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[rookzie]

Thanks, CenterHill.  If indeed the contractor(s) have been unaware of any potential developments crucial and germane to capacity specs (and this is not to say whether it is or is not), then that's yet another telltale "uncovering" (as it were) of planning and engineering disconnection and disengagement among all elements directly at stake.   If this happens to be the case, then It now potentially becomes one of those instances in which an ensuing change in engineering can result ultimately in increased cost to the taxpayer "down the pipe", without necessarily becoming disclosed (or defined) as an oversight, that is, without a bit of data-mining by the conscientious observant.  I would hope (and perhaps hope is about as far as it goes) that significant infrastructure undertakings would have a more defined and enforced interlocking of decision-making.

Infrastructure proposals tend to be "stateless" ─ that is, by the time they are released to the public, they have become static.  They constantly need to be revised to remain amenable to change, at least to an extent, capacity requirements not yet readily projected, particularly with respect to buried utilities (if this hopefully makes some kind of sense).  Even the planning of the connector itself leaves me questioning the decision to proceed with the build, with its current limited extent in scope.  I expect it to fill up soon anyway upon opening, and to rachet into yet another succession of amber- and red-lights.  I embrace the concept of the connector, nevertheless.

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Smeags, I've gotten sort of set in the ways, I guess.  I don't seem to contribute at meetings anyway, once I'm there.  I always have enjoyed the discussions and business at the table though.  You mean you didn't see me at the meeting before last?

 

6 hours ago, CenterHill said:

On 2/25/2016 at 2:21 PM, wreynol4 said:

[with apologies to wreynol4, this is not a reply to his post, but my ipad won't let me remove it and type a "clean" reply]    

Actually a reply to markhollin's post to say good work on the Division connector photos.   Nice of the foreman to let you walk through the construction site.    If the crew was not aware of the potential Crescendo development, I'm sure they're equally unaware of the Preston proposal this week.     8" lines are not going to cut it there either.    With SoBro booming in every direction, why would Metro not build in water and sewer infrastructure with an eye toward future growth?  

 

 

8 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Why have you been MIA at the meets Ricky? You are missed my friend.

 

[titanhog]

So...the bridge over the tracks now has a big curve in it because of TN Brew Works not selling...correct?  Not saying I blame them...but just shows how the city maybe could have planned this whole thing better and bought up the land a lot earlier.

[smeagolsfree]

Ricky, you always contribute and we do miss seeing you......

[ruraljuror]

49 minutes ago, titanhog said:

So...the bridge over the tracks now has a big curve in it because of TN Brew Works not selling...correct?  Not saying I blame them...but just shows how the city maybe could have planned this whole thing better and bought up the land a lot earlier.

 

Good points.  That said, I kind of like the curve.  Adds some flavor.  

[titanhog]

27 minutes ago, ruraljuror said:

 

Good points.  That said, I kind of like the curve.  Adds some flavor.  

Guess it will slow people down heading from SoBro towards the 8th Ave light in the Gulch.  That light will probably come up on you pretty quickly.

[CenterHill]

5 hours ago, titanhog said:

So...the bridge over the tracks now has a big curve in it because of TN Brew Works not selling...correct?  Not saying I blame them...but just shows how the city maybe could have planned this whole thing better and bought up the land a lot earlier.

Timing is everything, right?    TN Brew Works bought a nondescript warehouse in a neglected corner of SoBro (I refuse to say "Pie Town") and invested a substantial sum in improvements before, or just as, Metro's plans came together for the connector.   Early versions of the connector path had it going right through TBW's building.     I don't know what discussions were had about buying them out but it must have been cheaper to buy adjacent land and re-route the connector.    

[titanhog]

2 minutes ago, CenterHill said:

Timing is everything, right?    TN Brew Works bought a nondescript warehouse in a neglected corner of SoBro (I refuse to say "Pie Town") and invested a substantial sum in improvements before, or just as, Metro's plans came together for the connector.   Early versions of the connector path had it going right through TBW's building.     I don't know what discussions were had about buying them out but it must have been cheaper to buy adjacent land and re-route the connector.    

Kinda a no-lose situation for a business if they can find out early enough where a new major route will go.  Then...buy land in the ROW and you'll either sell it for more money or have your business right on the edge of a new busy strip.

[donNdonelson2]

This photo is not construction related, just one of my favorite historic buildings in town. The Downtown Presbyterian Church is a beauty, both inside and out! If you've never been inside, it's well worth a visit.

[titanhog]

Looking more and more like big city lights all the time.

 

[Pyramid Scheme]

5 hours ago, donNdonelson2 said:

This photo is not construction related, just one of my favorite historic buildings in town. The Downtown Presbyterian Church is a beauty, both inside and out! If you've never been inside, it's well worth a visit.

I want to go there and attend a service some day.

[smeagolsfree]

13 hours ago, titanhog said:

So...the bridge over the tracks now has a big curve in it because of TN Brew Works not selling...correct?  Not saying I blame them...but just shows how the city maybe could have planned this whole thing better and bought up the land a lot earlier.

This is without looking at the map, but I think the reason for the curve is because Division and Ash are at differing angles and the curve is to connect them. I am not sure, but I think that end of Ash will cease to be called Ash and just be Division. I think Metro was trying to keep from buying the fewest number of buildings as well.

[smeagolsfree]

After looking at the map, I stand corrected, but if Metro wanted TN Brew works they would have taken it even if they refused to sale. Who knows what the powers that be are thinking when decisions are made

[Nashville Cliff]

17 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

After looking at the map, I stand corrected, but if Metro wanted TN Brew works they would have taken it even if they refused to sale. Who knows what the powers that be are thinking when decisions are made

Just to clarify, because a lot of people don't understand this about eminent domain, when a city takes a property by condemnation (eminent domain), they still have to pay for it, and are supposed to pay a fair price.  And as we know from some SoBro examples, if they fail to pay a fair price, a court just may make them pay more.

[markhollin]

Progress on 222 Second Ave. (Hines/Hayes Tower):

Looking northwest from entrance of Ascend Amphitheater near corner of First and Molloy.

 

Looking south from corner of Demonbreun and First.

 

Looking west from corner of Demonbreun and First.  The three story brick building is where Qualifacts and Southern Rentals is located, and the rest of the block is being built around it.  Personally, I think it is a butt-ugly structure and wish it would've been purchased and taken out.  

 

Looking east from Demonbreun and the eastern side of the Qualifacts building.

 

Looking southeast from corner Demonbreun and eastern edge of Qualifacts building.

 

Looking north along First Avenue at corner of Korean Veterans Blvd. 

 

Looking east from corner of Molloy and Second Avenue.

Edited April 4, 2016 by markhollin

[Vrtigo]

On 4/3/2016 at 7:06 AM, markhollin said:

The large warehouse on the left is part of the 4-acre property for the proposed 4-tower project by Smithfield Enterprises. 

It paints a completely different picture of the area when you consider how close that four tower Smithfield project is to the rest of the Gulch. All of the aerial photos we have discussed show the view as a straight shot through the So(So)Bro wasteland, but it seems much more congruent with the ever-expanding Gulch area. A quick camera pivot to the west and I think the Smithfield project would fit right in...

[bhibbs]

[markhollin]

Updates on a couple other downtown projects:

Core drilling at 19-story Cambria Suites site.  Looking southwest from near corner of McGavock and Seventh Ave. The soon-to-be-leveled former home of Nashville Rescue Mission is to the left on the lot that will eventually house the new Embassy Suites and another boutique hotel (both rumored to be in the 15-20-story range each):

The SoBro Diner from corner of Third Avenue South and Demonbreun looking east.  This will eventually be 6-stories tall with an outdoor dining element on the roof:

 

SoBro Diner looking southwest along Demonbreun:

 

SoBro Diner looking south from corner of Third Avenue and Demonbreun. When topped-out it will be the same height as the SoBro Tower condo parking garage that it is butting-up against:

Edited April 5, 2016 by markhollin

[wmaddbb2018]

3 minutes ago, markhollin said:

Updates on a couple other downtown projects:

 

Is SoBro topped out?

[CenterHill]

I'm surprised at how long it's taking the Diner to rise, given the steel frame.    And, btw, based on the I-65 billboard, it looks like he's going to call it just "The Diner".   

[bigeasy]

2 hours ago, CenterHill said:

I'm surprised at how long it's taking the Diner to rise, given the steel frame.    And, btw, based on the I-65 billboard, it looks like he's going to call it just "The Diner".   

Given how creative Nashville is with there names it was either "The Diner","6 Stories", "3rd Ave S Diner", or "24 Hour Diner at 3rd Ave/Demonbreun"  

[donNdonelson2]

Isn't it a bit premature to erect a billboard for a diner that is, at the very least, months away from opening? it's not like tourists will plan another trip to Nashville because they saw a billboard on the interstate when they were here for  that bachelorette party!

[CenterHill]

Does anything this guy does make sense? 

[Vrtigo]

1 hour ago, donNdonelson2 said:

Isn't it a bit premature to erect a billboard for a diner that is, at the very least, months away from opening? it's not like tourists will plan another trip to Nashville because they saw a billboard on the interstate when they were here for  that bachelorette party!

 

48 minutes ago, CenterHill said:

Does anything this guy does make sense? 

Apparently, the most appealing and marketable project on their resume is one barely more than steel-framed literal hole in the ground.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Vrtigo

[volsfanwill]

there is a bilboard on 24 allso, and it says there will be a rooftop oyster bar.

[markhollin]

Progress on the HCA Parallon and Sarah Canon Research Institute headquarters in the Capitol View development:
 

Looking south on 11th Avenue North towards main entrance area.

 

Looking south on 11th Avenue North towards the backside of the complex.

 

Looking south from corner of Jo Johnston Ave. and 11th Avenue North.  Ground is about to be broken on the next phase of Capitol View (a 6 story common residential/retail/parking) to the left of HCA at the NE corner of Charlotte and 11th. Also, core drilling has begun on the new 10-story LifeWay HQ which will be just out of this frame to the right on this same corner.

 

Looking northwestward from the corner of  Charlotte Ave. and 11th Avenue North.  Sweet merciful God in heaven…can we PLEASE get rid of all those wires?!

 

Looking northeastward from corner of 12th Avenue North and Charlotte Ave.

Edited April 6, 2016 by markhollin