Economic Conditions - Nashville, TN, U.S., Global

[Nathan_in_DC]

19 minutes ago, deletethisaccount said:

Yeah, walk around my neighborhood downtown on broadway with only crackhead zombies walking around. Been doing that for 2 weeks straight and TRUST ME IT AIN'T HELPING.

Hell, walking around Percy Warner with my dog over and over and over has not helped an once.

Please ban this account and all of it's postings. Thanks.

Someone point me to a mod who can perform my request of full account and post deletion. Thanks.

Instead of being all dramatic, you could just PM a mod. Instead, you just look like you're doing some serious attention seeking here.

[Hushpuppy321]

41 minutes ago, OnePointEast said:

How long before things go back to normalcy? Like restaurants reopened and the likes.

Really depends on the rate of spread in the community but I don’t thin’ there will be a loosening of restrictions until sometime into May at the earliest.  There’s been tremendous damage to the economy and social distancing will continue on in certain ways.

3 hours ago, LA_TN said:

Antioch assessment center ready to open

This assessment Center in Antioch is one of those drive thru Coronavirus Testing sites?

[UTgrad09]

34 minutes ago, deletethisaccount said:

Yeah, walk around my neighborhood downtown on broadway with only crackhead zombies walking around. Been doing that for 2 weeks straight and TRUST ME IT AIN'T HELPING.

Hell, walking around Percy Warner with my dog over and over and over has not helped an once.

Please ban this account and all of it's postings. Thanks.

Someone point me to a mod who can perform my request of full account and post deletion. Thanks.

 

[BnaBreaker]

1 hour ago, deletethisaccount said:

Whatever mod is watching should probably just ban me, since none of you can see the light anyway.
 

I'll stop providing HQ images of all the downtown projects. Because who cares. You people turned our once thriving city into a crack-head zombie ghost town.

People are trying to engage you in an actual conversation and you're just freaking out and running away.  So... good talk.  

[donNdonelson2]

53 minutes ago, Nathan_in_the_UK said:

Instead of being all dramatic, you could just PM a mod. Instead, you just look like you're doing some serious attention seeking here.

Or just sign out and stop posting. It’s really pretty simple, either way.

[LA_TN]

@deletethisaccount was making 2 valid points:

1) people will die, due to shutting down the economy

2) the younger generation will have to pay for this

Both points are absolutely true, so why did everyone have to go on the offensive? I don't blame him for losing his composure. I hope he stays, he is a valuable member of our group, and this blasting everyone on here is not productive for our forum

Chill people.... 

[markhollin]

2 hours ago, deletethisaccount said:

Please ban this account and all of it's postings. Thanks.

Someone point me to a mod who can perform my request of full account and post deletion. Thanks.

As you are well aware, I have deleted a few of your more inflammatory posts from over the weekend before most anyone else saw them.

I don't believe there is a way to go back and mass-delete anyone's posts. If it means that much to you, you can delete them all one-by-one yourself.

In regard to your claims about how you are suffering: we are ALL having various difficulties and having to make sacrifices during this time.  Some perhaps more than others---but I can guarantee you that there are some suffering more than you.  So please spare everyone your excursions on the mopey martyr train.  

[BnaBreaker]

39 minutes ago, LA_TN said:

@deletethisaccount was making 2 valid points:

1) people will die, due to shutting down the economy

2) the younger generation will have to pay for this

Both points are absolutely true, so why did everyone have to go on the offensive? I don't blame him for losing his composure. I hope he stays, he is a valuable member of our group, and this blasting everyone on here is not productive for our forum

Chill people.... 

As many people, including myself have pointed out in our exchanges with him, I'm not sure any of us even disagree with the over-arching point he's making.  I mean, it kind of goes without saying that the economic impact of this will not be good, and yes, many people will be impacted negatively.  There is a conversation to be had, no doubt, about how far we take this and how best to balance it.  But he refuses to have that conversation and instead insists on hurling insults at those who dare ask him simple questions and damning people to hell for the crime of disagreeing with his assertion that infectious disease experts are not to be trusted with regard to infectious disease.  I don't mean to speak for other posters here, but it is that behavior, I think, which some of us here rightly find objectionable.  I'm sure we all appreciate his past contributions to this forum and would rather he not leave, but in this particular scenario, I think it's clear which of the apples in this bunch is sour. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by BnaBreaker

[UTgrad09]

34 minutes ago, LA_TN said:

@deletethisaccount was making 2 valid points:

1) people will die, due to shutting down the economy

2) the younger generation will have to pay for this

Both points are absolutely true, so why did everyone have to go on the offensive? I don't blame him for losing his composure. I hope he stays, he is a valuable member of our group, and this blasting everyone on here is not productive for our forum

Chill people.... 

Yeah, you're kind of leaving out the part where he accused people that weren't in lock step with his views of endorsing economic destruction and saying they will pay for their sins. 

I agree that some people went on the offensive to an extent, but a lot of people had very reasonable and rational points to raise, to which he just dismissed as being stupid, ill-informed, too far gone, or again, as endorsing the destruction of the country. I think he used about half of the logical fallacy arguments in just one day of posting.

I'm normally one to discourage the use of drugs, but dude really needs to just smoke a bowl and relax.

[UTgrad09]

Relevant. 

[CaptainJilliams]

All I can say to @deletethisaccount is this:

 

1. Yes, our economy will take a hit on all levels, and many people young and old will indeed lose their jobs. I think every single person on this forum either knows someone who is affected or are experiencing the effects themselves.  I guarantee there are people in far more stressful situations then yourself who aren't overreacting as you have just done previously.There will be some hard times ahead.

 

2. If you are simply willing to lie down and cower because of it, then I genuinely pity you. Many generations have faced their own significant challenges, many far more difficult, yet they made it through and we are all here because of their efforts.  I'm not saying this whole situation hasn't stressed me out, I work in an essential industry and I am exposed to many people everyday, both sick and healthy. But that being said, I'm not going to let this virus stop me from providing for my family and living my life. The worst thing you can do is quit and give up. We will get through this, when is the uncertain part.  In the meantime, do your part to help those around you, it will be a good distraction from all the negativity.

[smeagolsfree]

I was realy trying to take some time away as I needed a break but I will say this. Apparently some people just simply are not up for a challenge any longer. They just want everything handed to them on a silver platter and just dont want to work for anything.

I have been wiped out two or three times and have come back. This country has been in really big messes before and it devestaed a lot of people. The Civil War, The Spanish flu with WWI, The Dust bowl, The Great Depression,  WW II. Every generation or so has to face a huge challenge,  so if this one wants everything handed to them and the economy to keep on trucking regardless of the health of others then that is stinkin thinkin. Just sounds as ifyou are angry and afraid.  Nothing wrong with that. You have to admit it to yourself first. I have a friend in the same boat that lost his job and the company told him when they come back everyone starts back at square one. Thats not fair and he is angry. There will be a lot of companies that do things that are below board and they need to be called out. Please dont takethe anger out on the folks here because they do not agree with your POV.

I do believe the majority would disagree and as far as I know the majority still rules. If you got a problem the write the White House. So what if we dont agree with you. You can insult all day long and beg to be banned which I will not do because you have not really broken the rules.  If you want to delete your account, then email NEO and he will be glad to do it. But your post stay unless you delete them.

But I will say this as an example of a place that did not shut down and that was Iowa. They just put the stay at home orders in place or something similar because they had a spike in cases. 

[TheRaglander]

I am mostly a lurker now that I have switched jobs and I am WFH 100% of the time now... but I used to walk around downtown and take pics.  I always love coming to this board.  I hit this site many times every day hoping to see someone post breaking news about a tower higher than 700'.   This COVID thing is really confusing.  I used to wonder if the economic downfall was worth it when comparing it to the toll on humans.  Until I lost my 54 year old uncle last night to the virus.  It's crazy because it hit him hard and quick.  What really sucks, and is something I never thought about until last night, was that he died alone.  No one was allowed next to him.  No one could visit him or say their goodbyes.  His wife, his kids, his grandkids.  No one could tell him that all of his friends and family were thinking of him and would miss him dearly.  His wife will eventually get his remains in the form of ashes.  And when the quarantine lifts this summer, only then we can come together as a family and make sense of it.

I apologize for the word-splurge.  But even now it's confusing.  People are dying in such horrific and humanly demeaning ways.  On the other hand, I know a lot of people who have lost their jobs and their lives will never be the same again.  I wish there was a blueprint to how we should react to this pandemic.  Maybe in a decade or two, historians will evaluate what went down and write a paper on how it changed the world and what we should have done differently.  

Just today, count your blessings.  Call a family member.  Let people know you're thinking about them.  Nashville will recover from this.  Sure, there will be a scar that will never go away.  But this city is poised to recover because when the quarantine lifts, people will want to get back to life.  

[BnaBreaker]

3 minutes ago, TheRaglander said:

I am mostly a lurker now that I have switched jobs and I am WFH 100% of the time now... but I used to walk around downtown and take pics.  I always love coming to this board.  I hit this site many times every day hoping to see someone post breaking news about a tower higher than 700'.   This COVID thing is really confusing.  I used to wonder if the economic downfall was worth it when comparing it to the toll on humans.  Until I lost my 54 year old uncle last night to the virus.  It's crazy because it hit him hard and quick.  What really sucks, and is something I never thought about until last night, was that he died alone.  No one was allowed next to him.  No one could visit him or say their goodbyes.  His wife, his kids, his grandkids.  No one could tell him that all of his friends and family were thinking of him and would miss him dearly.  His wife will eventually get his remains in the form of ashes.  And when the quarantine lifts this summer, only then we can come together as a family and make sense of it.

I apologize for the word-splurge.  But even now it's confusing.  People are dying in such horrific and humanly demeaning ways.  On the other hand, I know a lot of people who have lost their jobs and their lives will never be the same again.  I wish there was a blueprint to how we should react to this pandemic.  Maybe in a decade or two, historians will evaluate what went down and write a paper on how it changed the world and what we should have done differently.  

Just today, count your blessings.  Call a family member.  Let people know you're thinking about them.  Nashville will recover from this.  Sure, there will be a scar that will never go away.  But this city is poised to recover because when the quarantine lifts, people will want to get back to life.  

I am so, so sorry for your loss @TheRaglander, nobody deserves a fate like that.  It is unfortunate that we as humans, myself included of course, never tend to understand the true scope of things until the impact is right in front of us.  Your family will be in my thoughts and prayers and I thank you for sharing your story.  

[markhollin]

Business owners flooded Nashville-based Pinnacle Bank with 4,000 applications for emergency loans in a four-day span — seeking $1.1 billion of do-or-die funding as they scrape and claw to keep their companies afloat amid the catastrophic economic shutdown sparked by the coronavirus.

President and CEO Terry Turner called the surge "wildly exponential" compared to the regular flow of loans that Pinnacle, which is the region's largest bank based on local deposits, normally handles. "Our whole bank's portfolio is $19 billion in loans, so to take $1 billion or so in about a day is a pretty extraordinary thing."

The stunning burst of loan requests that Pinnacle (Nasdaq: PNFP) and other area banks are seeing is a fresh indicator of the distress facing business owners who are navigating the COVID-19 pandemic.

More behind the NBJ paywall here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2020/04/07/nashvilles-biggest-bank-blitzed-by-desperate.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

[Armacing]

1 hour ago, markhollin said:

President and CEO Terry Turner called the surge "wildly exponential" compared to the regular flow of loans that Pinnacle, which is the region's largest bank based on local deposits, normally handles. "Our whole bank's portfolio is $19 billion in loans, so to take $1 billion or so in about a day is a pretty extraordinary thing."

Buy gold.   This is just getting started folks, and it ends with the dollar losing a lot of value.

[markhollin]

I know this isn't development related....but Nashville lost one of it's best voices tonight.  This is what I wrote on my Facebook page:

R.I.P. John Prine, who passed away at age 73 this evening from the hated Coronavirus. A beloved member of the Nashville music community for the past 3 decades, John got his start in his hometown Chicago in the late 60s, and released 18 critically acclaimed albums in the half century since, earning several Grammys along the way.  I was fortunate to see him a handful of times, including those early days at the Earl of Old Town in the Windy City. I count myself blessed that I got to share a meal with him at a humble little Italian joint on Belcourt Avenue here in Smashville back in the 90s.  His ode to the elderly, released on his very first record in 1971, carries particular weight in these perilous days…especially for those who are vulnerable and oft-forgotten:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVhA01J0Zsg

[Binbin98]

40 minutes ago, markhollin said:

I know this isn't development related....but Nashville lost one of it's best voices tonight.  This is what I wrote on my Facebook page:

R.I.P. John Prine, who passed away at age 73 this evening from the hated Coronavirus. A beloved member of the Nashville music community for the past 3 decades, John got his start in his hometown Chicago in the late 60s, and released 18 critically acclaimed albums in the half century since, earning several Grammys along the way.  I was fortunate to see him a handful of times, including those early days at the Earl of Old Town in the Windy City. I count myself blessed that I got to share a meal with him at a humble little Italian joint on Belcourt Avenue here in Smashville back in the 90s.  His ode to the elderly, released on his very first record in 1971, carries particular weight in these perilous days…especially for those who are vulnerable and oft-forgotten:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVhA01J0Zsg

 

This is so sad. And I feel really sorry for his son, whom I knew personally because we went to the same high school together here.

[LA_TN]

Rolling Stone has a great write up

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/john-prine-obit-253684/

 

[LA_TN]

Local playground taped off 

[DDIG]

The popularly cited UW model just dropped to 60k deaths nationwide. It went from 500k to 250k to 100k to 80k to 60k in a span of a week. So it probably drops again. It HAD been counting social distancing, so this is just a matter of the most popular model making bad assumptions or miscalculations - maybe on its spread-ability or how many asymptomatic cases there are.

[Nathan_in_DC]

1 hour ago, DDIG said:

The popularly cited UW model just dropped to 60k deaths nationwide. It went from 500k to 250k to 100k to 80k to 60k in a span of a week. So it probably drops again. It HAD been counting social distancing, so this is just a matter of the most popular model making bad assumptions or miscalculations - maybe on its spread-ability or how many asymptomatic cases there are.

Often these sorts of estimates will be worst-case-but-still-feasible situations, and rightfully so. It's much better to plan accordingly for more cases than you end up having than to have more cases than you planned for. The numbers will continue to fluctuate, and could go down substantially, but they could also go back up as the models improve.

[grilled_cheese]

I wonder if these people feel good about enforcing single serve margaritas vs pitcher margaritas at this time?

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/money/2020/04/08/tennessee-cracks-down-curbside-and-delivery-alcohol-sales-violations/2960673001/

[Nash_12South]

5 minutes ago, grilled_cheese said:

I wonder if these people feel good about enforcing single serve margaritas vs pitcher margaritas at this time?

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/money/2020/04/08/tennessee-cracks-down-curbside-and-delivery-alcohol-sales-violations/2960673001/

This may explain why my latest margarita came in a tiny sealed mason jar......

Edited April 8, 2020 by Nash_12South

[UTgrad09]

11 hours ago, DDIG said:

The popularly cited UW model just dropped to 60k deaths nationwide. It went from 500k to 250k to 100k to 80k to 60k in a span of a week. So it probably drops again. It HAD been counting social distancing, so this is just a matter of the most popular model making bad assumptions or miscalculations - maybe on its spread-ability or how many asymptomatic cases there are.

One thing that I heard that I found interesting is that the earlier models assumed that only 50% of Americans would actually practice social distancing, but it turns out 90%+ are actually making a good effort. So I guess they just assumed that most Americans would take it even less seriously than they did, and plotted more along the lines of a worst case scenario.