Ally Charlotte Center (f/k/a Tryon Place) - 26 floors - 427'

[Cadi40]

We need our Skyline to be more dense and sprawling, Then I predict a tower taller then BOA.

[SgtCampsalot]

18 minutes ago, Cadi40 said:

We need our Skyline to be more dense and sprawling, Then I predict a tower taller then BOA.

Sad!

[Cadi40]

1 minute ago, SgtCampsalot said:

Sad!

Pardon?

[nonillogical]

30 minutes ago, kermit said:

NC liquor laws make it even tougher than most places since they won't be able to sell liquor in most scenarios.

Only quibble: I'm not aware of any music venues in town where liquor ISN'T available, regardless of the show, except for maybe PNC Amphitheater. 

[kermit]

19 minutes ago, nonillogical said:

Only quibble: I'm not aware of any music venues in town where liquor ISN'T available, regardless of the show, except for maybe PNC Amphitheater. 

That is certainly possible, my live music days are mostly behind me but my last couple of shows at Amos' and the Visualite were liquor free IIRC. Have the laws requiring sales of a substantial amount of food or being a private club changed? It wasn't that long ago when those were the only options for any one wishing to sell mixed drinks.

 

[15895]

Where da Apple Store going?

[elrodvt]

2 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

NC Music Factory is doing very well, and they have numerous outdoor venues. But let me be frank here. NC Music Factory is very disconnected from the urban fabric of the city. The might as well be an island you have to get to by gondola. They are certainly an extremely valuable asset for the region, but its impossible to walk to and it doesn't fit the mold/cache of what exactly I'm looking for. 

I've actually walked there several times. You meet the most interesting people taking the shortcut over the tracks. ;-)

[nonillogical]

47 minutes ago, kermit said:

That is certainly possible, my live music days are mostly behind me but my last couple of shows at Amos' and the Visualite were liquor free IIRC. Have the laws requiring sales of a substantial amount of food or being a private club changed? It wasn't that long ago when those were the only options for any one wishing to sell mixed drinks.

Those laws always seemed really laxly enforced to me, but I think that once you pay admission for a show, it meets the private club criteria. If I remember right, the liquor at Visulite is below the counter while the wall is all beer, so you may have just not seen it. 

[SgtCampsalot]

1 hour ago, Cadi40 said:

Pardon?

Sorry, I was trying to parody Twitter.

I just mean the BoA tower is so iconic, symbolic (a Crown for the "Queen City"?), and perfect placement for being right at the center of Uptown at Trade & Tryon, I'd hate to see anything upstage it. 

Edited September 29, 2017 by SgtCampsalot

[elrodvt]

I would a lot rather have 5 more of these simple re-use projects than an office tower. This turned out really nice and I love the tenants.

 

[Cadi40]

28 minutes ago, SgtCampsalot said:

Sorry, I was trying to parody Twitter.

I just mean the BoA tower is so iconic, symbolic (a Crown for the "Queen City"?), and perfect placement for being right at the center of Uptown at Trade & Tryon, I'd hate to see anything upstage it. 

LOL You're fine! I just didn't understand. And I do agree the BOA tower is very Iconic, It's the U.S. Bank Tower of the Southeast.

[KJHburg]

Under the bridge in the above photo RDF posted  is where CSX and Norfolk Southern lines cross.  There is no way get light rail over there but they could do a shuttle like the old Gold Rush during the day and evening that could work if NC Music Factory would help with it. 

Edited September 29, 2017 by KJHburg

[kermit]

The music factory is perhaps the most difficult place ever to serve by transit. The proposed multiuse trail that will be build along the tracks around Gateway station may help a bit (particularly in combination w robust bikeshare capacity). 

Alternatively, you could build the most expensive and ridiculous streetcar line ever that would connect Gold Line phase 2 at 5 points, to the NCMF (after crossing an incredibly expensive bridge over the interstate) to Camp North End to NoDa and then Plaza Central. It would be silly, incredibly expensive and not connect much to much but I love some fantasy transit.  (the dots on the map are not intended to be stops)

Edited September 29, 2017 by kermit

[caterpillar2]

Can't say the I believe that there is anything promissing  about this "fantasy transit" route.  the biggest fantasy would be that it would be a pleasant, safe ride But, that is only my opinion. I am sure that most people , especially unescorted young ladies, would feel perfectly fine. .  How did we get on to this from "Tryon-place-crescent-project-at-Try-and-stonewall? 

Edited September 29, 2017 by caterpillar2

[Higgs Boson]

They should make a direct connection through the cemetery into NCMF (I like how no one refers to it as Avidxchange Music Factory).   For instance, make North Cedar connect with one of the paths in the cemetary and turn it into a nice pedestrian only street that connects right over into NCMF BLVD.  That way, you don't have to move any graves.  You can throw some lights in there...

 

[Norm2]

10 hours ago, Higgs Boson said:

They should make a direct connection through the cemetery into NCMF (I like how no one refers to it as Avidxchange Music Factory).   For instance, make North Cedar connect with one of the paths in the cemetary and turn it into a nice pedestrian only street that connects right over into NCMF BLVD.  That way, you don't have to move any graves.  You can throw some lights in there...

 

Take a romantic stroll through the graveyard in the middle of the night....yeeeeaaaa......

[elrodvt]

^It is a nice walk through there during the day though. 

[Guest]

Take a romantic stroll through the graveyard in the middle of the night....yeeeeaaaa......

It's a nice nighttime walk honestly, at least it was when I was a teenager


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[SgtCampsalot]

Cemeteries are the loveliest places to stroll. So peaceful and reverent, it's calming af

Edited October 2, 2017 by SgtCampsalot

[BullDurhamer]

i've said it before and i'll say it again.

parks are better served for the living than the dead.  move the dead so the living can use this space.  

[J-Rob]

Seems like we steered off topic (to a creepy topic I might add).

Lets revisit the Ally Charlotte Center, lol.  Does anyone know if this is designed to potentially have two floors added a la BOAT?  In the same way that BOAT looked better stretched out, I wonder if this tower might be more appealing if it was stretched out by 2 more floors. @ricky_davis_fan_21, I think you mentioned you were going to write a review/critique of the new Tryon Place.  Did that ever hit the stands? If so, I missed it.

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, J-Rob said:

Seems like we steered off topic (to a creepy topic I might add).

Lets revisit the Ally Charlotte Center, lol.  Does anyone know if this is designed to potentially have two floors added a la BOAT?  In the same way that BOAT looked better stretched out, I wonder if this tower might be more appealing if it was stretched out by 2 more floors. @ricky_davis_fan_21, I think you mentioned you were going to write a review/critique of the new Tryon Place.  Did that ever hit the stands? If so, I missed it.

haha, I've been sorta busy at my day job, and something just dropped on my lap about the Polk Building that I have to write first. I personally think the building would look a little better proportioned if it were stretched out a few floors, but not like Covfefe Plaza.

[videtur quam contuor]

Oh no. No, no, no. No,No, No. The living use this space now. The purpose of a cemetery is to serve the living not the dead. To serve them with compassion, honor and dignity.

My space is there, my sister is there (as disclosure.)

9 hours ago, BullDurhamer said:

i've said it before and i'll say it again.

parks are better served for the living than the dead.  move the dead so the living can use this space.  

 

Yes this is off topic I could not let this pass

Edited October 3, 2017 by tarhoosier

[Windsurfer]

4 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

haha, I've been sorta busy at my day job, and something just dropped on my lap about the Polk Building that I have to write first. I personally think the building would look a little better proportioned if it were stretched out a few floors, but not like Covfefe Plaza.

Polk Building, eh?   I noticed some boring tests being made today.....  Do tell..

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Windsurfer said:

Polk Building, eh?   I noticed some boring tests being made today.....  Do tell..

well if they are doing some bore testing, I better hurry up with the article lol.