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because unlike you, perhaps, I have other things to do. I am not on here all the time... (my post count is quite modest for 20.5 years), so somehow I missed this guy's unsolicited attack on moi. (as in, i wasn't talking to him, so he came for me, why??) whatever. and also, well, because I can?

https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/norfolk/old-runway-removal-makes-way-for-simpler-route-to-norfolk-international-airport/ An old runway has been demo'd, thus allowing for new 4 way intersection and ORF sign.

These "important" folks of whom you speak have had decades to do this thing. Truth is, a member (or members) of the local glitterati would have built an arena already had they truly wanted to do so, thought it feasible, profitable, etc. I think this gent. has stumbled upon this truth. Hence, the crowdfunding appeal to the unwashed masses, as it were.

Notice the spelling of our great Commonwealth. And I told myself I would not pile on! One thing I can say is that I do think it takes a massive pair (of _____) to go public with one's ignorance...all, I do sincerely hope, in the furtherance of the one, true cause: Dragging VB out of the bush leagues and into the majors. Once and for all.

you waste your money how you see fit; i'll save and invest mine. class dismissed. anywho, I'm geeked about large econ. dev. projects, not necessarily or usually about coffee and donuts from canada or anywhere else. i'll do me while you do nothing.

He is not asking for money. Not yet. Notice the caveats and disclaimers. It was a clumsy rollout, but give the man some Grace for having some intestinal fortitude here.

Ouch!

Not good. Continues the erosion of the large employer base from downtown into surrounding communities. I'm sure pretty soon we'll be hearing about another tower conversion to Apartments lol.jk hmm

He is AI and/or CAD-impaired, to say the least. However, I think many of us would be hard-pressed to pull off a credible arena design. He'd need $$$$ to acquire proposal-specific cost and feasibility analyses. Cleary this man is a novice. The lack of granularity in his proposal, particularly at the nascent stage, is entirely understandable. He will need an attorney to help him navigate the treacherous, SEC-patrolled waters of Crowdfunding.

Ok. Wow. My Dear Friend: To boldly declare this "proposal" to be a "scam"-- and whether you like it or not, by extension and logical inference, the progenitor of this arena "movement," a "scam artist/con man,"-- is, well, a bit harsh. Perhaps more than a bit harsh, actually. It is also potentially defamatory and libelous. Take Heed: Your evidence for casting such an aspersion is quite thin. T. H. I. N. For what it's worth, my well-honed instincts inform me that this gentleman is likely a well-meaning, unsophisticated, rabidly pro-VB/pro-sports average "Joe." He appears to me to be a common man who is simply attempting (albeit clumsily) to make a difference in his community...and in a particularly 2020's kind of way. I, for one, will give the man the benefit of the doubt until such time as y'all (or the media) present actual proof of his nefarious intent.

Who is key and where is he from?

I suppose the proof will be in the pudding. But yes about the rooftop restaurant, and now I'm certain that what I said about the first floor retail losing ceiling height is true. When you drive past, you realize how long this 12 acre parcel stretches down Laskin...and how pathetic the density being built therupon.

Been driving by this thing for months. Kept eyeing the corners and setbacks and height. I swore it was pushed toward the West from Fremac ....and has been looking squatty. Now a new article. New render. No mention of the rooftop restaurant, office has shrunk by maybe 20K sf--and one floor. Apartments APPEAR to be one floor short along Laskin. IDK. Whatever. IF so, they must be making up for it with the back units. Could be that the double-ish floor 1 was made a single story. When you drive by, there appears to be a larger set back from Laskin, too. That might be an optical illusion at this stage of contruction. https://www.pilotonline.com/2025/07/01/mixed-use-development-vb-school/

May was a good month! Let's hope this is a harbinger of good tourism-fueled #'s ahead for Summer.

I agree with you that the story of my life here in HR has been one of super high hopes and expectations...and dashed dreams. HAHA. I mean those hopes and dreams were FOR Hampton Roads! Mainly. And some for myself haha. Anyway, so glad to see that you feel my pain haha. So, VBTC could have been better in several aspects, yes? I mean, for starters, they never landed the corporate whale or two they said they would land. Truly, they thought they would attract at least one Fortune 500 to relocate here. Can you imagine the spinoff effect? WOAH. What a bummer that never materialized, but I tend to think instead about how a several acre plot of land, once replete with pine trees... plus one, lone mid-rise building...a random trailer, a small house or two and a restaurant modeled after a train depot...turned into The Town Center of Virginia Beach--a $750M mix-used development in a secondary or tertiary market that is still growing today--and all in under 25 years.