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[markhollin]

A 180 room hotel of unknown brand is being considered for the .8 acre site at 446 James Robertson Blvd. by a mystery developer. Currently Hughes & Coleman Injury Law owns/occupies the current 2 story 60s-era modernist structure on the site.  The area is zoned for maximum of 80', which could be a 7-8 story structure.  Just across Gay St. from the site is the new TownePlace Suites which has 156 rooms and is 7 stories tall, also on an .8 acre plot.  Kimley Horn is listed on the preliminary document as the land-planner/engineer. 

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/hotel-eyed-for-site-near-municipal-auditorium/article_b03ce242-1742-11ed-93db-dbadbe96c5c6.html
 

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of the frame:

[markhollin]

405 Broadway (5 stories, 30,000 sq. ft. of restaurant/bar space) update: core drilling on site.

Looking south from Broadway, 1/4 block west of 4th Ave:

[PillowTalk4]

Why would 80 feet be the maximum height on James Robertson Pkwy?  Please don't tell me to protect views of the Capital?

[nashville born]

20 minutes ago, PillowTalk4 said:

Why would 80 feet be the maximum height on James Robertson Pkwy?  Please don't tell me to protect views of the Capital?

And to add to the mystery, there's a 200' building just two sites over on the same street...

[downtownresident]

1 hour ago, PillowTalk4 said:

Why would 80 feet be the maximum height on James Robertson Pkwy?  Please don't tell me to protect views of the Capital?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is to protect views of the Capitol. 

[Luvemtall]

47 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is to protect views of the Capitol. 

IMHO , that is a weak and lame excuse. Who really cares if they can see the Capital from a distance? We know the people inside the Capital care less to see past their noses. 

[Bos2Nash]

Views to and from the capital are pretty common in capital cities. Providence, RI is another city I know for a fact has similar guidelines.

These are the parcels that are regulated by the global elevation guideline in relation to the state house. 

The 80' that is specifically mentioned is not a universal figure across the entire subdistrict. It is all relative to height above sea level. So basically the lower the elevation your site is, the taller your building can be. Here is a look at the topography in the area. Each line on the map represents 2 vertical feet of grade.

[smeagolsfree]

2 hours ago, nashville born said:

And to add to the mystery, there's a 200' building just two sites over on the same street...

Those were probably done before this overlay went into place.

[Nashvillain]

1 hour ago, Luvemtall said:

IMHO , that is a weak and lame excuse. Who really cares if they can see the Capital from a distance? We know the people inside the Capital care less to see past their noses. 

It's kind of a handy landmark while you move around the city. It's not uncommon in cities throughout the world to preserve views of a prominent building of social, historic, or political importance. I agree that the people who work there suck, but the building itself is quite nice as far as state capitols go. 

[Luvemtall]

Agree, it’s a good looking building. And looks prominent up on that hill.

[UrbanWes03]

They just need to remove the ring of parking surrounding it! And while they’re at it, better connect it with the Bicentennial Capitol Mall

[MLBrumby]

I think they own at least one of those parking lots at the corner of JRP and Charlotte (possibly another on the other side of that church).  If so, then it's really a lack of foresight if they don't claim that site for a complex for TSU, with structured parking. It'd be perfect for a building under 80' and there's enough area to put in state of art technology for training the next generation of Amazon, Oracle, etc. employees. From that location, they could also put in pedestrian bridge(s), possibly enclosed, across Charlotte to the Williams campus. Seems there should be a lot of money pumped into that location as so many more people now are going "back to school". They might even look into a joint IT (Systems Management, Digital Communications, etc.) program with TTU, another Regents school.  Among the top 15 states in population, Tennessee ranks pretty weakly in that category.  The state should look at what Belmont is doing with their new 3D school and set up a program for TN residents who can't afford the Belmont tuition. 

[nashville born]

4 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

Views to and from the capital are pretty common in capital cities. Providence, RI is another city I know for a fact has similar guidelines.

These are the parcels that are regulated by the global elevation guideline in relation to the state house. 

The 80' that is specifically mentioned is not a universal figure across the entire subdistrict. It is all relative to height above sea level. So basically the lower the elevation your site is, the taller your building can be. Here is a look at the topography in the area. Each line on the map represents 2 vertical feet of grade.

 

Guess my dream of seeing a couple new towers in that area east and northeast of UBS was always a pipedream at best then.  Oh well, keep the party going in ALL other sections of downtown!

[Nashvillain]

1 hour ago, UrbanWes03 said:

They just need to remove the ring of parking surrounding it! And while they’re at it, better connect it with the Bicentennial Capitol Mall

Absolutely. The fact that it's a quasi-fortress is an affront to democracy. But that's another topic

[rolly]

The TN capital building is indeed awesome.  Unlike those in Raleigh and Columbus. 

The OH capital has a nice base but lame height.  Thumbs down.

 

The NC is has an even smaller base and even less height. It's not on a hill and is not impactful on the city.  A real yawner.

Whereas the TN capital is classic and properly dominates, being tall and on an elevation.  A big plus for Nashville.

 

[nashmoney]

Let's not forget about the FL statehouse... And the maximum security prison that sits behind it lol. And why would they put those ugly awnings on the capital windows. My guess to help with blocking the sun and keeping the building cooler. 

Seriously, when I first saw the building, I was wondering why would they put a prison that huge in the middle of downtown Tallahassee. 

FYI... The tall building behind the capital is not a prison, but a state office building. 

Edited August 10, 2022 by nashmoney

[markhollin]

The tiny .09 acre triangular hillside lot at 630  Division St.  is being considered for a structure that would feature 3 residences and a 70 person capacity bar overlooking the CSX tracks to the NE.  No word on how tall it will be, but based on the size of the lot, the best guess is that it will be around 3-4 stories. No renderings yet.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/pie-town-site-eyed-for-mixed-use-building/article_2f03deb0-1765-11ed-92a7-9b3452542f79.html

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in tan at the center of the frame:

[colemangaines]

7 minutes ago, markhollin said:

The tiny .09 acre triangular hillside lot at 630  Division St.  is being considered for a structure that would feature 3 residences and a 70 person capacity bar overlooking the CSX tracks to the NE.  No word on how tall it will be, but based on the size of the lot, the best guess is that it will be around 3-4 stories. No renderings yet.

These 3 residences will be:

1. On top of a bar

2. Next to some rail road tracks

3. Practically under a bridge

I'm a big fan of mixed used development but maybe this one shouldn't have a residential component.

[Bos2Nash]

14 minutes ago, markhollin said:

The tiny .09 acre triangular hillside lot at 630  Division St.  is being considered for a structure that would feature 3 residences and a 70 person capacity bar overlooking the CSX tracks to the NE.  No word on how tall it will be, but based on the size of the lot, the best guess is that it will be around 3-4 stories. No renderings yet.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/pie-town-site-eyed-for-mixed-use-building/article_2f03deb0-1765-11ed-92a7-9b3452542f79.html

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in tan at the center of the frame:

If I had to take a guess at this one. I would say it would be 4 stories above Division Street as well as 1 below Division. 

The residences would be on levels 2-4 and the bar would be on street level and below grade. 

[downtownresident]

10 minutes ago, colemangaines said:

These 3 residences will be:

1. On top of a bar

2. Next to some rail road tracks

3. Practically under a bridge

I'm a big fan of mixed used development but maybe this one shouldn't have a residential component.

The “residences” are almost guaranteed to be STR. 

[Rick Dalton]

Cool spot for a bar though 

[markhollin]

107 4th Ave. North will be the location of a new 6 story stone & brick bar/gift shop/live music venue featuring a roof top deck by TC Restaurant Group. They paid $10.2 million for the  tiny surface lot directly north of Dierks Bentley's Whiskey Row in May. The owners state that 250 jobs will be created with this attraction. Barnett Design will handle the architecture; Ragan Smith Assoc. will oversee engineering.

TCRG also owns downtown’s Jason Aldean's Kitchen + Rooftop Bar, Luke’s 32 Bridge, Tequila Cowboy, Luigi’s City Pizza, Sun Diner, Miranda Lambert’s Casa Rosa, FGL House and Wanna B’s. 

TCRG will go before the Metro Historic Zoning Commission on Aug. 17 to request approval for the design.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/building-with-bars-live-music-planned-for-downtown/article_2f63ed28-18e1-11ed-9c76-930b1602bb4e.html
 

 

[MLBrumby]

Nice!! Would be great to see more of buildings like this filling up those parking lots… like the one in front of the symphony center… with a nice courtyard that frames the schermerhorn. I really got an appreciation for inner plazas that connected via pedestrian streets when I visited Budapest a few years ago. 

[downtownresident]

19 minutes ago, markhollin said:

107 4th Ave. North will be the location of a new 6 story stone & brick bar/gift shop/live music venue featuring a roof top deck by TC Restaurant Group. They paid $10.2 million for the  tiny surface lot directly north of Dierks Bentley's Whiskey Row in May. The owners state that 250 jobs will be created with this attraction. Barnett Design will handle the architecture; Ragan Smith Assoc. will oversee engineering.

TCRG also owns downtown’s Jason Aldean's Kitchen + Rooftop Bar, Luke’s 32 Bridge, Tequila Cowboy, Luigi’s City Pizza, Sun Diner, Miranda Lambert’s Casa Rosa, FGL House and Wanna B’s. 

TCRG will go before the Metro Historic Zoning Commission on Aug. 17 to request approval for the design.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/building-with-bars-live-music-planned-for-downtown/article_2f63ed28-18e1-11ed-9c76-930b1602bb4e.html
 

What great infill! That parking lot always smells awful, will be glad to have a building there instead. 

[smeagolsfree]

More news regarding Downtown and Midtown coming tomorrow. So, keep you bat ears on.