and the super bowl!  

[Ingram]

17 minutes ago, TheRaglander said:

Definitely clears things up.  Thanks for the responses.  Now, let’s shoot for that 1.6 billion dollar dome Titan Stadium so we can get the final four and the super bowl!  

 

Anyone with basic sense can see it coming. It's coming in the form of an L.A. Rams/Chargers stadium where there will be this( (Nashville Yards + River North) x 20) type of development. That is probably the reason why they did not want the soccer stadium next to the football stadium. They already have a preliminary plan for that area with regards to a new stadium for the football team. The latest they'll wait before asking for a new football stadium is 2035. It will probably be much sooner though.

Edited May 3, 2018 by Ingram

[Jamie Hall]

On 5/1/2018 at 9:09 PM, e-dub said:

I think it had to do more with the fact that there wasn't any salacious material to cover.

It was overshadowed by the Deepwater Horizon explosion in the Gulf that happened on April 20. They spent several days trying to cap the well and stop the spill from totally destroying the Gulf beaches, so it became must-see TV for a while. Any other year, the Nashville flood would've been top news for several days.