SouthPark neighborhood Projects

[SydneyCarton]

I really hope that the gas stations and BK at the corners of Fairview and Sharon get redeveloped.  They may have been appropriate in 1970 or 1980, but this area deserves something much nicer now.

[CLT_sc]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I really hope that the gas stations and BK at the corners of Fairview and Sharon get redeveloped.  They may have been appropriate in 1970 or 1980, but this area deserves something much nicer now.

Unfortunately, BK is currently being renovated.  I was hoping the demo would be forever, but I am guessing the power lines make this lot hard to do much with...wish we could bury those large lines.

The  intersection improvements will help, there will be a crosswalk design to dress it up some.  The Sharon View/Sharon intersection is currently being upgraded as a result of the Sharon Towers development.  The city is also looking at how to reduce the speeds between Sharon View and the Harris Y, it is a drag race in that area.

heard rumors that a new 10 story building will be proposed in SP, my guess is Novant.  

Anyone know who owns the 1970’s 2 story brick offices across from Phillips Place, could be a good site for a project.

[Madison Parkitect]

29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I really hope that the gas stations and BK at the corners of Fairview and Sharon get redeveloped.  They may have been appropriate in 1970 or 1980, but this area deserves something much nicer now.

What, you don't think the objectively worst fast food burger place belongs on the most prominent corner of the most high-end retail area in Charlotte?

[NCMike1990]

6 hours ago, Madison Parkitect said:

What, you don't think the objectively worst fast food burger place belongs on the most prominent corner of the most high-end retail area in Charlotte?

Don’t know about that but it is probably the worst place to get a taco.

[RiverwoodCLT]

Burger King and they have some construction going on now.

Edited October 23, 2019 by RiverwoodCLT

[Midwoodian]

Does anyone know when the stoplight and pedestrian enhancements at the intersection of Fairview and Valencia where the Ben and Jerry’s is will be implemented?

[J-Rob]

I heard a rumor the Siskey property might be redeveloped into something like upscale townhomes, or upscale "duets" and "triets".   I was a little surprised be this since I though Levine bought it so it wouldn't be developed, and I haven't heard any rumors of this on UP.  Anyone have any insight?

[nakers2]

On 10/22/2019 at 10:08 AM, tozmervo said:

It looks like several major intersections around South Park are getting pedestrian improvements next Spring, with more graphic crosswalks and sidewalk plazas. Kind of hard to tell what else is included (hopefully improved signaling), but even a small step is a step in the right direction.

https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Pages/EnhancedCrosswalks.aspx

Does anyone think a series of pedestrian bridges would be appropriate here? They could be made very elegant, include signage (Like Fairview/Sharon, or just "SouthPark") and it would make the crossings much safer while maintaining the massive traffic volume through here. 

[CLT2014]

10 minutes ago, nakers2 said:

Does anyone think a series of pedestrian bridges would be appropriate here? They could be made very elegant, include signage (Like Fairview/Sharon, or just "SouthPark") and it would make the crossings much safer while maintaining the massive traffic volume through here. 

Yeah, any improvements via a traditional crosswalk aren't going to solve the fact that you are walking across 8 lanes of traffic. It isn't and won't be a safe place to walk. The argument against a bridge is people would still just drive / waste of money because there isn't much to walk to at this corner with fast food, a Verizon, and gas stations.

For example: People circle the small top deck of the Whole Foods rather than go down in the underground garage multiple times to be "closest to the door." This type of mindset isn't going to all of a sudden start walking between Whole Foods and Nordstrom, even with a bridge.

Edited October 28, 2019 by CLT2014

[KJHburg]

what could define the Southpark area is some intersection enhancements.  I don't know what you call these but they are "floating" over the intersections in the Houston Galleria area (which they call uptown)    They have the names of the cross streets in bold letters and great lighting.  If you have ever been to the Houston Galleria you have seen them on Westheimer.

Here are some photos I found on them  something like this would good at the key intersections in SouthPark as for improving pedestrian experience bigger traffic refuge islands in the center so people could wait if they can only get half way.  

https://foursquare.com/v/intersection-of-westheimer--post-oak-blvd/4bce6646ef109521a1288486

[eastsider]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

what could define the Southpark area is some intersection enhancements.  I don't know what you call these but they are "floating" over the intersections in the Houston Galleria area (which they call uptown)    They have the names of the cross streets in bold letters and great lighting.  If you have ever been to the Houston Galleria you have seen them on Westheimer.

Here are some photos I found on them  something like this would good at the key intersections in SouthPark as for improving pedestrian experience bigger traffic refuge islands in the center so people could wait if they can only get half way.  

https://foursquare.com/v/intersection-of-westheimer--post-oak-blvd/4bce6646ef109521a1288486

People around here get all bent outta shape about power lines, now you want to hang more lines for that ugly floating signage? Keep it in Texas.

[nakers2]

3 hours ago, CLT2014 said:

Yeah, any improvements via a traditional crosswalk aren't going to solve the fact that you are walking across 8 lanes of traffic. It isn't and won't be a safe place to walk. The argument against a bridge is people would still just drive / waste of money because there isn't much to walk to at this corner with fast food, a Verizon, and gas stations.

For example: People circle the small top deck of the Whole Foods rather than go down in the underground garage multiple times to be "closest to the door." This type of mindset isn't going to all of a sudden start walking between Whole Foods and Nordstrom, even with a bridge.

I think as the area becomes more dense, that mindset will change, you have to think ahead, this city, like most, are always playing catch up, and people in Charlotte are so "trendy" that they'll try anything new just to tell their friends at the brewery. "Omg Karen, they have just the coolest thing in Southpark now, it's like this bridge, but for people! I can totally walk to the mall now, gotta get those steps in!" 

[QCxpat]

From today's (Friday 11/08/2019) Charlotte Ledger Business Newsletter - South Park isn't just a Mall anymore - adding walking trails - The Loop

Excerpt: "Big changes heading to SouthPark area:

- Demolition of Colony apartments starts in weeks

- Adding walking trails, possibly new park and theater

- Avoiding Eastland’s example: ‘evolve or die’

If you think of SouthPark mostly as a big regional mall, it’s time to change your thinking.

There’s a bunch of construction going on around the SouthPark area. In a few years, it will look and feel very different. It will have new hotels, apartments, shops, restaurants and office buildings, sure — but it also could have a new theater and a town center park. And it will have at least part of a three-mile circular pedestrian path completed — like a greenway or the rail trail — that will be known as “The Loop.”

Not just the mall: “You can say to your friends, ‘Hey, let’s just go to The Loop, and there will be things going on,” says Hilary Larsen, chairwoman of the SouthPark Association of Neighborhoods, a collection of nearby neighborhood groups. “When you get there, you’ll have ice cream, yoga, cool interactive art. What you really want is it to be some kind of an experience besides ‘Let’s go to the mall.’”

Some people don’t like all the construction and new apartments, she says. But it’s inevitable, so the best move for neighbors is to work with developers to make it palatable: “If you want things to be the way they were, then what you are really saying is you want SouthPark to become like Eastland ."

 

Link:  https://charlotteledger.substack.com/

Edited November 8, 2019 by QCxpat
add link to Charlotte Ledger

[SydneyCarton]

This is fantastic news!

[CTiger]

That is a really good idea.  I like how they have realized that the key to long term growth is to think of pedestrians first, which is I think the opposite of how Southpark was designed when it got built out.   Hopefully they come up with good ways to insulate the pedestrian traffic from vehicle traffic.    It is going to interact with two of the busiest roads in Charlotte, crossing Fairview twice and Sharon twice.  It would be great if they could make those intersections less daunting for pedestrians with bridges or underpasses.

[nicholas]

[CLT_sc]

One tower crane coming down at Apex.  But, looks like a large track crane is going up....maybe for parking garage?

[Cadi40]

When is the Colony redevelopment expected to start?

[CLT_sc]

28 minutes ago, Cadi40 said:

When is the Colony redevelopment expected to start?

Demo is supposed to start in December. The place looks empty.

[j-man]

On 10/22/2019 at 12:39 PM, Madison Parkitect said:

What, you don't think the objectively worst fast food burger place belongs on the most prominent corner of the most high-end retail area in Charlotte?

I find it weird that it hasn’t gone yet. Like a Burger Kind is literally surrounded by luxury hotels, apartments, restaurants and shopping lol. And a WholeFoods...like it’s time to say goodbye. 

[CLT_sc]

This may have already been posted previously, but since demo is schedule to start soon, I thought it would be good to see the renderings again?  These pics are the latest ones I have seen, anyone seen anything different?

https://www.charlotteagenda.com/148497/major-redevelopment-planned-for-the-colony-in-southpark/

Edited November 11, 2019 by CLT_sc

[Cadi40]

Personally I’m extremely excited for the Colony development, it’s a chance to attract some high end retailers.

[eastsider]

Crane coming down at Apex
 

AC Hotel

Hazel Southpark 

 

 

 

[CLT_sc]

New tower crane at Apex, maybe for hotel?

[KJHburg]

6 minutes ago, CLT_sc said:

New tower crane at Apex, maybe for hotel?

Maybe for the hotel or the church building both on the back side away from Sharon Rd.