Queensbridge Collective - 1 tower, maybe 2

[gman430]

29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

This is in today’s Observer.  Can someone with a subscription post the article?

This is great news!

Article says the club will be demolished by next month. Other tidbits from same article: 

A Chicago developer is breaking ground this week on a $700 million, skyline-defining project between uptown and South End. Riverside Investment and Development’s project Queensbridge Collective will total close to 2 million square feet. The 42-story apartment tower with 409 units will be completed first, according to the developer.

A 35-story, 600,000 square foot office tower also will be built on the 3-acre site at 1111 S. Tryon St. The project is expected to be complete by mid-2025. There will be 30,000 square feet of retail.

The residential tower will have pickleball and basketball courts on the roof, Riverside said in a news release. It also will have a golf simulator, co-working space, private dining connected to a restaurant and pool on the top floor.

 

Edited May 18, 2023 by gman430

[videtur quam contuor]

 

plus two towers rather than three due to water table, which relates, in reality, to geological bedrock level.

Edited May 18, 2023 by tarhoosier

[DMann]

TIAA would look nice on top of that tower!!!!!

 

[CarolinaDaydreamin]

36 minutes ago, DMann said:

TIAA would look nice on top of that tower!!!!!

 

The TIAA Trust won't have a substantially larger presence in CLT that it currently does. They aren't likely the signature tenant of this tower.  

[Prodev]

3 hours ago, DMann said:

TIAA would look nice on top of that tower!!!!!

 

From the bizjournal -

"As part of TIAA’s planned sale of TIAA Bank, we are retaining the trust business, which will be conducted as an OCC-chartered trust bank," a TIAA spokesperson told CBJ by email. "That business will be headquartered in Charlotte. We do not expect any material change in staffing levels in Charlotte to occur as a result."

[Windsurfer]

On 5/18/2023 at 6:17 AM, tarhoosier said:

 

plus two towers rather than three due to water table, which relates, in reality, to geological bedrock level.

Since three towers have weight distributed among them independently., how does the water table prohibit a third?  Anyway, there sure is a lot of bedrock there, unless they've discovered old gold mine digs.

[videtur quam contuor]

4 hours ago, Windsurfer said:

Since three towers have weight distributed among them independently., how does the water table prohibit a third?  Anyway, there sure is a lot of bedrock there, unless they've discovered old gold mine digs.

 

Someone asked for information from the Observer article about the project. Another person provided some of that article information. I added another sentence from the article about the high water table as the additional information. Apparently the bedrock prohibits the water from seeping lower and thus construction costs and engineering limit the addition of more buildings. The geology of that area is rock. For example when 277 was constructed the excavation required a great deal of blasting.

[Windsurfer]

2 hours ago, tarhoosier said:

 

Someone asked for information from the Observer article about the project. Another person provided some of that article information. I added another sentence from the article about the high water table as the additional information. Apparently the bedrock prohibits the water from seeping lower and thus construction costs and engineering limit the addition of more buildings. The geology of that area is rock. For example when 277 was constructed the excavation required a great deal of blasting.

I'm not completely satisfied with this explanation by the article you quoted.  I have had plenty of geology courses and understand groundwater issues.  I still don't understand what having a sturdy bedrock of granite has to do with groundwater supposedly keeping them from building a third.  One reason Manhattan is able to have so many skyscrapers is because it has a sturdy bedrock of granite too. Talk about groundwater. Manhattan is at sea level.  I think it's something else.  I'd love to interview one of their engineers about this.

[atlrvr]

From now

[DonkeyKong]

Looks like the ground breaking is today.  I just drove by and there was a large tent, balloons, TV, etc.

[KJHburg]

3 hours ago, DonkeyKong said:

Looks like the ground breaking is today.  I just drove by and there was a large tent, balloons, TV, etc.

Yes here you go this one is officially under construction.  No talk of the 2nd phase office tower just on this new 45 story apartment tower and their partner is Woodfield Partners.  Bank lender is 5/3 Bank.  Tony Scacco of Riverside stated they were looking for markets outside of Chicago several  years back.    They wanted growing markets, with good international airports, growing economy, good local government and cooperative local government and a city with transit infrastructure (sorry Nashville) They had dealt of course with Bank of America in Charlotte and really like what they saw here.  He really sang Charlotte's praises since it was announced and talk about local cooperation even from other developers. 

This will be the tallest residential tower south of Philly until you get to south Florida.  Taller than any building in Raleigh or the commonwealth of Virginia for that matter.   45 floor and I think 596 feet tall.  Photos from the site this afternoon.   Yes the silver shovels were out and the champagne.   Consider this one now under construction.  

https://woodfielddevelopment.net/project/queensbridge-collective/   Woodfield is an interesting choice of a high rise apartment tower  partner while they have  tons of mid rise apartments not many high rise tower like this or anywhere near it.  (they do have a new high rise in West Palm)  But they have developed 1000s of apartments in the southeast. 

Edited May 24, 2023 by KJHburg

[go_vertical]

This will be taller than The Vue by just twenty feet.

[Boricua]

Does Atlanta not build high rise residential? 

[gman430]

15 minutes ago, Boricua said:

Does Atlanta not build high rise residential? 

They do. In fact, construction on a 733 foot mixed use building with residential units there called 1072 West Peachtree started a few months ago: https://1072westpeachtree.com

Edited May 24, 2023 by gman430

[KJHburg]

8 minutes ago, gman430 said:

They do. In fact, construction on a 733 foot mixed use building with residential units there called 1072 West Peachtree started a few months ago: https://1072westpeachtree.com

and yes that will be a taller residential tower than anything in Charlotte but right now the Vue is taller than any residential tower in Atlanta.  That building in midtown is being done by Rockerfeller Development of NYC

Photo from CLT Development twitter 

Edited May 24, 2023 by KJHburg

[DJ8hep]

@KJHburg, it was great being there to see them kick this exciting project off!

 

[KJHburg]

It can't be lost that is the new tallest building in Southend and outside the 277 loop that loosely defines uptown Charlotte.  Talk about extending the skyline this building does it.  Just wait to the office tower and Carson at Tryon project across the street gets going.  I mean this area was low slung 2 story cheap motels a decade or so ago. 

[RANYC]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

It can't be lost that is the new tallest building in Southend and outside the 277 loop that loosely defines uptown Charlotte.  Talk about extending the skyline this building does it.  Just wait to the office tower and Carson at Tryon project across the street gets going.  I mean this area was low slung 2 story cheap motels a decade or so ago. 

Please tell me that the Carson at Tryon groundbreaking is imminent.  I can't stand seeing that Enterprise there amidst that sea of surface blacktop.  I also low-key loathe the back of the Broadstone Queen City.   I find it interesting that these towers will now occupy the former site of the Midnight Diner, and the Midnight Diner has now moved to the very core of Uptown across from our basketball arena, and yet it has a grassy lawn in the front and surface parking in the side and rear.

Edited May 25, 2023 by RANYC

[ABCW]

@KJHburg did they say that it would be 596' at the groundbreaking today? Not that I don't believe you but 596' just seems extremely tall for 45 floors of residential. 

[KJHburg]

8 minutes ago, ABCW said:

@KJHburg did they say that it would be 596' at the groundbreaking today? Not that I don't believe you but 596' just seems extremely tall for 45 floors of residential. 

they did not mention the height I got that figure from previously reported stories.  

 

45 minutes ago, RANYC said:

Please tell me that the Carson at Tryon groundbreaking is imminent.  I can't stand seeing that Enterprise there amidst that sea of surface blacktop.  I also low-key loathe the back of the Broadstone Queen City.   I find it interesting that these towers will now occupy the former site of the Midnight Diner, and the Midnight Diner has now moved to the very core of Uptown across from our basketball arena, and yet it has a grassy lawn in the front and surface parking in the side and rear.

stay tuned. 

[ABCW]

On 1/19/2023 at 9:32 AM, atlrvr said:

Separately, here's what probably a lot of people on here wanted to know.  From the approved plans....

@KJHburg Unless something has changed I don't think that the residential is supposed to even break 500'. Everything I've seen/heard thus far has put the height around the upper 400's. I just don't know how the height could jump from 476' to 596' without an increase to the floor count. Of course I hope I am wrong and either way this is still a great development.

[gman430]

Yeah, residential floor plates of high rise buildings are shorter than office floor plates so 476 feet definitely sounds more accurate than 596 feet. Either way, it’s still a beautiful high rise and overall project for Charlotte. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t jealous. Lol. I will try to get some drone shots of the site this weekend also if the rain holds off. 

Edited May 25, 2023 by gman430

[KJHburg]

They increased the residential tower to 45 floors and 476 feet sounds too short for a 45 story building.  Maybe it somewhere in between the heights I dont know.  Maybe there are updating filings. 

[CLT Development]

11 hours ago, ABCW said:

@KJHburg Unless something has changed I don't think that the residential is supposed to even break 500'. Everything I've seen/heard thus far has put the height around the upper 400's. I just don't know how the height could jump from 476' to 596' without an increase to the floor count. Of course I hope I am wrong and either way this is still a great development.

that's the height to the highest occupied floor, the parapet looks to be as high as 50-60 feet, so I'd say 526-536' 

[JorgiPorgi]

It’s also noticeable how some of the heights of the first ten floors are significantly larger than most of the residential. Plus the parapet  There is no way this building is less than 500 feet. I would assume it’s not quite as tall as The Vue, but close.