New Orleans Development Thread

[dan326]

^ I was thinking the same thing.

[richyb83]

Very cool! The smoothened exterior is a nice touch to the original design, which somewhat resembled an ionic breeze air purifier

TRUE!!!!

[dan326]

Well, maybe it's a subtle message saying that it's an environmentally friendly building.

[dimebag1980]

Yep, sorry about that, the image code was updated.

Here is the old design:

Here is the new design:

Ahhhh okay! MUCH better...

I'd seen the old rendering before but forgot what it looked like.

lol @ bluff2085, it DOES resemble an Ionic Breeze!!

[BRPJ]

LMAO! LAST WEEKEND I SAW THE IONIC BREEZE INFOMERCIAL, AND I WAS ROLLING CUZ IT LOOKS LIKE THE ORIGINAL RENDERINGS, I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONYL ONE,lol!

[NCB]

New Orleans cruise industry picking up speed

Sunday's voyage marks return of regularly scheduled service since Katrina

The answer to a big question

[dan326]

Wow, that's neat. Good to hear things are getting back up to speed. I didn't realize the Mississippi River could hold a big ship like that. Could Baton Rouge handle a ship like that? I was just wondering because we're suppossedly the farthest inland deep sea port and I always wondered how big the ships could actually get.

[NCB]

Wow, that's neat. Good to hear things are getting back up to speed. I didn't realize the Mississippi River could hold a big ship like that. Could Baton Rouge handle a ship like that? I was just wondering because we're suppossedly the farthest inland deep sea port and I always wondered how big the ships could actually get.

Baton Rouge could definately handle a cruise ship that large; in terms of water depth, if New Orleans can handle it, then Baton Rouge can handle it. Though there may be to many obstructions across the river past New Orleans that could make getting a ship that high all the way over to Baton Rouge difficult, but who knows.

[Puddinhead]

Baton Rouge could definately handle a cruise ship that large; in terms of water depth, if New Orleans can handle it, then Baton Rouge can handle it. Though there may be to many obstructions across the river past New Orleans that could make getting a ship that high all the way over to Baton Rouge difficult, but who knows.

My understanding has always been that it's less the river's depth than it's width that starts to become problematic as you get as far inland as Baton Rouge. Although the Port of Baton Rouge certainly handles ocean-going vessels such as oil tankers which service the refineries, I don't know enough to comment on cruise ships. I can say that I've read (in treatises explaining why the US doesn't have a choice but TO rebuild the Port and City of New Orleans) that once you get much above New Orleans you start having problems with the river's channel being wide enough for two ocean-going vessels to pass each other and to turn around safely in high river stages, and also that the US-190 bridge is too low for most such vessels to pass. The other problem, of course, that Baton Rouge has as far as the cruise ship industry would be concerned would be the fact that the ships would have to sail some eighty miles past the cruise docks at New Orleans up a winding river channel to get there. Even the distance the ships have to travel down the river from New Orleans is looked at as a drawback.

[dan326]

Thanks for the info guys. I don't think I could ever get on a criuise ship though, after watching The Titanic. That movie has scarred me for life.

[NCB]

My understanding has always been that it's less the river's depth than it's width that starts to become problematic as you get as far inland as Baton Rouge.

In some spots in the river between New Orleans and Baton Rouge, width could definately be seen as a major problem. Though for the most part, I would think that if you can get some of these massive oil tankers all the way over to Baton Rouge, you could get a decent sized cruise ship there. But like you said, it would never happen for a number of reasons, with the fact that it would have to traverse something like 250 miles of river before it even got out into the Gulf being a major one.

[tennis1400]

Im sure you could get a vessel there to Baton rouge, but there is no reason for one. Although the bridges could be a problem during high river stages too.

[nola17]

Woolworth Tower will not go through because of its close proximity to FQ.

[eastover neworleans]

Hi urbanplanet my name is william lewis and im new to this just wanted to start posting news thats going on in neworleans.

i got this from wgno abc26

Luxury hotel proposal advances

BATON ROUGE, LA

[tombarnes]

I wonder if this has anything to do with the Four Seasons which has been rumored to have been under preliminary development for some time now? Keep us posted on developments.

[tennis1400]

Yes it probably is the Four Seasons or St Regis that has been rumored for that location for a while.

[NCB]

I'm very sure that this is the Four Seasons project, which has been under some sort of planning for quite some time now, long before Katrina. This will be a great project for Canal, and is obviously a great spot for a hotel with the Shops at Canal Place, Harrah's Casino, the Aquarium of the Americas, the Riverfront, and the French Quarter within walking distance.

Here is the entire article on the project from the Times Picayune:

Luxury hotel proposal advances

Article

[NCB]

Based off of the information provided by the article, the hotel would be built on this parking lot next to Canal Place and across Canal Street from Harrah's Casino. It would seem like this plot of land would be too small for a ~25 story tower, but with so much planning being put into this project over the years, I'm guessing they've decided that is not the case.

[sgray]

Wow, that's neat. Good to hear things are getting back up to speed. I didn't realize the Mississippi River could hold a big ship like that. Could Baton Rouge handle a ship like that? I was just wondering because we're suppossedly the farthest inland deep sea port and I always wondered how big the ships could actually get.

A cruise ship could get to Baton Rouge but it's too far from the Gulf. About 250 miles. It would take the better part of a days' transit each way.

[Puddinhead]

Based off of the information provided by the article, the hotel would be built on this parking lot next to Canal Place and across Canal Street from Harrah's Casino. It would seem like this plot of land would be too small for a ~25 story tower, but with so much planning being put into this project over the years, I'm guessing they've decided that is not the case.

Have you seen the parcel of land that the much larger Trump Tower is to fit on?

[dan326]

I'm very sure that this is the Four Seasons project, which has been under some sort of planning for quite some time now, long before Katrina.

That great. Not only is New Orleans getting a Trump, but also a Four Seasons ?! That some pretty good stuff. New Orleans must have almost every luxury hotel chain in the U.S. I might have to come over there with my burlap bag and steal a few.

Edited October 24, 2006 by dan326

[NCB]

Have you seen the parcel of land that the much larger Trump Tower is to fit on?

Oh you bet, in fact, I've parked on that lot many times over the years. Honestly, I still don't know how they'll be able to fit the base of a 750+ foot tower on that lot, but, Trump and the Poydras LLC. developers obviously know what they're doing. But you have a point; if you can get a 67 story tower on the Poydras lot between Camp and Magazine, then you can definately get a ~25 story tower on the lot next to Canal Place.

[rolltide35401]

They probably will buid there simply to avoid having to deal with the Quarter. Since this location is outside the Vieux Carre, it does not have to wage war against the Quarter and the 1969 hotel construction/conversion ban. It wasn't too long ago that they were sucessful in derailing the conversion of the old sugar warehouse at 111 Iberville into a hotel, and this was right behind Canal Place.

I hope this gets built

[fla_tiger]

900 St Charles

Photo of the sign at the recently announced 6-story 900 st Charles Avenue condominium project.

The weblink: http://www.900stcharles.com/1024/index.htm

[fla_tiger]

Arts District Condomiums

Photo of project sign at old Jacobs Candy Factory 827 Carondelet

827 Carondelet

New Orleans, LA 70130

Edited October 26, 2006 by fla_tiger