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Anyone know what is going on Laurens Road next to the QT at 85? Choate is the contractor on it.

I am definitely in agreement, just pointing out the lines, as invisible as they may feel.

Not much actual substance...

I was more so referring to rhett st which seems to have stalled

This could be posted multiple places... https://upstatebusinessjournal.com/square-feet/whats-the-status-of-some-of-greenville-countys-largest-commercial-projects/

Maybe it will push some music venue projects forward.

Not far...but not close either. Would take a lot to get it there. Orange is the closest parcel I saw.

I also hate it but this is an extremely common national thing. I mean they sponsor Clemson's headsets for football. Many pro teams have hospital sponsors as well. The NY Giants for example dropped a NY hospital sponsor for a NJ sponsor in September of this past year. In Tampa the lightning are sponsored by advent (a non profit healthcare system).

Was eating at camp last night and notice a sign for a burger place under the ac hotel. Any idea if this is real or just a generic "this could be you" type sign?

The dead project has a shutdown notice on the sign for a long time, unsure what is happening there. The large parcel is apartments, and was part of the ask angelia column in the Greenville news about a month back: That northwest corner of Pelham and Haywood roads was approved for a planned development and will feature more than 300 apartment units. The development referred to as "Adam's Hill" or "Beacon Hill" was originally approved in 2019 by the Greenville City Council as a mixed-use commercial/retail, multifamily residential, and senior living development. The proposal at that time included a total of 450 units — 280 for multifamily and 170 for senior living — a parking rate of 1.3 spaces per unit, large building masses, and two corner parcels with approvals for a dental/medical use and sit-down restaurant, city records show. The Greenville News reported that the developer of the project, who'd also assembled the land for Haywood Mall and developed nearby Orchard Park, proposed $1.5 million worth of traffic improvements to alleviate congestion in exchange for the council's approval to rezone the property under the "planned development" zoning, which allows greater flexibility in exchange for more detailed city oversight. Developer Dan Bruce, said via phone recently, there were six traffic studies completed in regards to this project. The improvements planned, he said, "should help traffic." The project has been modified since its approval by the council. A modification approved in March 2020 resulted in the planned development having 382 multifamily units and no assisted living component, a city planning report said. A final development plan for phase 1 of the project, approved by the city planning commission in late 2020, proposed 320 residential units and more open space. Bruce said though the number of residential units have been scaled back, the final total is not yet absolute. He figures it will be close to 340. About 3.7 acres at the corner of Haywood and Pelham is still set for future development. A lot of restaurants desire to be there, Bruce said, but no decision has been made.

I agree, I think it would be a hard sell to many engineering students who want to be on campus and not live 45 minutes away from campus activities and friend groups.

I could see Clemson using the space as a research park, as currently planned but do not see them wanting a satellite campus in Greenville. They have a similar structure of institutes and research centers in other parts of the state (Coastal Ecology and Forest Science near Georgetown) but do not house students there. While I love the idea of having more of a university presence in Greenville I am not sure this is the correct step toward that. I think Clemson will continue to buy property surrounding the university as needed and push outward if they chose to keep expanding. I do believe they are losing there way however and should focus less on growth and more on maintaining the 25k range with excited students in their current environment. Soon it feels like downtown will be a part of the main campus.

GREENVILLE — The news that this would be the last year that Ice on Main operate in its current downtown location came just as the season began. Now, as the end of the season nears, it appears the popular skating rink will be back again next year. For 10 years, the rink has been a holiday staple in the compact courtyard between the downtown Marriott and City Hall. The hotel’s owner, Bo Aughtry, told City Council in November that he intended to remake the courtyard to accommodate two new restaurants and activate what he said was an underused space. However, the city and Aughtry drew up a deal in the first week of January to keep the rink in place for the foreseeable future while also redeveloping about one-third of the courtyard, Assistant City Manager Shannon Lavrin said. “They are going to do everything they can to try to accommodate the rink,” Lavrin told the city’s Design Review Board on Jan. 6 as the board delayed a vote on the new design of the courtyard. “It’s going to require some design and to look at how we utilize some of our other spaces for parts of what goes with the rink.” One possibility Aughtry had raised was to move the rink to the new city lawn in front of the Grand Bohemian Hotel at the edge of the eastern side of the Liberty Bridge in Falls Park. For the past 12 years, he said, his hotel group has provided space for Ice on Main without any obligation to do so in its contract with the city. At other times of the year, Aughtry said, the courtyard is underused. In November, Aughtry told the council that the skating rink that operates from just before Thanksgiving to Martin Luther King Jr. weekend needed “a shot in the arm” and a new location. Now, he said the rink’s location is important. “It is not an obligation on our part contractually,” he told the DRB. “We just felt like it was good for Greenville, and we still do. And we think it’s important that it can stay there and this space can be more activated year round.” The move comes as the city rethinks its idea of selling City Hall and moving operations to Falls Park. Mayor Knox White told The Post and Courier that the city could renovate the aging tower and keep a smaller presence there now that it has bought office space near Haywood Mall for a public safety headquarters that has extra space. In 2008, Aughtry bought an unsightly city parking garage that was once the location of the old City Hall and defied the construction headwinds of the Great Recession to build the Courtyard Marriott, White said. The deal came with a 20-year agreement to allow the city unrestricted access to the green space for 15 days a year, which, aside from Ice on Main, it has used sparingly for events like Artisphere and Fall for Greenville. The remake of the courtyard comes as Rick Erwin’s Nantucket Seafood restaurant closes and two dining establishments by Charleston’s The Indigo Road Hospitality Group take its place. One will be a sushi restaurant named O-Ku, and the other a wood-fired pizza and Italian establishment called Indaco. The outdoor area will have an open bar with ability to order food, along with lounge seating and a wood-fueled fireplace. The DRB delayed approval of the outdoor space design to address how a roof connected to the building would look and how private space will be delineated from the public realm.

Wow, This is good information, thank you all for that. I am currently living directly next to the city limits, may need to explore this more.

Can anyone help me understand the pros and cons from a property owners perspective on being annexed into the city? For instance the 2901 E North street property. What would that owner gain, aside from more tax burden and city trash pick up? I understand the pros for the city but am not sure on the private owner side.

Through the rumor mill I heard it would be a Truliant Credit Union

Army Navy store renovation in Greenville’s West End will keep historic sign By Eric Connor [email protected] Dec 24, 2021 The former location of the Greenville Army & Navy store in the West End will be renovated for new tenants but keep its historic sign. Provided/McMillan Pazdan Smith Provided/McMillan Pazdan Smith Subscribe today for $4 for 4 months GREENVILLE — The mainstay Greenville Army & Navy store has left the West End, but its name will remain even as the new owners of the historic building market it for tenants. Constructed at the turn of the 20th century, the building on the corner of South Main and River streets is due a renovation that has mostly cleared regulatory hurdles. The city’s Design Review Board approved plans that call for a sign bearing the name of the business to be restored and kept regardless of what tenants might come. The store operated at the prominent corner for seven decades before owner Jeff Zaglin sold the building for $1.34 million last December and moved to a shopping center on Laurens Road. The building was sold to an LLC affiliated with local convenience store chain Spinx Co.. A Spinx representative declined to comment on future plans Mayor Knox White told The Post and Courier that he couldn’t reveal details but that there currently is no tenant signed and “they are doing the right thing.” The store was opened in 1946 by a Jewish immigrant and sold military and other industrial gear throughout the West End’s rise and fall and rebirth. In recent years, the former warehouse district has become a trendy entertainment area and home to luxury condos and apartments. The store used the building’s first floor as retail space and the second story for storage, said Rob Couch, an architect with the McMillan Pazdan Smith firm that has designed the restoration. The new plans will create a second door on the storefront to access the second floor. New entrances will be cut into the side of the building that stretches along River Street. In its conditional approval, the Design Review Board approved the placement of a mural along the side of the building that would be reviewed by the city’s Arts in Public Places Commission. On the back side facing Boggs Street, a metal staircase will be built to access the second floor. The sign itself no longer conforms to the city’s sign guidelines, but the architect requested it be deemed as historically significant. The renovation will partly be funded by state and federal historic tax credits and must receive final approval by the State Historic Preservation Office. The National Parks Service deemed the building eligible for preservation status last March.

Y'all must have some insider information. I was hoping to read more and can't find it anywhere

Anderson Mall sold for $5.1mm. This comes after selling at foreclosure auction earlier this year for 3.5mm. The biggest shock to me was the 86% occupancy. I remember a few years ago seeing many empty storefronts in the mall.

I agree, although I have only been up here since 2014 I am enjoying all of the lights at night! Certainly more than in years past.

Didn't the music venue officially die or is it making a comeback?

https://www.avisonyoung.us/properties?propertyId=408-Jackson Click the PDF flyer on that page

Here is the full article for those curious:

Basically Spinx bought their own personal dirt dumping site for all of their upstate projects. Cool

Not sure this has a home, but the Delano has impressed DRB prior to their meeting on the 21st. https://www.postandcourier.com/greenville/business/first-major-development-attached-to-greenvilles-unity-park-on-track-with-design-blessing/article_08361b08-2df1-11ec-8129-bfff1e3bd5c8.html