Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs

[markhollin]

Skyline from I-24/40 split:
 

[TNinVB]

Took this yesterday while taking my mom home. It’s been nice seeing all of the progress in person over the past few weeks. 

[markhollin]

Courtesy of Sid45365:
 

[nashville born]

Ax grind alert.  I feel as if I'm among my people so rant commencing.  This is a sweet photo.  As I was enjoying it yet again, a few things started to stick out.  Full disclosure, I had just finished visiting the Wiki tall buildings page.  Every time I get past the pain of the relative heights listed on that page, I see a photo like this.   Given the proximity of the examples I'll use, I say elevation/schmelevation.  How is there a 100' difference between The Place at 5th & Broad (listed at 433') and 501 Commerce (listed at 331")?  And if you can logically solve that one, go ahead and explain how the Renaissance is  listed at 385'.  For those playing along, that's 54' taller than 501 Commerce, 48' shorter than The Place, and yet looks as tall or taller in this photo than The Place????  Pinnacle is listed at at 417', a full three slots behind Bridgestone at 460', yet looks darn near the same height.   Elevation variances make much more sense as I look all the way to the Broadwest Office Tower (listed at 326') and consider the relative height difference between it and say, Endeavor (listed at 344').  But even with that allowance, there still seems to be just too much height variance.    Reg Z sets forth truth is lending.  We need a Reg TTT for tell the truth in building!   Okay, rant over.  Move along people.  Nothing to see here.

[titanhog]

3 minutes ago, nashville born said:

Ax grind alert.  I feel as if I'm among my people so rant commencing.  This is a sweet photo.  As I was enjoying it yet again, a few things started to stick out.  Full disclosure, I had just finished visiting the Wiki tall buildings page.  Every time I get past the pain of the relative heights listed on that page, I see a photo like this.   Given the proximity of the examples I'll use, I say elevation/schmelevation.  How is there a 100' difference between The Place at 5th & Broad (listed at 433') and 501 Commerce (listed at 331")?  And if you can logically solve that one, go ahead and explain how the Renaissance is  listed at 385'.  For those playing along, that's 54' taller than 501 Commerce, 48' shorter than The Place, and yet looks as tall or taller in this photo than The Place????  Pinnacle is listed at at 417', a full three slots behind Bridgestone at 460', yet looks darn near the same height.   Elevation variances make much more sense as I look all the way to the Broadwest Office Tower (listed at 326') and consider the relative height difference between it and say, Endeavor (listed at 344').  But even with that allowance, there still seems to be just too much height variance.    Reg Z sets forth truth is lending.  We need a Reg TTT for tell the truth in building!   Okay, rant over.  Move along people.  Nothing to see here.

On Bridgestone and Pinnacle…as you can see, Bridgestone is in fact taller.  However…I think we’ve discussed before that Pinnacle seems to be closer to about 430 or so.

 

[nashville born]

Thanks for that.  I understand variations arising from different angles, views, and such.  Yet even your example drives home my point.  Just wish that page had more accurate listings.  Even in the photo you posted, the bane of my existence (with this gripe) is looming.  505 at 522' and 5/3 at 490'????  Calgon take me away.  

[LA_TN]

2 hours ago, nashville born said:

Ax grind alert.  I feel as if I'm among my people so rant commencing.  This is a sweet photo.  As I was enjoying it yet again, a few things started to stick out.  Full disclosure, I had just finished visiting the Wiki tall buildings page.  Every time I get past the pain of the relative heights listed on that page, I see a photo like this.   Given the proximity of the examples I'll use, I say elevation/schmelevation.  How is there a 100' difference between The Place at 5th & Broad (listed at 433') and 501 Commerce (listed at 331")?  And if you can logically solve that one, go ahead and explain how the Renaissance is  listed at 385'.  For those playing along, that's 54' taller than 501 Commerce, 48' shorter than The Place, and yet looks as tall or taller in this photo than The Place????  Pinnacle is listed at at 417', a full three slots behind Bridgestone at 460', yet looks darn near the same height.   Elevation variances make much more sense as I look all the way to the Broadwest Office Tower (listed at 326') and consider the relative height difference between it and say, Endeavor (listed at 344').  But even with that allowance, there still seems to be just too much height variance.    Reg Z sets forth truth is lending.  We need a Reg TTT for tell the truth in building!   Okay, rant over.  Move along people.  Nothing to see here.

Specifically for The Place, 501 Commerce, and the Renaissance they seem to be correct and looks correct in the picture. The difference is where the height (and floor count) is measured from, which should be the address location. 501 Commerce is the highest elevation, then Renaissance, then The Place

[titanhog]

Saw this photo on Facebook.  Guy took the photo during the lockdown.  Pretty much a once-in-a-lifetime shot.

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[markhollin]

Courtesy of Sean Parker:
 

[markhollin]

TBT: 100 Oaks Mall area in 1965:

1968:

[smeagolsfree]

Just a few factoids for you guys to digest. As you know William and myself exchange numerous emails and have many conversations about the built environments of Nashville and many other cities. I was curious to see how many buildings Nashville has added over 100 feet since our little boom started in 2013. Now these number could be off by one or two but I keep a spread sheet that is pretty accurate. Many of the ones listed as under construction will soon slide into the completed list.

By my count in this wave since 2013 I think we have added 41 buildings over 10 stories. That includes 2 building additions to bring them to 11 stories to get them over 10.

 

I also have 34 listed as under construction, many of which will go to complete very soon. So, that give us a total of 75 buildings thus far this cycle 100' or taller in the last 8 years or shall we say 10 years because the ones that are currently under construction will be finished in 2 years.

 

Now this next section is iffy as many of these may not be built but there are another 75 buildings or so that are in the proposed, planning, rumored, and magic 8 ball phase. Some of these are buildings that have been made public in news articles, some are on hold, some I know about that I may have mentioned in a meet, and some are speculative buildings mentioned like the future Congress Group towers which may or may not have been duplicated from some I may have heard about.

 

Spread sheets come in handy!

[Native]

4 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Just a few factoids for you guys to digest. As you know William and myself exchange numerous emails and have many conversations about the built environments of Nashville and many other cities. I was curious to see how many buildings Nashville has added over 100 feet since our little boom started in 2013. Now these number could be off by one or two but I keep a spread sheet that is pretty accurate. Many of the ones listed as under construction will soon slide into the completed list.

By my count in this wave since 2013 I think we have added 41 buildings over 10 stories. That includes 2 building additions to bring them to 11 stories to get them over 10.

 

I also have 34 listed as under construction, many of which will go to complete very soon. So, that give us a total of 75 buildings thus far this cycle 100' or taller in the last 8 years or shall we say 10 years because the ones that are currently under construction will be finished in 2 years.

 

Now this next section is iffy as many of these may not be built but there are another 75 buildings or so that are in the proposed, planning, rumored, and magic 8 ball phase. Some of these are buildings that have been made public in news articles, some are on hold, some I know about that I may have mentioned in a meet, and some are speculative buildings mentioned like the future Congress Group towers which may or may not have been duplicated from some I may have heard about.

 

Spread sheets come in handy!

That is phenomenal.  I have lived in Nashville for more than 77 years and have seen the boomlets of 1985 and 2005 but this is a totally different deal.  The changes wrought since 2013 are unprecedented and show no sign of slacking off.   Old-timers like myself may complain but I like the growth and, as a skyscraper geek, enjoy keeping up with all the development.   Quality is important, of course, but we really can't control the economics that sometimes affect the finished product.  So keep building them tall!

[Bos2Nash]

5 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Just a few factoids for you guys to digest. As you know William and myself exchange numerous emails and have many conversations about the built environments of Nashville and many other cities. I was curious to see how many buildings Nashville has added over 100 feet since our little boom started in 2013. Now these number could be off by one or two but I keep a spread sheet that is pretty accurate. Many of the ones listed as under construction will soon slide into the completed list.

By my count in this wave since 2013 I think we have added 41 buildings over 10 stories. That includes 2 building additions to bring them to 11 stories to get them over 10.

 

I also have 34 listed as under construction, many of which will go to complete very soon. So, that give us a total of 75 buildings thus far this cycle 100' or taller in the last 8 years or shall we say 10 years because the ones that are currently under construction will be finished in 2 years.

 

Now this next section is iffy as many of these may not be built but there are another 75 buildings or so that are in the proposed, planning, rumored, and magic 8 ball phase. Some of these are buildings that have been made public in news articles, some are on hold, some I know about that I may have mentioned in a meet, and some are speculative buildings mentioned like the future Congress Group towers which may or may not have been duplicated from some I may have heard about.

 

Spread sheets come in handy!

That is extremely impressive for the city! Thanks Ron! 

We are definitely getting some height. Ultimately we will need to go through this current build cycle and then the next wave (when land is much more premium) we will see the taller structures that everyone grapples for.

[smeagolsfree]

I think its important to put numbers to paper for this sort of thing to put things in perspective.

[titanhog]

3 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

That is extremely impressive for the city! Thanks Ron! 

We are definitely getting some height. Ultimately we will need to go through this current build cycle and then the next wave (when land is much more premium) we will see the taller structures that everyone grapples for.

Yeah…the landowners in the CBD who won’t sell right now will look like geniuses in the next cycle (if they live long enough to see that era).  Can’t imagine the price of some of those parking lots in say 20 years.

[Sean blackdog]

Today this morning from Facebook Sky5. 
 

[titanhog]

Saw this image on the Fox 17 site just before sunset…and it was such a pleasant looking day that I thought I would share.

 

[markhollin]

Looking east from top floor of Broadwest office tower (Courtesy of Martin B. Cherry of NBJ):


 

[Sean blackdog]

Today this morning from Facebook Sky5. 
 

Edited June 4, 2021 by Sean blackdog

[Bos2Nash]

8 hours ago, markhollin said:

mmmmm that's a pretty Reed site just below

[Sean blackdog]

Today this evening from News Channel 5 & Sky5. 

[markhollin]

Courtesy of Dmitriy Arbatov:
 

[chris holman]

[OnePointEast]

On 6/4/2021 at 11:11 AM, Sean blackdog said:

Today this morning from Facebook Sky5.

What’s that huge crane looking thing in the background? That thing is huge.

[downtownresident]

46 minutes ago, OnePointEast said:

What’s that huge crane looking thing in the background? That thing is huge.

It may be the crane for the airport canopy.