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[BnaBreaker]

What does that bring the downtown office vacancy rate down to?  Negative 1.5%?

[markhollin]

Tilted Kilt to be primary Broadway-facing club/restaurant and other Moxy Hotel news from today's Nashville Post:

Broadway Hotel LLC is targeting a March opening for its Moxy Hotel by Marriott to be located in SoBro. Originally, the 161-room boutique hotel was to have opened by the end of the year.

According to a source who asked to go unnamed, the building (formerly home to storage company Richards and Richards) will see tenant Tilted Kilt Pub and Eatery open by year’s end.

The Eddyville, Kentucky-based developer (which Barkley Lake Inn created for the adaptive reuse project) is adding two floors to the Richards and Richards building, located at both 215 Broadway and 110 Third Ave. S. The building will span six stories once completed. The Tilted Kilt will address Broadway.Codell Construction Co., also Eddyville based, is handling the work.

A small crane has been raised to begin work on the two-floor addition:
 

[markhollin]

11 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

What does that bring the downtown office vacancy rate down to?  Negative 1.5%?

According to just-released report from Cushman and Wakefield, the CBD, which has 4.5 percent Class A vacancy, has a 19.1 percent vacancy rate for Class B buildings.

More on the report posted in "Nashville Bits and Pieces" thread.

[RonCamp]

32 minutes ago, markhollin said:

Tilted Kilt to be primary Broadway-facing club/restaurant and other Moxy Hotel news from today's Nashville Post:

 

According to a source who asked to go unnamed, the building (formerly home to storage company Richards and Richards) will see tenant Tilted Kilt Pub and Eatery open by year’s end.

 

The Tilted Kilt will address Broadway.
 

Tilted Kilt?  Ugh.  A Hooters knockoff chain with locations in 30+ states is exactly what we need on Lower Broadway.  

[bigeasy]

42 minutes ago, RonCamp said:

Tilted Kilt?  Ugh.  A Hooters knockoff chain with locations in 30+ states is exactly what we need on Lower Broadway.  

Sooooo disappointing to see this being on Broadway. Now all we need is a Twin Peaks and we are good to go. 

 

[tragenvol]

2 minutes ago, bigeasy said:

Sooooo disappointing to see this being on Broadway. Now all we need is a Twin Peaks and we are good to go. 

 

But we're negative TK....since the store in Hendersonville closed.....great beer cheese....

Edited July 7, 2016 by tragenvol

[markhollin]

Jack Daniels to open first store outside of Lynchburg in Marathon Village:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2016/07/07/exclusive-jack-daniels-open-nashville-general-store/86811066/

Slide show showing some of the renderings inside and out here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2016/07/07/jack-daniels-set-to-open-nashville-retail-location.html#g5

[subkyle]

18 hours ago, bigeasy said:

Sooooo disappointing to see this being on Broadway. Now all we need is a Twin Peaks and we are good to go. 

 

My Lord I cannot agree more. Im confused. So the historical planning people are no ok with having a Walgreens on Broadway, but they are ok with putting in a suburban hooters knock off? At least the Walgreens offered a needed function. If we are truly prioritizing the feel and look of our tourist district we should not allow this imo.

[CenterHill]

27 minutes ago, subkyle said:

My Lord I cannot agree more. Im confused. So the historical planning people are no ok with having a Walgreens on Broadway, but they are ok with putting in a suburban hooters knock off? At least the Walgreens offered a needed function. If we are truly prioritizing the feel and look of our tourist district we should not allow this imo.

People get so confused by the roles the city and agencies like the Planning Commussion and the Metro Historical Commision play in development.      The Walgreens that was proposed for the now razed (by a pseudo developer) Trail West building was not opposed by city agencies.   In fact Walgreens put out a proposal to preserve and renovate the building in a historically sensitive manner.   Had it gone through the building would still be there today.    The Walgreens was opposed by a misguided metro council member who proposed an ordinance to restrict the types of businesses that could locate on lower Broad.    Her purpose was to "keep the chains out" and keep Lower Broad full of honky tonks and gift shops.    It was silly but was enough of a deterrent to run Walgreens off.    

[smeagolsfree]

That answers why they are called the hysterical commission. They are never focused on what they need to be focused on and ten to twenty years later in most cases. Too little too late.

The save Nashville history should have started 50 years ago and now not much left. I dare say that if the Utopia building had sat empty for much longer, it would not have been able to be saved.

Too many owners of the older buildings just didn't give a crap and never had any incentives to do anything. 

[PaulChinetti]

What are some awesome buildings that we have lost @smeagolsfree ? Are there any sites or anything out there that have cataloged history that we have lost? #busyfriday

[smeagolsfree]

OMG, that list can go back 60 years. I will rely on Field Marshall, Rooksy, and others to do a comprehensive list. 

[donNdonelson2]

Here is one for you. This beauty stood at the corner of 8th & Broad, where the Federal Courthouse stands today.

https://historicnashville.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/the-vauxhall/

Edited July 8, 2016 by donNdonelson2
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[CenterHill]

14 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

That answers why they are called the hysterical commission. They are never focused on what they need to be focused on and ten to twenty years later in most cases. Too little too late.

The save Nashville history should have started 50 years ago and now not much left. I dare say that if the Utopia building had sat empty for much longer, it would not have been able to be saved.

Too many owners of the older buildings just didn't give a crap and never had any incentives to do anything. 

I agree with your last statement, Ron, but I'm perplexed by your comments above it.     Saved by whom?     The city doesn't own these historic buildings (eg, the Utopia), private property owners do.    Cities and their historical commissions can't make property owners invest money to "save", restore, update or even use a property they own.    You and I are free to buy an old building, pay taxes on it but do absolutely nothing with it and let it rot if that's our intention.   Plenty of property owners do, for reasons only they could explain.     Or we can sell an old building to another buyer who can do what they want with it.   The only thing cities can do is enact zoning to try to steer, or deter, property owners in the direction of preservation.     At its most extreme, cities can enact historic zoning overlays over multiple properties in a geographic area, but ONLY if a majority of the affected property owners can agree to it.     Nashville has done a good bit of this where neighborhoods want it, but the city can't legally force it on property owners.   Cities can also adopt guidelines over historic districts, as Nashville has done on Lower Broad for example.    Then planning commissions and historic zoning agencies can use those guidelines when approving variances and issuing building permits.    

It's a common refrain on this board to call historic preservation advocates "hysterical", but I don't understand what exactly people think the role of these agencies or non-profits should be.    Would you give them the power, by statute or ordinance, to force individual property owners to invest money in their properties?   How would that work?   What if they refuse?   or don't have the capital?   How would you enforce it?     Imagine the outcry from property owners.   Anyway, it would amount to an unconstitutional taking of property and could never withstand legal challenge, but I'm just trying to understand the basis for the comments.     

 

[smeagolsfree]

I really think there could have been incentives to help save some of the building's in the past. Metro could have brought legislation 30 to 40 years ago and worked with property owners. There could have been grants and money set aside to buy the buildings.

That is what I meant there because we had no forward thinkers back when it was important.

Yes, as far as zoning. There are areas in some cities you can't demolish or make changes. NYC has several examples of this. At some point there has to be some preservation that trumps someproperty rights. Examples of this are actually in East Nashville.

[Nashvilletitans]

Most of the great old architectural buildings in downtown nashville were destroyed 50 plus years ago. Back then no one wanted old townhomes downtown (everyone moved to the sub burbs) they were falling apart so owners tore them down.  Many of nashvilles oldest large buildings in the 40's, 50's were out dated and were replaced with new ones like our court house.    It was't till the 70's after all the heavy urban renewal dust had settled and that we had fewer historic structures remaining that we realized we had to stop tearing down historic structures and we began renovating and protecting our old buildings.  Yes a few buildings have been torn down since the 70's but not many.   Nashville in the 70 and 80's have been promoting private owners to renovate historic structures with a fair amount of success.  It was not long ago (70's and 80's) that owning or having a business on lower broadway was not cool -it had adult movie houses and hookers.  Yet basically none of the buildings were town down.  Nashville it is lucky it has the historic district.  They could easily have been destroyed

Over the years the historic comm has played an important role in preserving neighborhoods. We can call them hysterical but there role has been critical to the big picture even though it is frustrating dealing with them first hand.   In terms of forward thinking government officials-My experience with that is that government officials like to make there mark with big projects of new projects, Titans stadium, The old convention center, downtown Library, bridgestone arena, the new convention center, riverfront park one and two....  Government officials have not been good at creating long term visions-they are good at creating short term legacies.

Broadway happened by a series of events over a long period of time including many factors.  

Edited July 9, 2016 by Nashvilletitans

[fieldmarshaldj]

7 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

What are some awesome buildings that we have lost @smeagolsfree ? Are there any sites or anything out there that have cataloged history that we have lost? #busyfriday

No definitive list in one particular place, though that's a good idea to assemble one somewhere. For starters, virtually every pre-Civil War building downtown (save the State Capitol and a few churches) and the original Fort Nashborough (not the recently demo'd mini-replica) is no longer extant. Virtually every townhouse/mansion is gone, ditto nearly every Second Empire structures.

Arguably, the greatest historical loss in the CBD is Polk Place (located on a large property where the former library and the ugly motel next door sit), which was President Polk's home and where he was interred. Polk had taken great pains to ensure his home would be preserved for future generations to visit (meaning he fully expected in 1849 that his mansion would still be standing as a museum in 2016), but after Mrs. Polk's death, squabbling relatives battled for control of the property and around 1900, they dug up both Polks, reinterred them in an obscure spot on Capitol Hill and leveled the mansion for an apartment building, Polk Flats (curiously, even the apartment building was a decent architectural gem, but it was leveled within a half century for the motor-court motel that is there today).

In the 1970s or '80s, then-Mayor Richard Fulton proposed acquiring the motel property and reconstructing Polk Place to serve as a museum. I still think that's a good idea and would honor the shamefully disregarded wishes of Pres. Polk.

[Nashvilletitans]

There are a few  lesson we have learned from the tearing down entire large sections of nashville original core.  

To creat Creat urban historic districts -with boundaries such as broadway, 2nd ave, .... with design guidelines, demolition controls, and infill guidelines. Hopefully  this zoning provides longterm protection of some of nashville's historic architecture.   One interesting twist is that the broadway historic area property has become some of the most valuable property in downtown nashville yet it has the most design restrictions on it of any neighborhood downtown and has the lowest density allowed in all of downtown.     WOW!   A good trend for historic districts and historic zoning.    

[markhollin]

The 5-story, 31-unit apartment building at 1000 Division Street that is nearing completion is to be called The James:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/homes/2016/07/08/leasing-underway-new-gulch-sobro-apartments-nashville/86861498/

[timmay143]

Vauxhall, one of my favorites!  To be rebuilt by this guy one day 

[titanhog]

Please tell me they're not allowing stuff like this downtown.   Let's not go all the way back to the Hee Haw days.

 

[markhollin]

The remodeling of the 222 Third Avenue North building into a 21c Museum boutique hotel continues.  The 1890s era structure is quite handsome on the outside.  Can only imagine how nice this will look on the interior when work is complete.

Looking south along Third Avenue North:

 

Looking inward toward the 2-story-tall lobby area from Third Avenue South main entrance:

 

Looking west down the alley from Third Avenue North toward Fourth Avenue North:

 

Looking upward at exterior work being done along the alleyway:

 

Looking SE toward the back entrance of the building along Fourth Avenue North:

[Nashvilletitans]

This is not good.  Looks like a real road hazard.  A way to make "trashy bucks" without having to spend millions to buy property or have a lease on broadway property.  Hope it is not legally allowed on roads downtown.  Hope they don't have a friend in our metro council

Edited July 10, 2016 by Nashvilletitans

[Nashvilletitans]

18 hours ago, timmay143 said:

Vauxhall, one of my favorites!  To be rebuilt by this guy one day 

you are so right.  there were so many great architectural buildings that are no more.  I to wish to see more historical diversity within city and especially our downtown.  Wow.  Vauxhall    Most of our new buildings architecturally do not attempt to have that level of detail or workmanship. 

I find it most interesting on this website that most of the talk and excitement is about scale of buildings and not about quality of a architecture of the new buildings. If Nashville is building 20 downtown high rises please lets demand more Vaux.   Even our new buildings can have more sophisticated levels of design.   30 story building design and considerations are not only seen within the context of the skyline but by the pedestrian, and users of the building.   Our new buildings can have the Vaux mentality but with modern functions and yes taller.

Edited July 10, 2016 by Nashvilletitans

[tragenvol]

8 hours ago, titanhog said:

Please tell me they're not allowing stuff like this downtown.   Let's not go all the way back to the Hee Haw days.

Saw it with my own eyes two Saturdays ago...jam packed with bachelor and bachelorette parties.