Nashville Yards, 15 acres/4 million sq. ft./ $1 billion, Phase I: Grand Hyatt Hotel (25 stories), Phase II: Amazon (26 & 22 stories), Phase III: AEG District (4 K theater, 34 & 35 story apts); Phase IV: Pinnacle Tower (35 stories), Amazon 3 (43)

[BnaBreaker]

1 hour ago, fieldmarshaldj said:

The level of triggering at my even mentioning the word here is pretty self-evident.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anybody even really pressed that topic of conversation until you did bud.  What "triggering" are you referring to, exactly?  

Edited October 24, 2017 by BnaBreaker

[fieldmarshaldj]

1 hour ago, BnaBreaker said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anybody even really pressed that topic of conversation until you did bud.  What "triggering" are you referring to, exactly?  

It's been there, lingering for some time. When the n00b brought it up the other day, it tended to bring it to the surface. Pdt2f expressed it better in his post before yours.

Curiously, as much as I don't like to see "That Cross Building" come down and that it couldn't be worked or augmented into the new project, I'm more concerned about the loss of the adjacent Sullivan Building. The Lifeway Tower hasn't reached that threshold of historic at just 26, but the Sullivan is an Art Deco treasure that is irreplaceable, especially in a city that has demolished virtually every example.

[LA_TN]

6 hours ago, NashvilleObserver said:

Have you heard of someone being triggered by this building? Or are you just trying to start something?

 

9 hours ago, fieldmarshaldj said:

It's no surprise your impressions and mine veer in different directions. Some people get "triggered" seeing any reminders of Christianity displayed prominently and are anxious to see them taken down as swiftly as possible, especially "That Cross building."

Yes, I have heard some people say they did not like seeing a building in Nashville with a cross on it. In fact, I recall a post (I'm think it was here) where one person was offended by it and did not like to go downtown because of it

[samsonh]

6 hours ago, fieldmarshaldj said:

The level of triggering at my even mentioning the word here is pretty self-evident.

Not sure you know what that word means tbh. Of the group I hang out with, 30-45, still have never heard it called that.   Moving on....

6 hours ago, Pdt2f said:

I've only ever heard it called either "the Lifeway Building" or "the Cross Building." For most people who don't know it as the lifeway hq, probably 90% of the people I've been around have called it by some iteration of "the Cross Building." I've lived in and around Nashville for 20 years and I would estimate that my friends and colleagues are probably 60-40 Christian to something other than Christian, 50-50 conservative to liberal, and 90% attended college with most of them graduating. Just to show that I didn't arrive yesterday and spend my only time here in a Baptist church in Triune . 

As far as the discussion about whether there are people who would like to see the Draper building torn down because of the cross: while I have never seen picketers demanding the immediate destruction of it, I have come into much contact in my life (both online and in person) with a certain culture of secularists who cannot hold their glee over the destruction of Christian symbols. I do not make this claim about anyone on this board, I wouldn't dare to presume anything like that considering I don't know any of you personally, but these folks do exist and for instance anyone who has been active in pro-life movements that involve interaction with the public can most likely attest to this. So while I don't think anyone has said that they are opposed to the implosion of the Draper Building because of the cross, I can say with confidence that there are folks out there who are happy it is being destroyed because of the cross. 

All that being said, like others have mentioned I have no moral issues about it being demolished. Yeah it was cool having that building but it's their property to do with as they please, and 1991 doesn't really make it an historical treasure. 

Yes I suppose hypothetically a person could be happy it is gone because of the cross. Just happens that no one on this board knows anyone like that. Must not be a widespread notion then, agreed?

[smeagolsfree]

I have referred to it as the Cross building because I could not remember the real name.

[bigeasy]

Demolishing a building of this size has to be a good sign for the city, right? I would imagine the costs to demolish this are pretty high, so if we have the market to justify doing this, that should be a good thing. Is something like this common across the country? I wouldn't think buildings this large would get demolished very often, even in much larger cities.

[Pdt2f]

2 hours ago, samsonh said:

Not sure you know what that word means tbh. Of the group I hang out with, 30-45, still have never heard it called that.   Moving on....

Yes I suppose hypothetically a person could be happy it is gone because of the cross. Just happens that no one on this board knows anyone like that. Must not be a widespread notion then, agreed?

I agree it's not widespread, but I didn't think that the question was ever about whether a ton of Nashville's population wanted it destroyed because of the cross. If I'm not mistaken, @fieldmarshaldj's original comment stated that he had the impression that some want to see it torn down because of the cross. Which is an impression I agree with, considering the behavior fits with a pattern that I have seen with some I've interacted with.

[Pyramid Scheme]

You never know someone's circumstances which lead to the way they view their surroundings. When I was in the military, some of my colleagues were militantly atheistic to the point where anything you said about faith would get you instantly in a heated argument, just because they resented any sort of belief in God. That caused me to feel for a while like I was some kind of weirdo just because of my beliefs, and paranoid that outward signs like that huge cross would get people all butt-hurt. Obviously people like that are the exception and not the rule, or so I've come to think in the past decade since then. 

[MLBrumby]

Probably time to take the subtopic of religion (in architecture) to the cafe. 

[dmillsphoto]

What MLBrumby said...

[markhollin]

I'm not sure if we have seen this rendering before.  On one of the construction fences around the demo site:

 

[tragenvol]

Dynomite!

[MidTenn1]

I had to go ahead and make a card. The developers have their schedule, I have mine....

[titanhog]

^^I have been hoping we'd get a Dyno Technology!!  I'm so excited! 

[MidTenn1]

A couple more renderings from the original package indicates it would be 10 stories tall with the base below the grade of the Church Street Viaduct.

 

Slow week.....only plans to build an 18 story hotel revealed and a hint of a 10 story office building.....

[wmaddbb2018]

1 hour ago, titanhog said:

^^I have been hoping we'd get a Dyno Technology!!  I'm so excited! 

My friends who are dinosaur’s have really been acting funny recently and I figured it had to do with Dyno Technology growing so rapidly. 

[timmay143]

And they said we were lacking on the tech front for Amazon HQ2.  We have it in the bag now.

[markhollin]

Demo continues.

Looking east along Broadway viaduct at former LifeWay Bookstore site:

 

Looking north from Broadway viaduct at warehouse razing:

[volsfanwill]

16 hours ago, markhollin said:

 

 

 

@@rookzie,

what is the date on that stone retaining wall?

[rookzie]

How old it is depends on whether or not you buy me coffee and @UTgrad09 shows up (with a box treat, cough-cough) at the upcoming meeting ─ that is, if I ever decide to muster......(ツ)
 

It likely was erected between 1898 and 1900.  I actually would see that wall myself, when the old Nashville Chattanooga & St. Louis freight statio n was still intact before the L&N (with which the NC&St.L merged in 1957) sold the air rights to the publishing company and razed most (but not all) of the freight depot.   That corner was wide open-air then.

Edited November 3, 2017 by rookzie

[bnacincy]

That gray colored paneling on that hotel behind the demo is downright ugly.

Why anybody uses that color is beyond me. Because of it, the Children's Hospital at Vandy  looks like a prison and the Cumberland bldg. on Church looks no better.

Depressing.

[Vrtigo]

On 11/2/2017 at 5:05 PM, bnacincy said:

That gray colored paneling on that hotel behind the demo is downright ugly.

Why anybody uses that color is beyond me. Because of it, the Children's Hospital at Vandy  looks like a prison and the Cumberland bldg. on Church looks no better.

Depressing.

Ironically, that's the new paint scheme.

You have to admit, though: it looks much better in person. At the very least, it's still better than the previous color which was Pepto Bismol Pink.

[Nathan_in_DC]

I'm loving the fact that these buildings being built along the viaducts have connections with the sidewalk at the viaduct. It makes the long, rather dreary walk across them a significantly better experience.

[bnacincy]

On 11/4/2017 at 3:01 PM, Vrtigo said:

Ironically, that's the new paint scheme.

You have to admit, though: it looks much better in person. At the very least, it's still better than the previous color which was Pepto Bismol Pink.

If I were the Nashville Yards folks, I would have bought that property and torn down the Hotel in order to put the new hotel there. Then on the property where the new hotel is currently being built, I would put up a space needle with the Flying Saucer (is that still in Union Station?) on top and the Polar Coaster ride built on the frame.

Something fun to have on Broadway.....

[markhollin]

Continuing the razing process down west side of former LifeWay warehouse.

Looking north from Broadway Viaduct: