WNBA franchise in Nashville

[rolly]

They shouldn't discriminate by gender.  Women are part of the military.  The police force.   

But somehow pro/corporate sports is allowed to segregate the women from inclusion? 

[DDIG]

27 minutes ago, rolly said:

They shouldn't discriminate by gender.  Women are part of the military.  The police force.   

But somehow pro/corporate sports is allowed to segregate the women from inclusion? 

Huh?

[titanhog]

52 minutes ago, rolly said:

They shouldn't discriminate by gender.  Women are part of the military.  The police force.   

But somehow pro/corporate sports is allowed to segregate the women from inclusion? 

Well…they’re already being subsidized by the NBA and would not exist in its current form without the NBA giving them major $$$$$.

[rolly]

12 hours ago, titanhog said:

Well…they’re already being subsidized by the NBA and would not exist in its current form without the NBA giving them major $$$$$.

But that's still segregation by gender.  Separate, and VERY unequal.

When women work in the police force, they stand along men.  Same in the military.    And paid at the same rate as men.   But pro/corporate sports are exempt?

[subkyle]

3 hours ago, rolly said:

But that's still segregation by gender.  Separate, and VERY unequal.

When women work in the police force, they stand along men.  Same in the military.    And paid at the same rate as men.   But pro/corporate sports are exempt?

Apple meet orange. Does all lawyers make the same? Do all doctors make the same? This is not a government job, the amount of payroll that is allowable completely depends on gross sales for any for profit company. The wnba employees should be grateful that they even can exist due to being gifted money to pay the bills. 

[titanhog]

3 hours ago, rolly said:

But that's still segregation by gender.  Separate, and VERY unequal.

When women work in the police force, they stand along men.  Same in the military.    And paid at the same rate as men.   But pro/corporate sports are exempt?

I’m not sure if you’re being serious…or being facetious. 

[smeagolsfree]

I know better than to dig a hole here. It is a hole you can't get out of>There are subjects I know to leave alone because it is a no-win situation!

[satalac]

I'll bite. Policing can be taught. Being a soldier can be taught. Being able to guard a 6'9 250lb LeBron James takes a bit more than teaching, it takes physical ability. If you want to look at physiology, you'll notice the difference in male and females. Now I'm not saying, yes, let's segregate people based on gender in sports, but it just naturally works out that way. It's nothing against either gender, it's just the reality of things. 

[shanky]

Professional sports is a meritocracy.  Inclusion, fairness are not given any consideration.  Either you can play it at a certain level or you can't.  

[Rick Dalton]

42 minutes ago, shanky said:

Professional sports is a meritocracy.  Inclusion, fairness are not given any consideration.  Either you can play it at a certain level or you can't.  

This is correct, end of discussion 

[rolly]

On 10/20/2022 at 3:52 PM, satalac said:

I'll bite. Policing can be taught. Being a soldier can be taught. Being able to guard a 6'9 250lb LeBron James takes a bit more than teaching, it takes physical ability. If you want to look at physiology, you'll notice the difference in male and females. Now I'm not saying, yes, let's segregate people based on gender in sports, but it just naturally works out that way. It's nothing against either gender, it's just the reality of things. 

Coach can decide to post another male on a player like LeBron. But in other positions, female players may be better utilized as shooters or point guards.  It's up to the team.

To see how meeting diversity goals is handled by other organizations, look at how the US Marines use different standards for females. The guys do 34 push-ups in 2 mins vs just 15 for the gals. It's called 'accommodations'. 

When pro sports finally aren't allowed to prohibit people based on gender, then you'll see accommodations such as the ladies get 4 points for the long shot where the guys just get 3.  That way the ladies will be included and make the same big bucks as the guys. Note female Marines, despite only having to meet a third of the physical test levels as the men, still get paid the same as the men.  You'll see that in the NBA as well.  

So will this happen before WNBA comes to Nashville? That's the question.

[titanhog]

3 minutes ago, rolly said:

Coach can decide to post another male on a player like LeBron. But in other positions, female players may be better utilized as shooters or point guards.  It's up to the team.

To see how meeting diversity goals is handled by other organizations, look at how the US Marines use different standards for females. The guys do 34 push-ups in 2 mins vs just 15 for the gals. It's called 'accommodations'. 

When pro sports finally aren't allowed to prohibit people based on gender, then you'll see accommodations such as the ladies get 4 points for the long shot where the guys just get 3.  That way the ladies will be included and make the same big bucks as the guys. Note female Marines, despite only having to meet a third of the physical test levels as the men, still get paid the same as the men.  You'll see that in the NBA as well.  

So will this happen before WNBA comes to Nashville? That's the question.

I'm still not sure if you’re being facetious or serious. 

[MontanaGuy]

1 hour ago, rolly said:

Coach can decide to post another male on a player like LeBron. But in other positions, female players may be better utilized as shooters or point guards.  It's up to the team.

Nobody's talking about mixing males and females on the same team.  Women basketball can be very exciting and there's some great players, I'd like to see professional teams really catch on but the difficulty is that the market is already saturated with all kinds of male sports that have many decades of history and lifelong fans.  It won't be easy for professional women's sports to gain that kind of popularity but it's still possible. 

[Sean blackdog]

Check out this article from Tennessean:

Nashville is WNBA expansion possibility by 2025, commissioner Cathy Engelbert says

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/2023/06/09/wnba-commissioner-nashville-possible-expansion-city/70307029007/

I can’t open. Paywall. 

[markhollin]

^ ^ ^ Here's the article.  Not much new to report.

Commissioner Cathy Engelbert said the WNBA could add two teams by 2025 and Nashville is on the list being considered.

Engelbert, speaking at the Sports Business Journal Brand Innovation Summit, mentioned Nashville along with Denver, Austin, Philadelphia, Toronto, San Francisco and Charlotte as cities the league is considering for expansion.

"There's a lot of cities on the list," Engelbert said. "Now you don't want to derogate the quality of the game and just add teams to add teams. So we wanted to make sure we were in a good position with the transformation to add those teams."

When asked about the timeline for expansion Engelbert said, "We're getting there. I'm hoping in 2025 we add a couple of teams and then we'll see how it goes then thereafter."

Last October, Engelbert first announced the league was considering expansion beyond its current 12 teams. That came soon after Nashville's Sports Authority Board commissioned a study to gauge local resident, tourist and advertiser interest in having a professional women's sports team.

The study revealed there was significant interest in women's professional sports in Nashville but that an WNBA team would need an investor group willing to cover team expenses and a location for its games. 

"I definitely am hopeful we will be able to indicate what a strong market Nashville is for women's basketball," said Margaret Behm, who served on the Sports Authority committee. "We’ve done the work so that we'll have information to show the WNBA that this area loves women's basketball."

Nashville's initial interest in the WNBA came in 2021 when Convention & Visitors Corp president and CEO Butch Spyridon mentioned what it would take to bring a franchise here.

“We would love to see a professional women’s team to call Nashville home," Spyridon told The Tennessean. "Available venue space and a majority owner are key next steps.”