LOCAL and Florida Politics

[jrs2]

On 4/5/2024 at 9:01 PM, JFW657 said:

Trump's "America first" platform is little more than an empty slogan to rope in the suckers. Trump's real platform is "Trump first and everything else second". He'd sell us out faster than a pimp would sell his top money maker if it benefitted him enough. 

And BTW, more jobs have been created under Biden than under Trump and Biden's economy is better.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-vs-trump-on-the-economy-and-the-winner-is-164241570.html

I do agree that DeSantis is not as far out of step with average Americans as was claimed, at least on some issues.

But on others, like abortion and some other privacy issues, he's just pushing a far right agenda to pander to Trump voters. 

"would" denotes future conduct....  anyone can speculate about future conduct.  But with regard to track records ala "selling us out,"...

Nobody does it better than Biden, and the LEGAL voters see that.

Nobody sells us out better than a guy that allows a Chinese spy balloon to traverse the entire continental US...writes it off as  some random weather BS- and then we see the same type of high altitude spy balloon fly over Taiwan after their anti-China election results this past January... And then during this time we see how Biden clan received money from Chinese companies and/or government.  Even without the money, the allowance of the Chinese spy balloon would have gotten any other non-Leftist arrested for treason and his complicit party and media investigated for same.  But, Lenin's Communist Manifesto holds true today as it did in the 1920's:  the quickest way to take over a country is through its colleges and media.

better go shine up that blue and yellow lapel pin and wear it with pride like the rest of the drones...

[Ivanhoe]

1 hour ago, orange87 said:

DeSantis signs bill requiring civilians to be at least 25 feet away from police in order to legally record them in public; the bill also limits authority of civilian boards to investigate police

Article: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/04/12/desantis-signs-bills-targeting-civilian-review-boards-recording-police-up-close/?utm_email=D4DA7471A48D34B56503A4C30A&lctg=D4DA7471A48D34B56503A4C30A&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2f2024%2f04%2f12%2fdesantis-signs-bills-targeting-civilian-review-boards-recording-police-up-close%2f&utm_campaign=trib-orlando_sentinel-dont_miss-nl&utm_content=alert

As if that will hold up in court.  DeShameless appears to have a legitimate authoritarian edge over Trump. 

[jrs2]

On 2/22/2024 at 10:03 PM, JFW657 said:

Probably mostly for show, anyway. 

Maybe this will spark the creation of a kids only platform in which adults will have to lie about their age to get access. 

it's funny but terrible at the same time

On 3/28/2024 at 4:15 PM, shardoon said:

 

This is literally common sense. Does anyone know the vote tally in the Florida legislature on this? I would assume it was close to unanimous. Why are other states dragging their feet. They see the injustices that have been done. There are countless examples in the press. One lady now has a criminal record over trying to get her house back in NY. 

 

It's just like the damn daylight savings and doing away with the roll back. Everyone wants it. Literally bipartisan support (not fake bipartisan support with a few switching sides), this is 90+% supporting, passes one house, and the other just let's it wither. WTF

 

 

housing equity.  economic redistribution. leftism.

pick your poison.

[JFW657]

7 hours ago, jrs2 said:

"would" denotes future conduct....  anyone can speculate about future conduct.  But with regard to track records ala "selling us out,"...

Nobody does it better than Biden, and the LEGAL voters see that.

Nobody sells us out better than a guy that allows a Chinese spy balloon to traverse the entire continental US...writes it off as  some random weather BS- and then we see the same type of high altitude spy balloon fly over Taiwan after their anti-China election results this past January... And then during this time we see how Biden clan received money from Chinese companies and/or government.  Even without the money, the allowance of the Chinese spy balloon would have gotten any other non-Leftist arrested for treason and his complicit party and media investigated for same.  But, Lenin's Communist Manifesto holds true today as it did in the 1920's:  the quickest way to take over a country is through its colleges and media.

better go shine up that blue and yellow lapel pin and wear it with pride like the rest of the drones...

I base my opinion about what Trump will do on his prior conduct like Russian collusion, sucking up to dictators, asking Russia to find Hillary's emails and inviting them to do whatever the hell they want to NATO countries who fail to pony up enough of their GDP for the UN, and his general attitude and demeanor. 

As for the Chinese spy balloon, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we let it go as far as it did on purpose, while feeding it false intelligence and/or monitoring what it was trying to find out about us. I wouldn't be surprised if we got more intelligence data out of it than it got out of us. The CIA are a tricky bunch. 

During his presidency, Donald Trump accepted $7.8 million from foreign countries, most of which was from China. Biden is alleged to have gotten $40k. 

Better go launder that red and white MAGA hat and wear it with pride like the rest of the drones...      

[jrs2]

On 4/12/2024 at 9:59 PM, JFW657 said:

I base my opinion about what Trump will do on his prior conduct like Russian collusion, sucking up to dictators, asking Russia to find Hillary's emails and inviting them to do whatever the hell they want to NATO countries who fail to pony up enough of their GDP for the UN, and his general attitude and demeanor. 

As for the Chinese spy balloon, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we let it go as far as it did on purpose, while feeding it false intelligence and/or monitoring what it was trying to find out about us. I wouldn't be surprised if we got more intelligence data out of it than it got out of us. The CIA are a tricky bunch. 

During his presidency, Donald Trump accepted $7.8 million from foreign countries, most of which was from China. Biden is alleged to have gotten $40k. 

Better go launder that red and white MAGA hat and wear it with pride like the rest of the drones...      

Biden's treason is unequaled in US history.  But...whatever makes you sleep better at night.  Chinese spy balloons six busses in size and a balloon the size of one or more football fields? Now sprinkle in Obama's (I mean Biden's) open border leftist policy, allowing thousands of Chinese military aged males in.  And the money the Bidens got from China. And the go green policy that benefits only China. Now stitch that rotten liver together and you get obvious treason only a heroin addict would ignore...or pot smoker only interested in getting high. 

I've got an unused bumper sticker just like the one in the photo for ya...to go with your lapel pin.  Great job of doubling and tripling down on Hillary and Schiff's flatulence.   It's pretty clear why Biden has a...pecuniary...interest in Ukraine...and how the media covers it up and has their own brand of drones repeat their obvious degree of propaganda. Hillary started the collusion conspiracy knowing the Biden corruption while BHO was prez.  How devious. Her 33k emails and Weiner's 500k emails ala Huma Abedin were nothing compared to this, and BHO's Eff Bee Eye made sure of it.  And you wonder why there was a Trump landslide?

Laundering money through Ukraine while toppling their government and inserting neo nazis?  Well, it fits, since nazis are leftist socialists.  All leftists stand together, right.  Except with post-Soviet Russia.  As Russians first, they got burned way too many times by Germany, the Nazis, and the Leftists in their own country, and this permeated the post-Soviet DNA.  Nazis in Germany; neonazis in Ukraine.  Maybe that's why Putin snuffed out his political opposition as leftist C1A shills and had them taken out while the MSM cries foul as their leftist plans keep falling flat. But, hey, they still have people like you fighting the good fight on their behalf.

Not even Germany wants to have anything to do with Ukraine even though tranny lover in France makes bold statements.   NATO better pay up, because up until now, they've been living in the lap of Socialist luxury with our money while we've been paying for their defense.  

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, jrs2 said:

Biden's treason is unequaled in US history.  But...whatever makes you sleep better at night.  Chinese spy balloons six busses in size and a balloon the size of one or more football fields? Now sprinkle in Obama's (I mean Biden's) open border leftist policy, allowing thousands of Chinese military aged males in.  And the money the Bidens got from China. And the go green policy that benefits only China. Now stitch that rotten liver together and you get obvious treason only a heroin addict would ignore...or pot smoker only interested in getting high. 

I've got an unused bumper sticker just like the one in the photo for ya...to go with your lapel pin.  Great job of doubling and tripling down on Hillary and Schiff's flatulence.   It's pretty clear why Biden has a...pecuniary...interest in Ukraine...and how the media covers it up and has their own brand of drones repeat their obvious degree of propaganda. Hillary started the collusion conspiracy knowing the Biden corruption while BHO was prez.  How devious. Her 33k emails and Weiner's 500k emails ala Huma Abedin were nothing compared to this, and BHO's Eff Bee Eye made sure of it.  And you wonder why there was a Trump landslide?

Laundering money through Ukraine while toppling their government and inserting neo nazis?  Well, it fits, since nazis are leftist socialists.  All leftists stand together, right.  Except with post-Soviet Russia.  As Russians first, they got burned way too many times by Germany, the Nazis, and the Leftists in their own country, and this permeated the post-Soviet DNA.  Nazis in Germany; neonazis in Ukraine.  Maybe that's why Putin snuffed out his political opposition as leftist C1A shills and had them taken out while the MSM cries foul as their leftist plans keep falling flat. But, hey, they still have people like you fighting the good fight on their behalf.

Not even Germany wants to have anything to do with Ukraine even though tranny lover in France makes bold statements.   NATO better pay up, because up until now, they've been living in the lap of Socialist luxury with our money while we've been paying for their defense.  

TL/DR.

Seriously.

Try to winnow your thoughts down to a few precise, cogent sentences that express your level of right-wing, pro-Trump brainwashed fealty without requiring readers to slog through all that wacky, conspiracy goofball driven folderol. 

[jrs2]

23 hours ago, JFW657 said:

TL/DR.

Seriously.

Try to winnow your thoughts down to a few precise, cogent sentences that express your level of right-wing, pro-Trump brainwashed fealty without requiring readers to slog through all that wacky, conspiracy goofball driven folderol. 

fealty is a good word.

yes I ramble...but it was early in the am and my neck was sore...

[orange87]

POLL: 56% of Florida voters back marijuana legalization ballot measure; doesn't have enough support to pass

Article: https://www.marijuanamoment.net/florida-marijuana-legalization-ballot-measure-does-not-have-enough-support-to-pass-new-poll-says/

[jrs2]

2 hours ago, orange87 said:

POLL: 56% of Florida voters back marijuana legalization ballot measure; doesn't have enough support to pass

Article: https://www.marijuanamoment.net/florida-marijuana-legalization-ballot-measure-does-not-have-enough-support-to-pass-new-poll-says/

that's too bad, because I know one person that slapped their mug on one brand, and, the other, whom I don't know personally, is a supplier- I believe that is out of Seminole and advertises on PH...a lot...  Chronic Guru.

what is the threshold percentage needed?

[shardoon]

18 hours ago, jrs2 said:

that's too bad, because I know one person that slapped their mug on one brand, and, the other, whom I don't know personally, is a supplier- I believe that is out of Seminole and advertises on PH...a lot...  Chronic Guru.

what is the threshold percentage needed?

60%

[orange87]

DeSantis Will Be ‘Getting Involved’ In Effort To Defeat Marijuana Measure On Florida Ballot

Article: https://www.marijuanamoment.net/desantis-will-be-getting-involved-in-effort-to-defeat-marijuana-measure-on-florida-ballot/

[Ivanhoe]

4 hours ago, orange87 said:

DeSantis Will Be ‘Getting Involved’ In Effort To Defeat Marijuana Measure On Florida Ballot

Article: https://www.marijuanamoment.net/desantis-will-be-getting-involved-in-effort-to-defeat-marijuana-measure-on-florida-ballot/

He must be the life of a party.

[jrs2]

Colorado has some strong "stuff" that will complete the task that CERN is attempting to accomplish...

[orange87]

Bill awaiting DeSantis’ OK would end years of renewable energy policies

Article: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/05/03/bill-awaiting-desantis-ok-would-end-years-of-renewable-energy-policies/?utm_email=D4DA7471A48D34B56503A4C30A&lctg=D4DA7471A48D34B56503A4C30A&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2f2024%2f05%2f03%2fbill-awaiting-desantis-ok-would-end-years-of-renewable-energy-policies%2f&utm_campaign=trib-orlando_sentinel-dont_miss-nl&utm_content=alert

[orange87]

DeSantis signs bill banning lab-grown meat in Florida

Article: https://www.wtnh.com/news/national/desantis-signs-bill-banning-lab-grown-meat-in-florida/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2AJtXBxIOah6vYAc9EK4KtNwBGqn9ofZ175cvGd0CuQmzv-GWaWOT9IXs_aem_Ab7ULo0rOr13AwIQ8Is0JnjUbeV-3WQsGJDMJRWr0eJUL2c-rIz-Hl002x09zzx5uSmUBrELSYdpzU7ppPGs89xr

On the surface this sounds like a good thing, but it isn't. Just like people mindlessly think GMO is bad even though it's saved millions of people around the world from starvation. People can just choose not to eat lab grown meat. No need for the government to ban it.

- Lab grown meat doesn't contain potentially deadly bacteria like meat directly from animals.

- Lab grown meat doesn't require animals to be killed.

- Lab grown meat eliminates the need for mass deforestation for livestock grazing.

- Livestock produce massive amounts of CO2 and greatly contribute to climate change. Lab grown meat would greatly reduce the need for livestock.

And still, lab grown meat is still REAL animal meat with the same exact taste. Lab grown meat is grown from real animal cells. We need to transition to lab grown meat for the reasons I listed above

[aent]

6 hours ago, orange87 said:

On the surface this sounds like a good thing, but it isn't. Just like people mindlessly think GMO is bad even though it's saved millions of people around the world from starvation. People can just choose not to eat lab grown meat. No need for the government to ban it.

Yeah its definitely hard to come up with a reason why doing more then requiring clear, concise labeling for it is necessary.

[jrs2]

On 5/4/2024 at 3:57 PM, orange87 said:

DeSantis signs bill banning lab-grown meat in Florida

Article: https://www.wtnh.com/news/national/desantis-signs-bill-banning-lab-grown-meat-in-florida/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2AJtXBxIOah6vYAc9EK4KtNwBGqn9ofZ175cvGd0CuQmzv-GWaWOT9IXs_aem_Ab7ULo0rOr13AwIQ8Is0JnjUbeV-3WQsGJDMJRWr0eJUL2c-rIz-Hl002x09zzx5uSmUBrELSYdpzU7ppPGs89xr

On the surface this sounds like a good thing, but it isn't. Just like people mindlessly think GMO is bad even though it's saved millions of people around the world from starvation. People can just choose not to eat lab grown meat. No need for the government to ban it.

- Lab grown meat doesn't contain potentially deadly bacteria like meat directly from animals.

- Lab grown meat doesn't require animals to be killed.

- Lab grown meat eliminates the need for mass deforestation for livestock grazing.

- Livestock produce massive amounts of CO2 and greatly contribute to climate change. Lab grown meat would greatly reduce the need for livestock.

And still, lab grown meat is still REAL animal meat with the same exact taste. Lab grown meat is grown from real animal cells. We need to transition to lab grown meat for the reasons I listed above

More power to DeSanctus. 

this is a good thing.  talk to any holistic "liberals" in CA or CO, here, or elsewhere that deal in holistic healing and medicine and vegan diet or vegetarianism, and they will tell you this is a good thing.  Free range is the only way to go ala meat.  To each their own, but, I would personally eat nuts (not deez nutz) for protein than lab grown meat.  There are so many free radicals that can cause cells to mutate into the Big C, why risk and ingest processed meat with altered DNA?  For the planet?  Seriously? They say when going to the supermarket, only eat food that is on the perimeter of the store and nothing from the aisles.  This is no different. The days of eating whatever you want and the body sh!tting out what it doesn't need and everything is just dandy are long gone, in fact, those days never really existed in the first place.

Climate change from cow farts?  What about all the human and dog farts? They outnumber cattle 10-1 or greater. 

Morally shaming people into climate initiatives is the worst manipulation I have ever witnessed in my life.  When does it stop?  Solar panels is one thing, but cow farts?  How stupid does that even sound?  Very.

What's the next step, exterminating billions of people and their farts for the sake of the planet?

[JFW657]

On 5/4/2024 at 3:57 PM, orange87 said:

DeSantis signs bill banning lab-grown meat in Florida

Article: https://www.wtnh.com/news/national/desantis-signs-bill-banning-lab-grown-meat-in-florida/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2AJtXBxIOah6vYAc9EK4KtNwBGqn9ofZ175cvGd0CuQmzv-GWaWOT9IXs_aem_Ab7ULo0rOr13AwIQ8Is0JnjUbeV-3WQsGJDMJRWr0eJUL2c-rIz-Hl002x09zzx5uSmUBrELSYdpzU7ppPGs89xr

On the surface this sounds like a good thing, but it isn't. Just like people mindlessly think GMO is bad even though it's saved millions of people around the world from starvation. People can just choose not to eat lab grown meat. No need for the government to ban it.

- Lab grown meat doesn't contain potentially deadly bacteria like meat directly from animals.

- Lab grown meat doesn't require animals to be killed.

- Lab grown meat eliminates the need for mass deforestation for livestock grazing.

- Livestock produce massive amounts of CO2 and greatly contribute to climate change. Lab grown meat would greatly reduce the need for livestock.

And still, lab grown meat is still REAL animal meat with the same exact taste. Lab grown meat is grown from real animal cells. We need to transition to lab grown meat for the reasons I listed above

DeSantis is just being a good lapdog for big money agricultural interests.

That's all it is.

Nothing more. 

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, jrs2 said:

More power to DeSanctus. 

this is a good thing.  talk to any holistic "liberals" in CA or CO, here, or elsewhere that deal in holistic healing and medicine and vegan diet or vegetarianism, and they will tell you this is a good thing.  Free range is the only way to go ala meat.  To each their own, but, I would personally eat nuts (not deez nutz) for protein than lab grown meat.  There are so many free radicals that can cause cells to mutate into the Big C, why risk and ingest processed meat with altered DNA?  For the planet?  Seriously? They say when going to the supermarket, only eat food that is on the perimeter of the store and nothing from the aisles.  This is no different. The days of eating whatever you want and the body sh!tting out what it doesn't need and everything is just dandy are long gone, in fact, those days never really existed in the first place.

Climate change from cow farts?  What about all the human and dog farts? They outnumber cattle 10-1 or greater. 

Morally shaming people into climate initiatives is the worst manipulation I have ever witnessed in my life.  When does it stop?  Solar panels is one thing, but cow farts?  How stupid does that even sound?  Very.

What's the next step, exterminating billions of people and their farts for the sake of the planet?

What altered DNA? 

 

[jrs2]

1 hour ago, JFW657 said:

What altered DNA? 

 

First, give me props for a shorter than usual post.

Second...um... I got nuthin'...

[orange87]

Barron Trump to step into the political arena as a Florida delegate at the Republican convention

Article: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/barron-trump-florida-delegate-republican-national-convention-rcna151388

[JFW657]

God save us from another Trump. 

[nite owℓ]

Well... as much as I detest how Trump operates, I think I'd rather experience a 2nd term under Trump than Biden, especially on the out of control spending and illegal immigration fronts. On other issues, with so many vacant positions, scandals and whatnot, I think it handicapped Trump from implementing lasting damage (minus SCOUTUS and insurrection).  I think a lot of this political turmoil could have been avoided had the country chosen to elect Hillary. Say what you want about her, but at least she was pragmatic, practical and somewhat of a centrist. By rejecting Hillary, the country was left with extreme polar opposites which led to where we are now. Just my 2 cents... subject to change, but probably not lol.

 

On 5/6/2024 at 2:32 PM, JFW657 said:

What altered DNA? 

 

Well, they've been altering the rest of our food crops (and fighting hard to avoid disclosing which products contain GMO ingredients)... meat is the last frontier. I feel like we've gone past the point of no return with the contamination of pesticides, GMO, microplastics etc.

Sometimes I really wish I were a Boomer. Y'all got in at the right time and checked out of the rat race at the right time. If there were a sci-fi way for me to sell 20 years of my prime for a couple mil in exchange to be in my 60s living the retired life, I would surely do it!

[JFW657]

On 5/10/2024 at 2:22 PM, nite owℓ said:

Sometimes I really wish I were a Boomer. Y'all got in at the right time and checked out of the rat race at the right time. If there were a sci-fi way for me to sell 20 years of my prime for a couple mil in exchange to be in my 60s living the retired life, I would surely do it!

You are right about that my young whippersnapper friend.

We had a high ol' time as we rode the gravy train through life.

We enjoyed casual sex on that ol' train with nary a care, set to that awesome music of the 70's ....

We lived fast, partied hard and blew through money as if the ride would never end!!!

Went to college on the cheap in the 80's.

Worked hard, made money, climbed the hill and bought houses while they were still affordable in the 90's.

Then came 9/11, social media, the decline of music and entertainment into the toilet along with our already shaky cultural values. Next came political correctness, cancel culture, wokeness. Trump, COVID, supply chain issues, global price hikes, etc, etc, ad nauseum were the last straws.

Now, the old gravy train..... 

....lies in crumpled ruins. 

Sigh.  

.

Edited May 11 by JFW657

[jrs2]

On 5/11/2024 at 4:06 PM, JFW657 said:

You are right about that my young whippersnapper friend.

We had a high ol' time as we rode the gravy train through life.

We enjoyed casual sex on that ol' train with nary a care, set to that awesome music of the 70's ....

We lived fast, partied hard and blew through money as if the ride would never end!!!

Went to college on the cheap in the 80's.

Worked hard, made money, climbed the hill and bought houses while they were still affordable in the 90's.

Then came 9/11, social media, the decline of music and entertainment into the toilet along with our already shaky cultural values. Next came political correctness, cancel culture, wokeness. Trump, COVID, supply chain issues, global price hikes, etc, etc, ad nauseum were the last straws.

Now, the old gravy train..... 

....lies in crumpled ruins. 

Sigh.  

.

OMG...this is as traumatic an end to a good story as Earnest Hemingway's bio... does anyone have an ice pick I can use???