Beacon Partners- LoSo Station

[JRCLT]

Again back to presenting the information in a way that is agreeable to the average intelligence (or better yet below average) person. All you need to do is have public support and things would go beautifully.

I think you didn’t catch the point I tried to make there. (I say the following because of the contents in your reply) In no disrespect to you, to put it simply: Some people just do not care despite the facts presented to them in any manner. I’m referring to unfounded stubbornness. To actually get people behind it you can’t just “dumb it down” but instead manipulate the thoughts of others. As sad and conniving as that sounds that is how you get “below average intelligence” to cooperate because they can’t think for themselves and would rather keep what already exists (I don’t speak for all but those that usually don’t even attempt to listen are the ones I’m referring to). These individuals tend to avoid risks and uncertainty or put forth effort to understand the implications of an idea. Another reason is someone of high intelligence doing that exact method of manipulation to sustain the status quo because they see it fit to keep it. If and when they finally experience the negative affects that the idea tried to solve and another exposes the manipulation, then they feel betrayed. In reality, that manipulation is a construct of their apathy and negligence to think about the benefits of a decision/idea.

I wish people would think for themselves, I really do. Whether critical thinking is innate or learned I cannot say and some opinions and wants need to give way for at least some compromise for things to work out at all or even “beautifully” as you said. More so, I just see all or nothing people and die on that hill stubbornness (the good and the bad kind). The worst kind to try and comprise with and that is the main issue with people.

Tbh not sure how that sounds lol. I’m not sure if that was too serious or not, but it is evident in certain cases that some people will not listen and instead shut other ideas out. Typically this would be considered a conservative point of view and it is, but can also be due to selfish or irrational people. I think I’m going into a rant so I’ll cut it off before it gets too long. (In this I am trying to provide insight based on my observations and knowledge. If anyone feels differently I look forward to see what you may have seen).

Facts are facts though, density/transit (pedestrian focus) generally should be the future. These concepts are the most efficient and sustainable use of land. Especially if we seek to preserve the future for those that come after.

[RANYC]

2 hours ago, kermit said:

I dunno, I think you guys are misinterpreting the criticism a bit. While the developers are certainly analyzing the bejezzus out of the project and its anticipated returns two years in the future, the developer cashes out quickly leaving the residents of the neighborhood stuck with those short-term decisions for decades.  Since the building will continue to be a part of the neighborhood long after the developer walks away someone needs to speak up about its long-term shortcomings and how those value engineering decisions will impact the community. Ideally the city would have regulations in place that do this but since this is Charlotte… 

 

It’s not as though private development isn’t adding ground floor retail to the neighborhood.  It’s happening in a few locations on both sides of South.  It happens to not be happening at this particular site which used to be a car-oriented burger joint, that will now become hundreds of dwelling units for that most essential of human activities, habitation.  Dwelling units that will feed emerging retail and other uses elsewhere in LOSO. 

Guess I’m just not as negative on a density of residential coming to an area that’s only just becoming something other than classic, surface lot, sprawling suburbia.

Edited June 20, 2022 by RANYC

[Urban Cowboy]

On 6/17/2022 at 7:44 PM, AirNostrumMAD said:

Jason Thomas is an urban development/planning columnist/journalist.

 

Is he really though? He posts personal opinions on his instagram. I seem to recall a couple of stories he wrote for the Agenda YEARS ago. Not sure either qualification makes someone a planning columnist or journalist. I think he works for a bank if I recall correctly and blogs about development announcements. Does he have a social following? Yes. Does he post about what developers are doing? Yes. Does he want you to know that he's "in the know" with his teaser stories? Yes. Does he draft or influence policy or development decisions? No. He seems to be a development nerd who likes the attention, frankly. I appreciate a lot of his takes, but he comes off as bratty a lot of times too - as if any of these developers care what he thinks. I think he's done a good job at making more regular citizens pay attention to development in Charlotte. Which is very important and I'll give him credit there. But I've seen him troll people on instagram and then delete entire comment threads before. A journalist wouldn't do that. My understanding is that underwriting drives a lot of the decisions when it comes to inclusion of retail. Do I think being vocal about the lack of retail helps? Sure. But we're not the ones writing the checks. I personally look to CLTDevelopment for announcements and opinions because I appreciate his professionalism, credibility, and consideration. 

[DonkeyKong]

Lidl has started!  Woohoo!

 

Also saw core samples being taken at Burger King on the corner of South and Marsh.  Anyone know what that is all about?

Edited June 22, 2022 by DonkeyKong

[JRCLT]

Now how non pedestrian friendly is the design?

[CLT Development]

On 6/20/2022 at 11:19 AM, wilmore said:

Classic stuff from our local urbanist "experts" who have no actual role in the process, besides getting some leaks from developers and posting it. 

I'm assuming since you said "experts" plural, I'm included in this.  As for "no actual role in the process"
• I have served on 3 city committees, and neighborhood boards and helped shape the UDO through OAC, helping spur the Innovation District Place Type
• Have worked on 3 local elections
• Was appointed by City Council to be a Planning Commissioner this month
• Have worked in the industry as a Marketer and Business Development person
• Have consulted on social district discussions with the city and center city partners
• Have recorded podcasts, television segments, been a keynote speaker and done ted talks on urbanism and construction in Charlotte. 
• Am starting a 501c3, Urban Charlotte Consortium, to advocate, fundraise for, and inspire the creation of a more accessible, connected and vibrant community. 
• Have written and published the most read construction and development stories with nearly every single publication in Charlotte.
• Serve on the Council for Creatives, and in my full time job I'm working to unite the cultural institutions uptown to work together to bring Uptown back. 
• Am working with @MarcoPoloto create a Public-Private Urban Design Center 
And more...

So yes, no role in the process, totally. Have a nice day :-)

Edited June 23, 2022 by CLT Development

[go_vertical]

[turbocraig]

Hey congrats on the Planning Commissioner gig! 

[CLTProductions]

On 6/20/2022 at 11:19 AM, wilmore said:

Classic stuff from our local urbanist "experts" who have no actual role in the process, besides getting some leaks from developers and posting it. 

aweeee someones big mad they are irrelevant and dont know what they are talking about 

Edited June 24, 2022 by CLTProductions

[InSouthPark]

6 hours ago, CLTProductions said:

aweeee someones big mad they are irrelevant and dont know what they are talking about 

Y'all be nice to Jay.  Sounds like he has panties in a bunch. 

[CLTProductions]

LOL ah yes, its all coming back to me now

Edited June 24, 2022 by CLTProductions

[j-man]

[j-man]

What is being built here near the Auto Zone? 

Edited April 3, 2023 by j-man

[JRCLT]

What is being built here near the Auto Zone? 

That’s Northwood Raven’s project I think.



https://nwrliving.com/portfolio/scaleybark/

[Hushpuppy321]

Wow that looks like a very comprehensive project.  I wonder how it compares in scale with Beacon’s Project across the street?  Also - there was some Public/Private Partnership/Funding for Beacons Project if I’m not mistaken.  

[KJHburg]

4 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Wow that looks like a very comprehensive project.  I wonder how it compares in scale with Beacon’s Project across the street?  Also - there was some Public/Private Partnership/Funding for Beacons Project if I’m not mistaken.  

Inlivian has a site for affordable housing building on the back street on the LoSo project near the new apartments there.  That is the only public private partnership I know of other than commitment to keep some parking available for park and rider users of the LYNX

[j-man]

On 4/4/2023 at 7:24 AM, JeanClt said:

 

That’s Northwood Raven’s project I think.



https://nwrliving.com/portfolio/scaleybark/

 

Thanks for answering me. I had no clue about this. Looks nice but a bit generic. Too many low rise building across such a large footprint. 

[ES Charlotte]

Taco Boy

[Nathan2]

On 4/4/2023 at 7:24 AM, JeanClt said:

 

That’s Northwood Raven’s project I think.



https://nwrliving.com/portfolio/scaleybark/

 

That is a lot of surface parking lots, even with a parking garage next door.  Seems like a lot of wasted space. 

[rancenc]

The continued growth and development of the Lower South End area.

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/local/lower-south-end-charlotte-nc-local/275-95fe611f-7905-4f85-a2ac-f5bc9e54badd

[KJHburg]

these 2 new office buildings with ground floor retail including Taco Boy, Salata, and Sweat Method  are fantastic looking. Kudos to Beacon!  (and agreeably the most hated tower in all of Charlotte the Carvana tower LOL)

https://thestationatloso.com/

finally saw the Thousand Hills coffee shop on the ground floor of the MAA Loso formerly known as Novel Loso. 

https://www.thriftcres.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Beacon_-Station-at-Loso-_-Retail-Leasing-Flyer.pdf

and that mural looks like many of the residents I have seen in that area LOL. 

 

 

[j-man]

Any word on this lot? I saw some movement going on here, and the construction fencing is gone. Or is this just from them wrapping up construction on the other side of the street of the two office buildings? 

Edited July 23, 2023 by j-man

[Guest]

This was the construction lay down area, so they are likely just cleaning up

[KJHburg]

I was in a state of confusion after I ate lunch  in this area but I got a good photo of the Loso Station office building.  This is one is almost fully leased including ground floor retail.  The other building is starting to lease up.

Edited October 21, 2023 by KJHburg

[KJHburg]

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