mintscraft56 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 Since when was a 3 story building a highrise. They gotta stop trying to up their feelings about the low rise buildings by calling them highrise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mintscraft56 Posted December 3, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/norfolk/lawsuit-aiming-to-halt-norfolks-public-housing-redevelopment-dismissed/ Lawsuit got dismissed. Comes as a big relief as The City aims to improve downtown life and atmosphere in the St Puals quadrant. Construction in moving fast in Norfolk again! In the next few months expect cranes up near and in downtown as replacement units start to get built and Gravity 400 finally gets started Edited December 3, 2021 by mintscraft56 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 I drove down Fenchurch earlier today and most of Tidewater Gardens is gone, along with the midrise that sat on the corner of (Fen)church and Brambleton. I could barely tell what was what anymore. I'll try and take some pictures when I head back downtown tomorrow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mintscraft56 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 6 hours ago, BFG said: Its like seeing a dream starting to fabricate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varider Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 I’m excited to finally see progress in SPQ— but these pictures illustrate why I always get so frustrated when people say NFK doesn’t have enough developable land/ room to grow we now literally have acres upon acres to develop in SPQ and honestly there’s still decent room for infill in downtown proper which sort of has town feeling a bit desolate/ in transition now that the SPQ redevelopment is taking shape, it already feels like the city is planning for a glorified housing project filled with low income housing tax credit 2-3 story apartments with very limited retail/ commercial activity. I will wait to pass judgment while we see more proposals and construction ramps up— but for now, I am concerned we will waste this opportunity to really create something dynamic in NFK and until the perception of SPQ changes and can attract market-level investment and diverse populations, it will still be that sketch neighborhood adjacent to downtown with no urbanity or character or uniqueness about it— that land looks ripe for large-scale, mixed-use, development— if only we had the market dynamics to support such projects in SPQ… until then, we’ll keep taking baby steps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdogg Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 12:21 PM, Norf Native said: Anyone know anything about this? This is on the ARB agenda for discussion 6 Dec. Seems this item was mysteriously removed from the ARB agenda. An edited version of the agenda no longer has this on the docket, and thus, it was likely never discussed yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintscraft56 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/4/2021 at 10:21 AM, NFKjeff said: It has been stated many times that the type of development you are wanting in SPQ is precluded due to the nature of the development. The Federal Government granted millions of dollars to the city to pay for planning and demolition. The city agreed to follow guidelines in order to secure those funds. This land, although becoming vacant must be developed in accordance to the guidelines. Thats true but what we hoped for was to actully reach guide line limits. Its seems this is almost a minimum. You and I have seen that the buildings can be up to 5/6 stories too depending on first level parking but to have a bunch of 2 story developments is slightly disappointing given this is a major project made to grow Norfolk back into the shining city it once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBIllini13 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 6 hours ago, mintscraft56 said: Thats true but what we hoped for was to actully reach guide line limits. Its seems this is almost a minimum. You and I have seen that the buildings can be up to 5/6 stories too depending on first level parking but to have a bunch of 2 story developments is slightly disappointing given this is a major project made to grow Norfolk back into the shining city it once was. I want high rises downtown as much as the next person, but the on-site replacement housing calls for affordable housing. Even with lumber price being what they are right now, it is still significantly more expensive to build steel frame buildings than it is wood frame buildings, and you can't really build higher than 5 (maybe 6) stories with wood frame. We will hopefully see taller buildings when more mixed-income and market-rate housing is proposed, but since the focus right now is on replacement housing for public housing residents, the majority of the buildings are going to be low- to midrise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 IIRC, Norfolk designated the plot over near Popeye's and the Catholic Church for business/high-rise development. Right now, they gotta put residents somewhere, so I understand why that's the top priority. And thanks to a recent settlement, there's a better chance of that happening. https://www.pilotonline.com/government/local/vp-nw-st-pauls-settlement-20211206-hcto2nz2pnandaox7swspfzdfu-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdogg Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 hours ago, VBIllini13 said: I want high rises downtown as much as the next person, but the on-site replacement housing calls for affordable housing. Even with lumber price being what they are right now, it is still significantly more expensive to build steel frame buildings than it is wood frame buildings, and you can't really build higher than 5 (maybe 6) stories with wood frame. We will hopefully see taller buildings when more mixed-income and market-rate housing is proposed, but since the focus right now is on replacement housing for public housing residents, the majority of the buildings are going to be low- to midrise. Not to derail the thread (hopefully), but you'd be amazed what they can do with wood nowadays. https://www.cnn.com/style/article/wooden-skyscraper-revolution-timber/index.html 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norf Native Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Site of the former Willis building sold to developer. https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/norfolk/land-sold-for-85-unit-affordable-housing-building-on-church-street-in-norfolk/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkWahoo Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Nice! Basic but far better than what was there. Just gotta keep spreading that walk able urban footprint. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelin14 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 Norfolk City Council voted Tuesday night to add more land to the St. Paul’s area revitalization area. The areas include 645 Church Street (the former location of the Willis Building) at the corner of Church Street and Brambleton Avenue, and a “Future Block 9.” Source: https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/norfolk/norfolk-approves-addition-to-st-pauls-revitalization-project/?fbclid=IwAR0kFePEEBA46umwxFuz-o-DQfUJ3Y0CVQ3q5DFX4iPKM0jqNBDbyIVbXAg 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintscraft56 Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Seems good! Always great to extend downtown's presence across the small area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic_Tern Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 I don't know how anyone can look at those gigantic parking lots and think that's a good usage of space. Norfolk likes to talk a big game when it comes to walkability, but when given a blank slate to build whatever they want, they come up with an incredibly lackluster urban design. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintscraft56 Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Things have not been posted here for a while. Anyone have more news regarding SPQ in Norfolk? ITs been quiet for a good while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeagleAccountant Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, mintscraft56 said: Things have not been posted here for a while. Anyone have more news regarding SPQ in Norfolk? ITs been quiet for a good while. The Bruce Smith project for the lot adjacent to the Scope was approved recently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baobabs727 Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Is Torti Gallas no longer involved with Brinshore and this development? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRVA Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Blocks19 & 20 webcams: https://app.oxblue.com/open/tfjgroup/allcams 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdogg Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 Looks like the land sale for 645 Church Street will be completed this week. Should probably make a thread for this eventually. R-09 First Amendment to Purchase and Development Agreement with TRG Development.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeagleAccountant Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 The ARBs next regular meeting on Sept. 19th will be hyper focused on St Pauls redevelopment. From the agenda it states the following: Continuation of the streetscape and housing design for St. Paul's Area - Tidewater Gardens. As the design of the neighborhood moves east, the housing becomes smaller in scale, and diverse in type as it reaches the Blue Greenway. We will review the design in a block-by-block order, in the following sequence: Blocks 6, 5, 11, 4, 3B, 3A, 2 http://norfolkcityva.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=2074&Inline=True 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdogg Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 WPA will be giving an update on the St. Paul's project before the planning commission tomorrow at 1 pm. Planning commission meetings are typically streamed live so you should be able to tune in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdogg Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 All residents of Tidewater Gardens have moved out, quite the milestone considering the contentious issues that arose. This last part caught my eye though. https://www.pilotonline.com/government/local/vp-nw-tidewater-gardens-relocation-20221028-y2lfql3qynas5mrbxog5e26dfy-story.html "There are no plans to redevelop Young Terrace and Calvert Square, according to the housing authority." Really? Why? I don't see how half -@$$ing this is going to get us where we need to be. They need to redevelop the entire area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeagleAccountant Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 The design for block 6 is scheduled to be presented to the ARB on Nov. 14th. There are a lot more renderings at the provided link: http://norfolkcityva.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=2125&Inline=True 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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