210 Trade | EpiCentre

[Guest]

Ah, that makes sense. That'd be pretty cool, how long has that been in the 'works'

Kinda Sorta been a plan for half a decade. They submitted plans for the parking deck at least, probably a year and half ago. I have seen any additional movement however. 

[Spartan]

I am skeptical too, but I am also hoping for the best. Where would the retail be on trade?? Isn't that just parking garage entry

 

Ground level. I always assumed there was enough room in there for retail. While it wouldn't surprise me if that was overlooked (given how terrible the rest of the Epicenter is), I feel like retail there is a no brainer - especially if there isn't a direct elevator connection to the upper area. 

[Guest]

Ground level. I always assumed there was enough room in there for retail. While it wouldn't surprise me if that was overlooked (given how terrible the rest of the Epicenter is), I feel like retail there is a no brainer - especially if there isn't a direct elevator connection to the upper area. 

I have the original permits at home, I'll find them and post them tonight. 

[Berlin1926]

The CO reported today that construction would start in January 2015.  Any renderings yet?

[Urbanity]

^saw that as well and hope we'll see renderings soon.

 

I looked up a number of AC hotels (I already know Residence Inn) and I don't personally have great expectations.   This is not to say that I'm not estactic to finally get a building there, and it will certainly be better that the ghost floors that brood over the epicentre but I'm preparing myself for the building to look somewhat similar to the ALoft Epicentre.

[HopHead]

^saw that as well and hope we'll see renderings soon.

 

I looked up a number of AC hotels (I already know Residence Inn) and I don't personally have great expectations.   This is not to say that I'm not estactic to finally get a building there, and it will certainly be better that the ghost floors that brood over the epicentre but I'm preparing myself for the building to look somewhat similar to the ALoft Epicentre.

 

Keep expectations low so they should be exceeded..

[Prodev]

Pre-submittal meeting was scheduled for the hotel(s), so that's the first step to getting the plans submitted and approved. Based on the timing of that meeting, I'd say January is realistic to get the thing started. 

[Berlin1926]

^saw that as well and hope we'll see renderings soon.

 

I looked up a number of AC hotels (I already know Residence Inn) and I don't personally have great expectations.   This is not to say that I'm not estactic to finally get a building there, and it will certainly be better that the ghost floors that brood over the epicentre but I'm preparing myself for the building to look somewhat similar to the ALoft Epicentre.

AC Hotels in Italy are kind of dumps.  Can't say much about the others in Europe.  Only know the properties in Italy.

[Guest]

Another sign the hotel should look pretty decent. Seems they will be using BB+M to design the new building. So thats always good :-).

[15895]

Another sign the hotel should look pretty decent. Seems they will be using BB+M to design the new building. So thats always good :-).

That will be so awesome if 210 Trade Hotel and the Center City Green hotel went up at Nearly the same time. I wonder the odds of that happening

[Urbanity]

Just saw this and it gives me hope:  A rendering of the Asheville AC Hotel (132 rooms).  Source: http://www.citizen-times.com/story/carol-motsinger/2014/07/14/asheville-downtown-commission-hotel/12624217/

 

Edited July 30, 2014 by Urbanity

[aceboogie]

That Asheville building ain't too shabby. I'm looking forward to seeing how this hotel will turn out.

[Guest]

That Asheville building ain't too shabby. I'm looking forward to seeing how this hotel will turn out.

Ours has a smaller footprint, a 5 story existing podium and 200 more rooms, should be 2-3 times the height in my opinion. I think it will be 20 floors on top of the 5 floor podium, personally.

[CLTProductions]

How did they get renderings before us?!

[Urbanity]

How did they get renderings before us?!

If you read the linked article their hotel was proposed in April vs. just last month for us.

[atlrvr]

Ours has a smaller footprint, a 5 story existing podium and 200 more rooms, should be 2-3 times the height in my opinion. I think it will be 20 floors on top of the 5 floor podium, personally.

...but they only have 5 floors of rooms....the rest is parking deck and lobby space, which already exists at 210 Trade

[Guest]

...but they only have 5 floors of rooms....the rest is parking deck and lobby space, which already exists at 210 Trade

To start with, we have 2.5x more rooms. 

Also, the lobby for 210 trade was planned on the amenity floor. So There is only elevators to the lobby on the bottom floor, not a lobby. 

There would need to be two sky lobbies for each hotel I'd imagine. Thats how the two flag hotels in NYC work. 

Our hotel would have a smaller footprint, since I'd imagine they would have to more or less build on top of the original footprint, unless they plan on reinforcing where the amenity deck was to go, which would be an extra expense. 

I take this to mean 10 floors of one hotel, 8 floors of the other and 2 floors of lobby. 20 floors.

[CLTProductions]

If you read the linked article their hotel was proposed in April vs. just last month for us.

Hahaha touche! I Just want some renderings for this project!!

[15895]

To start with, we have 2.5x more rooms.

Also, the lobby for 210 trade was planned on the amenity floor. So There is only elevators to the lobby on the bottom floor, not a lobby.

There would need to be two sky lobbies for each hotel I'd imagine. Thats how the two flag hotels in NYC work.

Our hotel would have a smaller footprint, since I'd imagine they would have to more or less build on top of the original footprint, unless they plan on reinforcing where the amenity deck was to go, which would be an extra expense.

I take this to mean 10 floors of one hotel, 8 floors of the other and 2 floors of lobby. 20 floors.

Would that 20 floors be on top of the epicenter? Or 20 floors including the epicenter.

I wonder why they would do two seperate hotels on top of eachother? Instead of just a single brand. I'm sure there is a reason, though I would like to know

Edit: Re-read your original response and seen you said 20 on top of epicenter. Sorry. And just so my post isn't completely worthless, I would love to one day see a fashion retailer on the amenity deck. Gawdy and highly visible. That would be extremely cool

Edited August 2, 2014 by AirNostrumMAD

[HopHead]

I'm ready for renderings of this & the dual hotel. I assume a CBJ article will likely pop up soon

 

Yea, this one has really peaked my interest as well. Look forward to the renderings. As atlrvr and RD alluded to, these guys are well capitalized... Hopefully that means we get something that is both unique and high quality. 

[dubone]

There are some attachments added this month to Accela for the hotels, but for this and The Bearden, they appear locked/unclickable:

 

https://aca.accela.com/charlotte/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=LandDevelopment&TabName=LandDevelopment&capID1=14LDU&capID2=00000&capID3=00041

[49er]

My apologies if any of this has already been shared but I saw this regarding the epicentre hotel:

 

The hotel will consist of a Marriott AC Hotel at Levels 5-12 and a Marriott Residence Inn at Levels 14-21 with a Roof

Terrace / Bar at Level 22. There will be no 13th floor. Construction will be post tensioned

concrete slabs with reinforced concrete columns, light gauge steel stud exterior walls and EIFS

exterior veneer

[HopHead]

 

My apologies if any of this has already been shared but I saw this regarding the epicentre hotel:

 

The hotel will consist of a Marriott AC Hotel at Levels 5-12 and a Marriott Residence Inn at Levels 14-21 with a Roof

Terrace / Bar at Level 22. There will be no 13th floor. Construction will be post tensioned

concrete slabs with reinforced concrete columns, light gauge steel stud exterior walls and EIFS

exterior veneer

 

 

Ahh. Everyone's favorite. EIFS exterior. No surprise.

[CLTProductions]

 

My apologies if any of this has already been shared but I saw this regarding the epicentre hotel:

 

The hotel will consist of a Marriott AC Hotel at Levels 5-12 and a Marriott Residence Inn at Levels 14-21 with a Roof

Terrace / Bar at Level 22. There will be no 13th floor. Construction will be post tensioned

concrete slabs with reinforced concrete columns, light gauge steel stud exterior walls and EIFS

exterior veneer

 

Oh I think this is definitely new news! Love the roof terrace and bar!!!! Something's gotta compete with Fahrenheit, can't wait for that.

 

So I am assuming when it says Levels 5-12....the first 4 are the existing Epi correct?

 

And with a Residence Inn for sure going in here, I continue my spectulation that current Residence will become a Marriott and the current Marriott will become a JW? Is that farfetched of a thought? Wouldn't it be very strange to have 2 Residence Inns in uptown?

Edited October 29, 2014 by Jayvee

[Matthew.Brendan]

It's interesting what cultural superstitions survive into this day.