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Counterpoint: who gives a crap. Whatever it takes them to get shovels in the dirt faster, do it. Rubber stamp every application. No need to look a gift horse in the mouth

Just dropping in from Raleigh to say this would be the biggest boost to my use of the rail to Charlotte. I don’t give a rip if the ticketing office is a pup tent, as long as it isn’t in the middle of nowhere with zero transit or pedestrian safety like the current station.

What is in the foreground of this picture? I thought the project booked for that lot was dead. Is that wrong?

points for enthusiasm but the whole thing is kind of a non-starter. I don’t think I’m being a cynic by saying that a minor league soccer stadium in Mauldin probably won’t make money. Very few publicly funded major league stadiums in major metros actually make money. It just never really made a whole lot of sense

I am really trying to understand how this makes sense and am drawing a blank. He will greedily use his own money instead of asking the city put it up? I’m a small sample size but I get the sense that developers are more popular when they don’t use public money.

Wow, a Hughes development with a large publicly funded anchor. What a novel concept!

**L’Internationale intensifies**

When I was a kid and my parents asked me to do something, I was always “just about to do it.” Take that with a grain of salt

I’m assuming this means there has been a development in the developer’s… um… legal troubles

The thing about Trump idiots is that other than being puerile, unoriginal, and inconsistent, they are also deeply, shockingly stupid

Speaking personally, I hate it because it looks like someone went to Florence, smoked crack, and then tried to recreate it by building a shopping mall. I know Phil Hughes has some weird Italian thing but this is taking it a little far. Why are the trying to replicate a ruin? I’m fairly certain this will end up looking more like a Tanger outlet mall but hey, go nuts

Looks dumb!

That was also famously lauded at the time as one of the most egregious public cash grabs in which Cobb County got fleeced, so, um, maybe not the best analogy

Any updates?

Did this ever get vertical construction started

Y’all got all worked up into a lather for this? Lol. For the most expensive Center for South-Mid-Atlantic Trade Shows/Exhibition of Homophobic Art in the 21st century it really leaves you wanting more

It’s been said on this forum before but the bowl and the change in grade that made the site so prime for an auditorium also make it really challenging for anything else. That’s why the ugly wall is up, so pedestrians and wayward cars don’t go crashing down 15 or so feet. It’s probably not totally insurmountable but I’m sure the geotechnical work and the nearly impossible traffic patterns mean that investors and developers would rather spend time and money on other projects. all those things seem also like they’d make it difficult to accommodate parking on the site necessary to meet any minimum requirements.

Imagine getting upset bc someone voluntarily renamed a shopping center with a Flying Biscuit. Lol what a loser

Yikes. Great point Ebenezer

I mean I’m fine with the incentive itself, it’s just hypocritical that it comes from the same people withholding federal benefits to force people into low wage jobs

Lol it’s not the developers getting the money it’s just the City that will turn around and use it to build the convention center that will both literally and figuratively prop up the rest of the development. Let’s be honest with each other here. The point is not that government incentives for development should be verboten. Far from it. But if the state should shovel money into convention centers to indirectly expand growth, it’s inconsistent to then say the state shouldn’t support things like unemployment insurance or things that directly benefit working people (and oh by the way positively affect the economy as well). In that case, the only thing that’s consistent is that the state works to benefit the Hughes and McMasters and good ol’ boys of the world while everyone else gets the shaft. The more things change the more they stay the same.

Wow, Foghorn Leghorn signing off on government cheese for lazy developers that don’t want to work. Sad

The unemployment benefits were enacted to help human well-being (you know, the ability to pay rent and buy food), and not to prop up the labor market. Complete apples and oranges. Most of the “data” used to justify these cuts are based on anecdotes, and in fact the science suggests it doesn’t matter: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/31/unemployment-boost-not-top-reason-people-do-or-do-not-work-yale-study.html. So when Marblemouth McMaster and the fat cats at the Chamber of Commerce say “my buddies think that none of you will work their $10.00 jobs because you’re getting UI, so nobody gets it anymore”, I’m less than pleased.

Sir, this is an Arby’s. seriously though I have walked that exact stretch of sidewalk many, many times, and there’s an infinitesimal chance that “West of Church Street” could possibly communicate with “East of Church Street” and so as long as the building focal point is toward he Bowater/Bohemian interchange you’re not losing out on much.