SouthEnd Midrise Projects

[j-man]

Does this go here or are these renderings up elsewhere? 

[CLTProductions]

4 hours ago, j-man said:

Does this go here or are these renderings up elsewhere? 

it has its own thread https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/topic/118773-childress-klein-ram-realty-south-end-tower/page/3/#comments

[j-man]

2 hours ago, Jayvee said:

it has its own thread https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/topic/118773-childress-klein-ram-realty-south-end-tower/page/3/#comments

Oh ok thanks 

[Tyrone Wiggum]

On 6/27/2019 at 8:17 AM, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Might be time to have a South End high rise thread.


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South End would need to have an actual mid rise first; Lowe's is the first mid rise to be built; I'm sure there's more to come but this thread having existed for over 10 years without an actual mid rise is like Charlotte calling itself "World Class" when I was a kid....

[wilmore]

20 minutes ago, Tyrone Wiggum said:

South End would need to have an actual mid rise first; Lowe's is the first mid rise to be built; I'm sure there's more to come but this thread having existed for over 10 years without an actual mid rise is like Charlotte calling itself "World Class" when I was a kid....

Ashton, DFA and the RailYard buildings are not midrises to you? 

[Crucial_Infra]

2 hours ago, Tyrone Wiggum said:

South End would need to have an actual mid rise first; Lowe's is the first mid rise to be built; I'm sure there's more to come but this thread having existed for over 10 years without an actual mid rise is like Charlotte calling itself "World Class" when I was a kid....

Whether Charlotte was or is “World Class” can be debated, but Lowe’s as a high-rise cannot. In fact it doesn’t even qualify as high-rise by many definitions because it’s too tall

[tozmervo]

25 minutes ago, Crucial_Infra said:

Whether Charlotte was or is “World Class” can be debated, but Lowe’s as a high-rise cannot. In fact it doesn’t even qualify as high-rise by many definitions because it’s too tall

Building on what that article notes - most widely established building codes (including IBC and NFPA 101) use 75 ft as the transition from regular to high-rise construction. That number is driven by the ability of fire ladder trucks to reach/evacuate people from the highest floor. Code does not use the term "mid-rise." 

[XRZ.ME]

braham new bern station side


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[CLTProductions]

Why bother with the gate? That is the easiest hopped fence ever lol

[CLT>]

6 hours ago, Jayvee said:

Why bother with the gate? That is the easiest hopped fence ever lol

Lawyers

[tozmervo]

1 hour ago, CLT> said:

Lawyers

Unfortunately I don't think that gate will do much to keep lawyers out, either.

[KJHburg]

Various South End projects and random SE shots today. 

1.  apartments at Morehead and S Tryon   2. Charlotte Beer garden and Allstate sign up on Railyard first time I have seen it   3. 4. Sycamore Brewing soon to have a big tall neighbor in the Portman tower   5. finally a hotel opening and I predict this one will be blocked heavily until a couple more open in this area.   Plus their cinnamon rolls are great!    6. Railyard and 7. apartments at Morehead and S Tryon again. 

Okay ignore all the numbering the photos went out of order.  I think you can figure it out LOL> 

 

Edited July 5, 2019 by KJHburg

[rancenc]

Great picture KJHburg...the low rise but high density of the pictures gives a slight "Washington DC look" to the area!

[Nick2]

1 hour ago, rancenc said:

Great picture KJHburg...the low rise but high density of the pictures gives a slight "Washington DC look" to the area!

I think Washington DC style density should be the goal for the entire blue line extending out from all the stations. It's already happening in South end.

[Cadi40]

While I do like my height outside of Uptown (no, not a sexual innuendo), I hope to see contiguous blocks filled with diverse mid rise apartment structures implemented with retail and modern office buildings sprinkled in. SouthEnd should be an example for all other areas interacting with the Light Rail with hubs of development centered around stations, much like Washington’s suburban developments. 

[archiham04]

On 7/5/2019 at 4:56 PM, KJHburg said:

 

I noticed the other day that the front edge of the patio at Sycamore is built out of railroad rails.  Made me wonder if there is a story there.  This patio is pretty hodge podge as it is, so I would assume that someone found them onsite during construction or something.

[kermit]

21 hours ago, archiham04 said:

I noticed the other day that the front edge of the patio at Sycamore is built out of railroad rails.  Made me wonder if there is a story there.  This patio is pretty hodge podge as it is, so I would assume that someone found them onsite during construction or something.

Yup. This entire stretch of warehouses was served by sidings from the original railroad which ran where the Blue Line is now. Most of them have been removed (or just buried) but one that remains can be seen behind the buildings on Distribution st (near Dunavant).

The second graphic shows my best guess for the Sycamore siding (its just a guess), although I am relatively certain about the siding layout at the building next door (the soon to be Portman mid-rise). 

The unrequested history lesson dujour is that this railroad (where the Blue Line is now) was the Charlotte and South Carolina Railroad (later owned by Southern and eventually Norfolk Southern). This was the first railroad to reach the Piedmont of NC (and predates the NCRR by a couple of years). It was built to carry crops (mostly cotton) down to Columbia and then on to Charleston for export. The story I heard about route choice (from Tom Hanchett's book) was that they were uncertain about where to terminate the rail line, both Monroe and Gastonia were strongly considered -- a group of planters in _tiny_ Charlotte decided to get together and pay the rail company to end their line in Charlotte instead. The incentives paid to the (soon to be named) Charlotte and SC RR have been said to be "the single most important event in Charlotte's economic history." The railroad encouraged more rails to be built to town (the presence of the Charlotte and South Carolina was said to be the deciding factor in determining the Western end of the NCRR) and thus enabled Charlotte to become an industrial (and eventually financial) hub.

EDIT: While I was pulling the images I spotted the Southend Hilton, conveniently located behind the Common Market (see below).

[you don't need to look far in Google maps to find errors like this]

Edited July 9, 2019 by kermit

[jednc]

2 hours ago, kermit said:

Yup. This entire stretch of warehouses was served by sidings from the original railroad which ran where the Blue Line is now. Most of them have been removed but one that remains can be seen behind the buildings on Distribution st (near Dunavant).

The second graphic shows my best guess for the Sycamore siding (its just a guess), although I am certain about the siding layout at the building next door (the soon to be Portman mid-rise). 

The unrequested history lesson dujour is that this railroad (where the Blue Line is now) was the Charlotte and South Carolina Railroad (later owned by Southern and eventually Norfolk Southern). This was the first railroad to reach the Piedmont of NC (and predates the NCRR by a couple of years). It was built to carry crops (mostly cotton) down to Columbia and then on to Charleston for export. The story I heard about route choice (from Tom Hanchett's book) was that they were uncertain about where to terminate the rail line, both Monroe and Gastonia were strongly considered -- a group of planters in _tiny_ Charlotte decided to get together and pay the rail company to end their line in Charlotte instead. The incentives paid to the (soon to be named) Charlotte and SC RR have been said to be "the single most important event in Charlotte's economic history." The railroad encouraged more rails to be built to town (the presence of the Charlotte and South Carolina was said to be the deciding factor in determining the Western end of the NCRR) and thus enabled Charlotte to become an industrial (and eventually financial) hub.

EDIT: While I was pulling the images I spotted the Southend Hilton, conveniently located behind the Common Market (see below).

[you don't need to look far in Google maps to find errors like this]

Did you submit a correction in Google Maps?

Edited July 8, 2019 by jednc

[KJHburg]

^^^^ That "Southend Hilton" on google maps is the world headquarters of Krispy Kreme.   How dare they misbrand my office I mean their office.  That is 2115 Hawkins, the Asana owned now office for Krispy Kreme.

[Scribe]

There is a rezoning application for 510 W Tremont Ave, Charlotte, NC 28203 - this is next to the townhome development.

Asking for MUDD zoning and max height of 65'  vague on other details anyone know what this is?

http://ww.charmeck.org/Planning/Rezoning/2019/070-085/2019-073 site plan.pdf

[CLTProductions]

2 hours ago, Scribe said:

There is a rezoning application for 510 W Tremont Ave, Charlotte, NC 28203 - this is next to the townhome development.

Asking for MUDD zoning and max height of 65'  vague on other details anyone know what this is?

http://ww.charmeck.org/Planning/Rezoning/2019/070-085/2019-073 site plan.pdf

Almost positive it’s a storage place

[Guest]

Almost positive it’s a storage place

No it’s multi family. Parking envelope would be far smaller.


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[CLTProductions]

Yeah the storage is father down Tremont. Oops

[lancer22]

12 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

No it’s multi family. Parking envelope would be far smaller.


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That's an interesting MF site......

 

[Guest]

Just now, lancer22 said:

That's an interesting MF site......

 

it definitely is, but nearly this whole stretch of Tremont will be Townhouses in the next few years,