PROPOSED: OneEleven Fountain (Fogarty Bldg.)

[runawayjim]

I'd bet a large iced extra extra that this editorial was written by the much reviled (around here) Dr. Downtown, David Brussat.

[Cotuit]

the editorial doesn't say anything about gtech or say that modern architecture just doesn't belong in providence. it's a bit too balanced to be brussat.

[Lone Ranger]

I'd bet a large iced extra extra that this editorial was written by the much reviled (around here) Dr. Downtown, David Brussat.

[Cotuit]

The project requires a demolition permit, but local preservationists who (bizarrely, to us) revere the Fogarty have stalled the process.

[Garris]

Unfortunately for the Fogarty Building, it is poor urban form.

[Keelia]

This is why Lincoln Center is redeveloping their entire campus - the Brutalist style does not permit the street life to interact with the building facade or visa versa.

[runawayjim]

This is why Lincoln Center is redeveloping their entire campus - the Brutalist style does not permit the street life to interact with the building facade or visa versa.

[gregw]

I think the Preservation Society needs to stand back and let this one come down. They should instead play a constructive role on the design of a new building on the site. If they complain about the loss of the Fogarty Building, a dreary knock-off of Boston's City Hall with poor street relation, they will lose credibility when they have to advocate for truly valuable buildings.

[xine]

i don't know if i'd blame the entire architecture style on the lack of interaction with the street. i'd say that's more a problem with the design of the building than what style was used.

[Cotuit]

The project requires a demolition permit, but local preservationists who (bizarrely, to us) revere the Fogarty have stalled the process.

[ArtInRuins]

Good job Cotuit. It is hard to figure out who reviles who in this town and keep it all straight. I hate it when Preservationists get blamed for stagnation... sure, it happens, and sometimes people can't see outside of that role, but for the most part, we (I guess I'll lump myself in as one of them) try to get it right. Replacing a bad building with another bad building in the heart of downtown, where there is little space left to build new without tearing something down of merit, would be a real tragedy.

PPS is right on this one, and fighting it for the right reasons. TPG will try to get away with the easiest, cheapest building if the public and civic groups let them. In Brussart's perfect world, there are no bad developers

[Garris]

TPG will try to get away with the easiest, cheapest building if the public and civic groups let them.

[basachs]

We sometimes have some bad, or compromised, or, more commonly, no buildings due to bad neighborhood or preservationist groups as well, even the well intentioned ones...

- Garris

[mental757]

cough, atwells parcel, cough???

[CtownMikey]

?

[runawayjim]

Anyone in PVD in particular you are referring to?

[Garris]

Anyone in PVD in particular you are referring to?

[inProv]

i can't think of anyone like that in providence... except maybe the CHNA who seem out to stop anything that brown or RISD try to do all in the name of "preservation" (just look at their website).

[Cotuit]

I need to see a bigger and more detailed rendering of this, but this is light years better than their previous proposals.

[runawayjim]

I need to see a bigger and more detailed rendering of this, but this is light years better than their previous proposals.

[Cotuit]

i like it! doesn't look anything like a parking garage.

[runawayjim]

You can see the parking garage ramps in the center section, how they screen that makes or breaks the building.

[JimmyGreaves]

Downcity Design Review Committee - Monday, July 9th - 4:30

Location: Department of Planning and Development, 4th Floor Conference Room - 400 Westminster Street near Empire.

Proposal by PRI XII, L.P. to demolish the Fogarty Building and to construct a parking garage

with ground floor retail. The DRC shall first render a decision on the preliminary approval for

the demolition of the building. If preliminary approval for demolition is granted, the DRC shall

then review the plans for the proposed new construction.

[mental757]

good to see this moving along. I think the above render and added retail in that area are real pluses.

[Baines]

good to see this moving along. I think the above render and added retail in that area are real pluses.