Nashville Yards, 15 acres/4 million sq. ft./ $1 billion, Phase I: Grand Hyatt Hotel (25 stories), Phase II: Amazon (26 & 22 stories), Phase III: AEG District (4 K theater, 34 & 35 story apts); Phase IV: Pinnacle Tower (35 stories), Amazon 3 (43)

[MidTenn1]

My math....based on elevations from Google Earth......and the fact that the article said it will rise above the AT&T spires. (At one foot higher)

My $0.02.

[titanhog]

2 minutes ago, PHofKS said:

My math....based on elevations from Google Earth......and the fact that the article said it will rise above the AT&T spires. (At one foot higher)

My $0.02.

That would make sense if it's 40 stories at the typical 15' per floor office structure.  About 600'.

[smeagolsfree]

Why in the dickens cant they just put a nice crown on one of these buildings to get us over AT and T. I think there is a conspiracy. 

[KJHburg]

Here is the Colliers leasing agent flyer for the 40 story tower.  It is pdf you can download.  

It shows a 40 story 1 M sq ft tower on Parcel 3B 

https://www2.colliers.com/en/Properties/nashville-yards/USA-1001-church-street-nashville-tn-37203/USA1038455

[LA_TN]

1 hour ago, PHofKS said:

My math....based on elevations from Google Earth......and the fact that the article said it will rise above the AT&T spires. (At one foot higher)

My $0.02.

Ground elevation is listed as 486' 7" which is Church St / Upper 10th Ave

[e-dub]

There's "Regional Transit Rail" on the map in the documentation that @KJHburg shared. That's just mean, dudes.

[Salbato]

[LA_TN]

[chriss752]

If you look at this closely, the right side edge seems to be slightly angled. The same goes for the ground floor level. Not saying it will be as radical, but the slightly angled edges mimic One Hundred in St. Louis slightly. The terraces are a nice touch.

Edited March 5, 2019 by chriss752

[titanhog]

So...do you guys think they're showing this because there's a big fish on the hook...or are they showing this in hopes of hooking a big fish?

[KJHburg]

14 minutes ago, titanhog said:

So...do you guys think they're showing this because there's a big fish on the hook...or are they showing this in hopes of hooking a big fish?

the latter.  I am sure they waiting to see how Amazon takes down their space and see if they grow bigger in Nashville.   No one is going to build a 1 M sq ft spec office tower.  This is to show to prospects and hopefully hook a tenant either Amazon or someone else who can prelease a chunk of space.  

[UTgrad09]

3 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

TSU's Avon Williams campus needs a major expansion with a curriculum to cater to tech!! 

 

3 hours ago, Mr_Bond said:

That would be the perfect complement to the new commercial, residential and retail announcements along 10th Ave S.  They could get the new tech players in town to help pay for it.

Better yet, move the campus across Charlotte where the state lots are, and build a parking garage and a nice, new, state of the art campus. And help pay for it by selling off the old campus. That area will be a great pivot between Nashville Yards and Capitol View.

[wmaddbb2018]

It’s amazing how the Hyatt seemed pretty large and now, assuming all other buildings come together, it’s somewhat of a afterthought in a way.

[titanhog]

I'm hoping Oracle will look at this and say, "Hmmm...we can be in a 40 story building next to Amazon's 20 story buildings."  And then Amazon says, "No way are we going to allow this"...and then they build a 60 story building.  Etc.  Etc.  Etc. 

[wmaddbb2018]

1 hour ago, chriss752 said:

If you look at this closely, the right side edge seems to be slightly angled. The same goes for the ground floor level. Not saying it will be as radical, but the slightly angled edges mimic One Hundred in St. Louis slightly. The terraces are a nice touch.

Can we at least get some LED lights on this? 

[TheRaglander]

This is what I think when I keep seeing these new proposals.   Short, similar buildings with nothing exciting on top.  

[UTgrad09]

32 minutes ago, wreynol4 said:

Can we at least get some LED lights on this? 

I think even subtle ones like on the Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas would be a nice touch.

[markhollin]

Amazon site update.

Looking east along Church Street Viaduct where it crosses over CSX tracks (1/2 block west of 10th Ave. North):

Looking north from Church Street Viaduct where it crosses over CSX tracks (1/2 block west of 10th Ave. North):

[MidTenn1]

11 hours ago, LA_TN said:

Ground elevation is listed as 486' 7" which is Church St / Upper 10th Ave

My estimate was based on the 10th Avenue elevation which Google Earth gave as approximately 456', within a foot or two of what this diagram shows. I think the building height should be measured from the ground floor regardless of how high up the entrance is.

[Craiger]

I can’t find it now, but I was thinking someone mentioned this building across from Amazon already starting. Do they need approval from the city to go to 40 stories instead of their original plan? 

[smeagolsfree]

They have already pulled a foundation permit, so they will have to go back in front of Planning and get a height approval. This will fall under the downtown code but I dont think it falls with in the CBD zoning. Certain areas are unlimited, but I dont think it goes to the Gulch from downtown.

 

Just wait guys, this entire plan will change again, and again, and again...

I did talk with Mark yesterday afternoon and expressed that yesterday was another wild and crazy day in the history of Nashville. I am sort of with him in regards to the apartment towers. We may se an increase in those as well now as the scope of the Nashville Yards project has morphed into something a lot more than any of us could have envisioned when it was first announced and for that matter the speed in which things have advanced.

[nashwatcher]

17 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

They have already pulled a foundation permit, so they will have to go back in front of Planning and get a height approval. This will fall under the downtown code but I dont think it falls with in the CBD zoning. Certain areas are unlimited, but I dont think it goes to the Gulch from downtown.

 

Just wait guys, this entire plan will change again, and again, and again...

I did talk with Mark yesterday afternoon and expressed that yesterday was another wild and crazy day in the history of Nashville. I am sort of with him in regards to the apartment towers. We may se an increase in those as well now as the scope of the Nashville Yards project has morphed into something a lot more than any of us could have envisioned when it was first announced and for that matter the speed in which things have advanced.

Think there will be many condo towers as well? Would be nice to have a larger supply downtown...

[CandyAisles]

14 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Why in the dickens cant they just put a nice crown on one of these buildings to get us over AT and T. I think there is a conspiracy. 

Contemporary building code creates greater cost with a building that is above 420'-0" (requires higher strength concrete and some elevator upgrades).  If you're building above 420'-0", you tend to spend the money that would go on a "crown" on the building itself.  Furthermore, I think crown pieces are a bit out of fashion as developers have re-evaluated their usefulness.  Look at the tallest structures built recently in New York.  Most of those don't have ornate tops.

[Craiger]

44 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

They have already pulled a foundation permit, so they will have to go back in front of Planning and get a height approval. This will fall under the downtown code but I dont think it falls with in the CBD zoning. Certain areas are unlimited, but I dont think it goes to the Gulch from downtown.

 

Just wait guys, this entire plan will change again, and again, and again...

I did talk with Mark yesterday afternoon and expressed that yesterday was another wild and crazy day in the history of Nashville. I am sort of with him in regards to the apartment towers. We may se an increase in those as well now as the scope of the Nashville Yards project has morphed into something a lot more than any of us could have envisioned when it was first announced and for that matter the speed in which things have advanced.

Thanks. I guess my ultimate point was, they have to actually settle on a plan at some point and put a building on the ground. They can just keep revising and by 2045 have a 1k ft tower planned. 

[smeagolsfree]

Let me start off by saying I have the utmost respect for you and your firm and these comment are not directed at you in a personal manner.

Even a taper like the Duke energy tower has in Charlotte or cutting edge architecture that Austin is getting is better than the majority of the stuff we are getting here. You as and architect should understand something is wrong when the we are getting hardly anything but glass boxes with little imagination.

Buildings are still being built with nice crowns and caps and you cant deny that. Its just that we have a few firms here that will eventually lose out to Chicago firms unless they up their game at some point. Hastings, ESa and GSP are all capable of doing the work and need to do a better job at convincing their clients of what the need rather than what they want. Its called upselling. The square foot price of office space here is almost to the point that you can build what want. I do know the price of building goes up considerably once you get over a certain height and we are cursed here because we have so much available land, but why are they doing these projects in cities such as Austin and Charlotte and not here?. The cost is the same.

I am not trying to step on toes but you do see more and more out of town architecture firms doing work here either due to price, vision  or the prestige of using a world class firm. 

There are still a lot of glass boxes in Austin and Atlanta, but all it takes is one or two really nice cutting edge buildings that stand out.