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NCMike1990
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ClearSky has new pics of SouthEnd. https://photos.clearskyimages.com/2019-05-1812-s-blvd-charlotte-nc-hli    

atl2clt
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Former ATLien here. (Also, this is my first post on UP after lurking for more than a year).  I lived in Atlanta my entire life. I spent the past 3 years living in both Midtown and along the Beltl

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In reading social media comments, this is what people want: -transit friendly with ample parking  -walkable neighborhoods but no height, no density, and definitely no more apartments  -

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6 minutes ago, kermit said:

If you take it I'll open a tab for you at Wooden Robot.

Hopefully the references I'm going to put down will get me a look. Not sure how to prove that I'm the man for the job lol, but I'll figure it out.

 

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31 minutes ago, Ryan20 said:

Does anyone know what the development will be? The application was approved but there are no details about what will be built on the property? zoning ID 2016-012

 

http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/planning/Rezoning/RezoningPetitions/2016Petitions/Pages/2016-012.aspx

I heard these buildings were being adaptively re-used for co-working space and retail. I however cannot find where I heard that. 

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55 minutes ago, Ryan20 said:

Does anyone know what the development will be? The application was approved but there are no details about what will be built on the property? zoning ID 2016-012

 

http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/planning/Rezoning/RezoningPetitions/2016Petitions/Pages/2016-012.aspx

I am pretty sure the RBA group is taking these over and renovating them for their new offices. 

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It hurts me to post this because its evident South End isnt done with its path towards misery but here it is. Let's hope the Lenny Boy apartments blow this one out of the water. I hate Pollack Shores.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/development/article62650937.html?utm_content=buffer66293&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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If there's a name synonymous with value engineered crap, it's them. I've already written this off. On a positive note, Camden Gallery has seen twice the traffic and leasing velocity of any other new delivery, so while it's probably still unlikely, there's a small chance it could spur other new projects to include retail and actually do something outside of the beige brick EIFS turds we've been getting.  

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16 minutes ago, Prodev said:

If there's a name synonymous with value engineered crap, it's them. I've already written this off. On a positive note, Camden Gallery has seen twice the traffic and leasing velocity of any other new delivery, so while it's probably still unlikely, there's a small chance it could spur other new projects to include retail and actually do something outside of the beige brick EIFS turds we've been getting.  

Yeah Pollack Shores does nothing but garbage. This is a dead project to me as well. As far as Gallery is concerned, it's really amazing. The entire complex is amazing inside and out. 

 

Hopefully developers see the positive reaction here and realize retail and design are more worthwhile and wanted amenities than a dog washing station. 

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I don't want to overstate this and argue Southend is "too far gone", because I don't think that's true, but I do wonder if Southend has developed too heavily, in a poor way.

So many superblocks loaded with dead walls and parking garages.  Bounded by heavy traffic corridors that present serious challenges from a pedestrian level.  5 years ago I had super high hopes for Southend (and I still do), but I wonder if it developed too much, too crappily and too quickly to become the truly urban locale we hoped for.

 

Maybe Elizabeth avenue will become what I had hoped Southend would.  It's got damn good bones and lots of room for development.  I just hope it learns lessons from Southend.

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2 hours ago, ah59396 said:

Maybe Elizabeth avenue will become what I had hoped Southend would.  It's got damn good bones and lots of room for development.  I just hope it learns lessons from Southend.

I mean, the irony is that South End will still arguably have better bones and amenities/services than the communities that have been built in the last many decades. However, South End will likely end up also being the dumping ground for "lessons learned," to the benefit of existing transit-oriented communities (Elizabeth, N Davidson corridor, the West side) who are taking notes as we speak.

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This is a multi-phase project. There are more phases that include retail, since this is the ohase closest to south Tryon I'm okay with no retail, it includes 1000 sq feet of flex that can be turned into retail.

I think adding rooftops on Tremont is important. As far as this building looking cheap, crappy, etc, It's a pretty bad rendering, and I'm leaving my judgment until I can see it in person. I like that there are multiple different scales, and its broken up horizontally. It's not like some of the projects that are a full block of the exact same facade and roofline. It also has parking deck loaded on the back, instead of podium. Overall it's a C+ project from what I can tell, but there are some neat warehouses left on that block, Carolina foundry across the street is hoping to become a brewery and market. There is also two more phases one of which is closer to Tremont, which is more important to me. 

Wish they would have separated this into 6 smaller blocks/phases, and just once I'd like for someone to attempt to create a "row house look" but with apartments. That would break up a massive block so much better. Variety

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33 minutes ago, southslider said:

^Ever. The target demographic of the numerous new apartments largely doesn't shop brick-and-mortar retail.

YET - 100%. Design Center is in the process of converting a lot of their office space into retail, including the corner of Tremont and Hawkins. With the rest of the plans they have for their project, its a matter of when and not if. I will take pleasure in going back and quoting your matter of fact post once those announcement start becoming public and retailers start getting named. With that said, I don't disagree with your previous post in that not all projects are suited for retail. I think mine and Jayvee's comments were more directed at their general design and not whether or not they have retail. If I was the developer of this, I wouldn't have retail either. 

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Crane erection at Solis Southline. The photo does not convey what a scene this was. They had to close South bound South blvd for this to happen -- big mess for cars (but the rail trail was awesome). I believe the crane on the left was only used for the parking deck assembly. #Craneporn

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