Legacy Union (former Charlotte Observer redevelopment)

[rockhilljames]

 

I kid, I kid...

[SentioVenia]

 

 

Edited August 1, 2016 by SentioVenia

[KJHburg]

As first reported here by one of our users 620 STryon is for real. Project number 367987 or search by address 620 Tryon and it will pull it up. Not much information on their but it does say Office Mega structure! https://webpermit.mecklenburgcountync.gov/Default.aspx?PosseMenuName=ViewPermits  Maybe someone else knows how to pull up the plans but something big is happening! 

Projects

NumberNameOutstanding HoldsPlace Hold

Go

367986620 South Tryon St. Office Building - F / F0 

Go

367987620 South Tryon St. Office Building/Superstructure0 

Go

367988620 South Tryon St. Office Building/Core and Shell

Edited August 1, 2016 by KJHburg
More info

[Nick2]

Uptown will be completely Changed in 10 years. Stonewall could be something very very special.

[eastsider]

So the office building will be on Tryon and not S Church?

[CLTProductions]

14 minutes ago, eastsider said:

So the office building will be on Tryon and not S Church?

Well this is probably just the address they will use for the entire plot, for mailings, deliveries, etc etc. It's very likely the office will sit at the Stonewall, Church corner. 

Edited August 1, 2016 by Jayvee

[urbanlover568]

Hopefully something like this...

 

[alb1no panther]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

As first reported here by one of our users 620 STryon is for real. Project number 367987 or search by address 620 Tryon and it will pull it up. Not much information on their but it does say Office Mega structure! https://webpermit.mecklenburgcountync.gov/Default.aspx?PosseMenuName=ViewPermits  Maybe someone else knows how to pull up the plans but something big is happening! 

Projects

NumberNameOutstanding HoldsPlace Hold

Go

367986620 South Tryon St. Office Building - F / F0 

Go

367987620 South Tryon St. Office Building/Superstructure0 

Go

367988620 South Tryon St. Office Building/Core and Shell

[Squid7085]

Walked by this site this morning at 8, west sidewalk was still open. Walked by again at 5, sidewalk closed, and they had demolished the corner of the building. Making some good progress.

[KJHburg]

Yes I was confused by that in one place it said office building core and shell and the title was mega multi family.  This is what I see in the CharMeck web permit site.  It does seem to be an office tower. 

Click Go to view permit and inspection information.
	Address Information
	Address		620 STRYON ST
								Parcel #			07303201		Lot
	Tax Jurisdiction		CHARLOTTE					Status:			Active		Block
	Sphere Of Influence				CHAR
														Create New Master Plan
	GIS Property Details
	Historic District       Historic Property       Floodplain       Watershed   Watershed Name:         Waterfront Property   Waterfront Name:         SWIM Buffer   Buffer Distance:       Ft       Conservation Area
	Address Permit Holds
	Agency Agency Phone Created By Hold Reason Hold Note There are no Permit Holds on this address
	Address Occupancy Holds
	Agency Agency Phone Created By Hold Reason Hold Note Additional Notes There are no Occupancy Holds on this address
	Projects
	Number Name Outstanding Holds Place Hold Go 367986 620 South Tryon St. Office Building - F / F 0   Go 367987 620 South Tryon St. Office Building/Superstructure 0   Go 367988 620 South Tryon St. Office Building/Core and Shell 0
	Requests for Service
	Number Project Name Requested Service Description Inspection Results There are no Requests for Service for this Address.
	Master Plans
	Report Master Plan ID Plan Project Name Status Name   There are no Master Plans for this Address.

Edited August 2, 2016 by KJHburg

[HopHead]

^Great. They make a reference to "Superstructure" for this... Now we can really let our imaginations run wild

[NikolaTesla]

Burj Charlotte FTW(Including Observation Deck)

[CLTProductions]

For sure an office tower. This is phase 1. My guess is they have an anchor, hence the speed this is happening. Why it says mega multi family I have no idea. 

Levine center for the arts was qualified as a superstructure as well. so my guess is that the office is part of the bigger "superstructure" which could contain components like retail and such. The core and shell part is very common. 

[RiverwoodCLT]

It is hard to keep a secret in uptown with these poster on UP.   Let hope for a big tall office building like BOA HQ 

[CLTProductions]

7 hours ago, RiverwoodCLT said:

It is hard to keep a secret in uptown with these poster on UP.   Let hope for a big tall office building like BOA HQ 

It won't be that tall sorry to say. Still will be good enough for at least a top 10 in height

[cjd5050]

9 minutes ago, Jayvee said:

It won't be that tall sorry to say. Still will be good enough for at least a top 10 in height

I would be happy with just some distinction.  

Also interesting, to me at least, is with all of this work along Stonewall I wonder if the 'Charlotte Skyline' will change.  By that I mean the first image below is the typical shot with Duke on the left and BofA on the right.  The second image is what I think will become the new position to take the skyline shot.  Less emphasis on BofA but for sure makes Uptown look much more dense.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SgtCampsalot]

^That's a valid thought. The first angle is from the most economically active part of town for the last few decades: South Charlotte. The second one is from possibly the most economically active part of town for the near future: South End.

Edited August 2, 2016 by SgtCampsalot

[Vitamin_N]

44 minutes ago, Jayvee said:

It won't be that tall sorry to say. Still will be good enough for at least a top 10 in height

Charlotte Agenda is saying 31 stories, 1MM sq ft.

[KJHburg]

Yes I believe they have an anchor in the speed all of this is happening and my guess is Duke Energy with a consolidation of space with Piedmont Natural Gas, 400 South Tryon office tower and maybe some folks from Raleigh offices. Developers like to be first out of the gate with a tower because that can knock another developer out for a while. Anyway it is all exciting. And we know they have the financing partner already in Goldman Sachs. 

[The Force Sleeps]

Is there any standard criteria around what constitutes a "superstructure?"

Example: Over 25 stories, Less than 50 - something like that?

Or is it some ill-defined catch-all for "big building?"

[tozmervo]

Superstructure is a term for the "primary" structure of a building - foundations, steel and concrete typically. It doesn't really have anything to do with the size or type of building. 

Mega-project is a Mecklenburg county code enforcement definition that triggers over certain size thresholds, it mostly effects how the project goes through permitting and inspections. 

[HopHead]

I highly doubt we will see something the size of BofA Corp or Duke Energy center. My guess is something more in the ~500 ft range. I actually think between Tryon Place and this development, we'll probably see two or three, 500+ ft buildings. 

[atlrvr]

 

As far as height, the original poster indicated 31 stories....I think 15' per floor is pretty defined for modern office buildings in Charotte, with additional height for the lobby level, plus the mechanical/decorative roof element.

My math says 465' + 10' extra for lobby = 475' for occupied floor max height, then a pyramid I think appropriate proportion would be 10-15% additional, so call this ~530'.

That would make it 6th tallest building (after The Vue but ahead of BofA Plaza).  FYI, 1 BAC on College is 32 floors and 484' (but is a flat roof).

 

 

[RaleighHeelsfan]

So will this be the tallest building on this site (31 stories), or is there still hope for another building taller? 31 stories seems disappointing to me considering how hyped this development has been. I would like to see something at least 40 stories (office)

[atlrvr]

Any hype has been a product of the hopes/wishes of people on this forum.  I think Lincoln Harris (and "real estate community" in general) has done nothing to indicate that we should have grand expectations.

31 stories would certainly be the tallest office component. 

It seems like an almost certainty that we would see residential AND hotel on these 2 blocks, and we are seeing in other cities examples of both in the same building.....it's possible that configuration would be taller.