NC Civil Rights

[grodney]

7 minutes ago, ES Charlotte said:

So technically this is not stated in the bill. BUT striking down local governments ability to change law does in affect enact federal law that does.. Which bodes the question... If there's such an uproar over NC, where is the backlash on the federal government?

You mean why aren't people complaining that sexual orientation and gender identity aren't protected at the federal level?  Well, I am.  And I'm sure others are.  But that's a huge deal to get changed.  It can start at the local level.  Charlotte tried.  Many other cities in the U.S. have already added those protections.

The "uproar" in NC is that the legislature took a willful step to remove a protection.  No such thing has happened the federal level.  No, those protections don't exist, but they weren't willfully removed.  Plus the additional uproar over the other things thrown into HB2.

[grodney]

Also, regarding the NC uproar....hb2 limits the use of facilities by birth certificate gender. There are several problems with this.

[DMann]

More P.C.B.S. Mayor Pat?

http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2016/07/27/after-freezing-jobs-expansion-in-n-c-over-hb2.html?ana=e_du_pub&s=article_du&ed=2016-07-27&u=29255727384dcbbf2d16fa7a8b7ea4&t=1469649206&j=75218242

 

 

[grodney]

6 minutes ago, DMann said:

More P.C.B.S. Mayor Pat?

http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2016/07/27/after-freezing-jobs-expansion-in-n-c-over-hb2.html?ana=e_du_pub&s=article_du&ed=2016-07-27&u=29255727384dcbbf2d16fa7a8b7ea4&t=1469649206&j=75218242

 

 

That company is from Germany. Ever hear of Hitler?  Hypocrites.

[CLTProductions]

8 minutes ago, grodney said:

That company is from Germany. Ever hear of Hitler?  Hypocrites.

LOL

[CLT704]

1 hour ago, grodney said:

That company is from Germany. Ever hear of Hitler?  Hypocrites.

Took me a minute there, but good one!

[Dale]

1 hour ago, grodney said:

That company is from Germany. Ever hear of Hitler?  Hypocrites.

Speaking of hypocrisy, check out the roster of the corporations and celebs who are boycotting NC due to HB2.

[grodney]

10 minutes ago, Dale said:

Speaking of hypocrisy, check out the roster of the corporations and celebs who are boycotting NC due to HB2.

There it is!

[caterpillar2]

16 hours ago, grodney said:

 

 

I read yesterday that Philadelphia has the same restrooms as Charlotte and there was a LGBT modification at the convention for the convention's eyes to see. but otherwise, the same. Is that true? 

[grodney]

Oh my holy facepalm, not civil rights related, per se, but good ol' NCGOP:

 

[RaleighHeelsfan]

Nope, no problem with that at all!

 

On ‎7‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 3:59 PM, grodney said:

Also, regarding the NC uproar....hb2 limits the use of facilities by birth certificate gender. There are several problems with this.

 

[kermit]

1 hour ago, grodney said:

Oh my holy facepalm, not civil rights related, per se, but good ol' NCGOP:

 

Yea, that statement by our representatives was so reflexively mean-sprited that my jaw dropped.  Their criticize-first mentality is quite telling of their mind-set.

[grodney]

1 hour ago, RaleighHeelsfan said:

Nope, no problem with that at all!

 

Okay sweet, I'll send this birth-certificate-female into the locker or bathroom with your wife/daughter or woman/girl you care about (assuming there are any). (Or with you, if you're a female.)  "No problem with that at all!".  

 

 

 

[urbanlover568]

5 hours ago, RaleighHeelsfan said:

Nope, no problem with that at all!

 

 

Another boneafied "i got mine" GOP statement. 

[CLTProductions]

Cleveland cancelled their Pride parade citing "changing social climate" really hope that doesn't happen here. And Cleveland is a pretty darn blue city.

[urbanlover568]

2 minutes ago, Jayvee said:

Cleveland cancelled their Pride parade citing "changing social climate" really hope that doesn't happen here. And Cleveland is a pretty darn blue city.

I can assure you Roberts won't let that happen. Now THAT will be the ultimate straw to break the camels back. 

[CLTProductions]

Just now, mpretori said:

I can assure you Roberts won't let that happen. Now THAT will be the ultimate straw to break the camels back. 

True, good point. Also, Cleveland's didn't have the backing of companies the size of Wells & BofA

[cltbwimob]

6 hours ago, grodney said:

Oh my holy facepalm, not civil rights related, per se, but good ol' NCGOP:

 

I saw that too, and the first thing that came to my mind was "NCGOP...Ass Clowns committing Ass 'Clownery'"

What a bunch of buffoons.

[grodney]

Oh Pat, oh NC Leg......I think you all might get grounded over this one:

http://chapelboro.com/featured/4th-circuit-court-of-appeals-strikes-down-north-carolina-voter-id-law

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4th Circuit Court of Appeals Strikes Down North Carolina Voter ID Law

 

We can only conclude that the North Carolina General Assembly enacted the challenged provisions of the law with discriminatory intent.

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This is huge, I think.  It not only strikes down the Voter ID portion, but also other changes they made (early voting, same-day registration etc.) to disenfranchise voters who tend to vote democrat.

I mean they said "intent".  It's one thing to say "racially discriminatory effect", but "intent"?  Ouch.

[urbanlover568]

1 hour ago, grodney said:

Oh Pat, oh NC Leg......I think you all might get grounded over this one:

http://chapelboro.com/featured/4th-circuit-court-of-appeals-strikes-down-north-carolina-voter-id-law

"

4th Circuit Court of Appeals Strikes Down North Carolina Voter ID Law

 

We can only conclude that the North Carolina General Assembly enacted the challenged provisions of the law with discriminatory intent.

"

This is huge, I think.  It not only strikes down the Voter ID portion, but also other changes they made (early voting, same-day registration etc.) to disenfranchise voters who tend to vote democrat.

I mean they said "intent".  It's one thing to say "racially discriminatory effect", but "intent"?  Ouch.

Now remember yall!!

 

Go out and vote in November! 

[tozmervo]

Oof, the ruling is much more damning that I was expecting. Based on what I'm seeing shared online, I'm a little surprised this wasn't struck down before hitting the circuit court. 

Edit: upon further reading, apparently the circuit court was just as surprised. they basically call out the lower court for "missing the forest for the trees." 

[RiverwoodCLT]

I hope HB2 goes the same way as the Voter ID law.   I have been voting for 58 years   12 years in Texas and 46 years in North Carolina,  and never have I had to show an ID. 

[RiverwoodCLT]

[kermit]

 

[RiverwoodCLT]

1 hour ago, kermit said:

 

 McCrory  sign  a bill HB2  that was passed in one day, but  counsel cannot tell you what is the problem.  I guess you known deep down that counsel knew that the  gov.   was  wrong, it is best not to say anything.