CONSTRUCTION THREAD: Magnolia Park Town Center

[mallguy]

OK, fair enough.  Magnolia Park isn't "high-profile"; I'd say that Main Street is.  Magnolia Park is definitely visible, which is my concern.

[gman]

My post about Cabela's is not ignorant. (I am not a redneck at all.)  Having that store in that location is embarrassing to Greenville, as is the NASCAR Hall of Fame in Charlotte.  Both feed into negative stereotypes about the South and create an image that Greenville has worked so hard to overcome.

Do yourself a favor and at least open the attachment I posted earlier showing Cabelas locations. If you do your homework, you will apologize for making a stupid comment.

[motonenterprises]

Looks very good there to me. I like it's lighting. Outdoorsy is not automatically redneck.

Soon enough you'll have Dave and Busters there, so maybe that'll lower the redneck feel you think it has.

[russwd]

I think we need a Duck Dynasty store... it's the upscale riff raff that bother me.

[mallguy]

Do yourself a favor and at least open the attachment I posted earlier showing Cabelas locations. If you do your homework, you will apologize for making a stupid comment.

 

Please read my post, from 3:54pm.  I already looked over the map of Cabela's locations.  As I already posted, few if any are in high-profile, affluent locations.

 

You should do some research about Cabela's customer demographics and you would see that its target customer base is relatively older, lower-income and less-educated than national averages (i.e., rednecks).  (That information is easily available in investor presentations by Cabela's that are all over the Internet and in its SEC filings.)  Having that kind of store at a very visible location to outsiders creates an image of Greenville as a place where people like that live...which isn't what people who care about Greenville and its future want to project.

Edited January 2, 2014 by mallguy

[William01]

Is the regal cinemas going to renovate the exterior of the theater? It needs to paint the outside to match with the new buildings being built around it. 

[gman]

Please read my post, from 3:54pm.  I already looked over the map of Cabela's locations.  As I already posted, few if any are in high-profile, affluent locations.

 

You should do some research about Cabela's customer demographics and you would see that its target customer base is relatively older, lower-income and less-educated than national averages (i.e., rednecks).  (That information is easily available in investor presentations by Cabela's that are all over the Internet and in its SEC filings.)  Having that kind of store at a very visible location to outsiders creates an image of Greenville as a place where people like that live...which isn't what people who care about Greenville and its future want to project.

Diversity is a beautiful thing. 

[motonenterprises]

Please read my post, from 3:54pm. I already looked over the map of Cabela's locations. As I already posted, few if any are in high-profile, affluent locations. You should do some research about Cabela's customer demographics and you would see that its target customer base is relatively older, lower-income and less-educated than national averages (i.e., rednecks). (That information is easily available in investor presentations by Cabela's that are all over the Internet and in its SEC filings.) Having that kind of store at a very visible location to outsiders creates an image of Greenville as a place where people like that live...which isn't what people who care about Greenville and its future want to project.

Both Atlanta and Charlotte have Bass Pro in their msa. Neither feels that way too me.

[gman]

Good commentary on what stores like Bass Pro can do for a local economy. By the way, there is nothing "redneck" about the Charleston area.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20140105/PC16/140109726/1177/north-charleston-fishing-for-bass-catches-a-whale-and-a-little-controversy

[mallguy]

Both Atlanta and Charlotte have Bass Pro in their msa. Neither feels that way too me.

They do indeed have Bass Pros (outside their cores), and neither feels redneck to me either.

 

No MSA is entirely "redneck" or entirely "non-redneck" (or entirely any specific demographic).  Each MSA is a mix of upper-income, lower-income, well-raised and non-well-raised people.  Atlanta and Charlotte both are affluent enough that their MSAs do not feel "redneck", but, believe me, as someone who spent a long time living in Charlotte, there are rednecks in the MSA--just not enough to dominate the atmosphere.

 

My concern about Cabela's signage is that it signals, in a highly visible location, that Greenville is a largely redneck MSA.  It's certainly not. 

Edited January 5, 2014 by mallguy

[goodbye]

Does Trader Joe's scream "redneck"? What about REI, Whole Foods Market, World Market, Starbucks, etc.? No reason for concern. Many wealthy outdoorsmen and women shop at stores like Cabela's. We needed more options for fly fishing supplies in town anyway.

[StrangeCock]

I'm pretty sure having a YardHouse in the same development will erase any concerns about being too rednecky.

[vicupstate]

Tavern 24 has closed. 

[gman430]

Tavern 24 has closed.

They weren't in Magnolia Park.

[russwd]

Just had a pretty good meal there during the holidays. Couldn't get in to Outback, Carolina Ale House, or Quaker Steak on a Saturday night but walked right in and sat down at Tavern 24.  That should have told me something.

[William01]

Looks like they have fenced off part of the regal cinemas entrance. I am guessing its for construction on Yard House and Toby Keiths. I wonder what the 22,000sq.ft. building to the right of cabelas will be?Wasnt it supposed to be a hotel?I am also anxious to learn about the other retail and entertainment tenants. 

[gman430]

Correct. A building permit was filed on January 6th for new construction at Magnolia Park.

Edited January 17, 2014 by gman430

[William01]

Looks like more tenants have signed leases. Another Broken Egg Cafe, Grimaldi's Brick Oven Pizzeria, and Scottrade. SOURCE:GREENVILLEJOURNAL

[gman430]

With the good leasing going on, I really hope Menin adds the parking garage back and decides to develop the parking lot in front of and beside Hollywood 20 in the future.

[russwd]

No parking garage?  I missed that one.  I guess they are running a little behind on site plan updates.

 

http://www.magnoliapark.com/site-plan/

[William01]

Im anxious to see what the other tenants will be. Also, i wonder if they plan on a future phase to the right of regal cinemas...

[William01]

Pier 1 Imports for MagnoliaPark. Other tenants are unreadable.http://www.collett.biz/Content/Uploads/collett/Properties/Magnolia-Park-Flyer-02-10-14-reduced.pdf

[gman430]

Cabela's opens April 3rd.

[RiverWalker]

Has anyone else noticed the image on the Magnolia Park web site with John, George, Paul and Ringo in the crosswalk? http://www.magnoliapark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/image8.jpg

[Galley]

Has anyone else noticed the image on the Magnolia Park web site with John, George, Paul and Ringo in the crosswalk? http://www.magnoliapark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/image8.jpg

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