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PROPOSED: OneEleven Fountain (Fogarty Bldg.)

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DavidSegal Whistle-Stop

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I probably have a higher tolerance for ugly buildings than a lot of people on UP, but I can't stand the Fogarty. I get depressed just looking at it... I actively avoid it. Good brutalism should be jarring, and _interersting_. A little playful, even. Every aspect of the design of that building is horrific. And to think that it's where people used to go for social services -- and for school. An empty lot, a la Grant's Block, would be far better. Tear it down.

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Citydweller Unincorporated Area

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I have no fondness for the Fogarty - but it is clearly better than what is being proposed (if you set the bar low enough...)

I worked on a scheme 3 years ago at a Duany charrette to convert the Fogarty into a Trader Joe's on the first level (with a glass 'conservatory' facing ProJo and ramps and escalators) keeping the parking below and making ProJo's parking part of a parking court (Trader Joe's needed 70 spaces) and then bring the glass line out to the edge of the building, do jazzy lighting of the fins, better graphics and windows and add a bizzare Gehryesque loft dollup on top.

I worked with the Trader joe's rep - but they won't do anything in Rhode Island until they can sell wine and beer (if this could be allowed exclusively downcity - it would almost guarentee a Trader Joes').

So now it will be torn down for a crappy parking garage. Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse.....

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Cotuit Megalopolis

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Grocery stores in Mass. can't seel beer and wine, they just spent a bazillion dollars fighting a ballot question on it, made the casino look like a friendly disagreement. If Trader Joe's is selling beer and wine in Mass, they need to open a totally seperate store within a store to do it, do they make you pay for the beer/wine seperately?

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Grocery stores in Mass. can't seel beer and wine, they just spent a bazillion dollars fighting a ballot question on it, made the casino look like a friendly disagreement. If Trader Joe's is selling beer and wine in Mass, they need to open a totally seperate store within a store to do it, do they make you pay for the beer/wine seperately?
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Grocery stores in Mass. can't seel beer and wine, they just spent a bazillion dollars fighting a ballot question on it, made the casino look like a friendly disagreement. If Trader Joe's is selling beer and wine in Mass, they need to open a totally seperate store within a store to do it, do they make you pay for the beer/wine seperately?
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I don't remember if I posted this from my notes. There would be 20,000 square feet of retail, 2/3 on the Sabin side 1/3 on the Fountain side, the two sides cannot be combined as the garage ramp is between them. I don't know what kind of stores that kind of floorplate would equate to, maybe a Staples, certainly a pharmacy, right? I think they really want a restaurant facing the Convention Center.
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dgreco City

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I don't think you can just throw in one big-box and expect it to survive. There has to be at least a couple to encourage people to go to a particular area that they may have never traversed before and potentially wander into other areas of downtown. I'm not feeling the whole restaurant concept for this specific block when there are plenty of restaurants and taverns that will be mere steps away. Mixed in with a retailer and a potential market, I'd like to see a lounge or classy nightspot. It would bridge th egap between the rest of downtown and encourage happy drinkers to frolic for food around the corner. ( New Murphy's,new Cuban,Empire St.establishments,etc.)
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