First Ward Urban Village / North Tryon Vision Plan

[Matthew.Brendan]

Thankfully electric personal mobility options are plentiful. My electric bicycle allows me to spend hours easily zipping around, only pedaling when I want to. I don’t know if I could work out the balance for the one-wheels or skateboards. If I wasn’t so fond of it, I’d trade my gasoline Vespa in for an electric model. 
 

Cars are, generally, hot loud smelly leaky things.  We build cathedrals for them all around town.

 

Anyhoo, here’s a throwback from 2017. 
 

View from First Ward Park

 

[DMann]

bad picture I know, but they are getting soil samples from the Victoria Yards site.

 

[Blue_Devil]

14 minutes ago, DMann said:

bad picture I know, but they are getting soil samples from the Victoria Yards site.

 

What is supposed to go there? If anything?

[jtmonk]

29 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

What is supposed to go there? If anything?

I believe that is where the 30+ story apartment building is going.

 

Pages from 2021_163_siteplan.pdf

[DMann]

Just noticed soil sample holes have also been dug in the parking lot behind Spirit Square.  

[Blue_Devil]

I am going to be honest, this is one of the more transformational projects for Uptown. I never thought it would actually get built. When this whole project is completed, with the Ellis, would could actually start seeing a home grown restaurant and walking district. Get rid of the Transit center, and reshape the Epicenter, and all of a sudden you have an area where people actually might want to be, and lots of things to do on game day. 

[KJHburg]

the plan to tear down the Hall House is one of the most idiotic shortsightened in Charlotte's history in this day and age.  I am sure that would make a great boutique hotel and there is plenty of room behind it for their stick built built apartment complex that belongs on the edge of uptown at best and really outside the urban loop. 

This would NOT happen in any other NC city like Winston, Raleigh, Durham, Wilmington or Asheville.  Would not happen in Memphis, Nashville even in Houston where they can build anything anywhere downtown they have multiple examples of older buildings like the Hall House that are hotels.   

3rd to last  photo is parking lot behind the Hall House.  I dont know why our city council is allowing this.  

 

 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2021 by KJHburg

[SydneyCarton]

Has anyone seen this before?  I don't recall it.

https://www.dannyforster.com/project/charlotte-masterplan-project-first-ward-charlotte-north-carolina/

[Blue_Devil]

24 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Has anyone seen this before?  I don't recall it.

https://www.dannyforster.com/project/charlotte-masterplan-project-first-ward-charlotte-north-carolina/

That is new to me... also my child brain says lol at the Promenade on the map... 

 

WOW, those massings are nuts... Where is this project all coming from? 

 

Edit: Sadly, looking into it more, I think that it is very old. Maybe the "Levine Master Plan"

Edited October 7, 2021 by Blue_Devil

[SydneyCarton]

13 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

That is new to me... also my child brain says lol at the Promenade on the map... 

 

WOW, those massings are nuts... Where is this project all coming from? 

 

Edit: Sadly, looking into it more, I think that it is very old. Maybe the "Levine Master Plan"

Thanks.  Hopefully, Levine will sell to another developer.  Maybe Related.

[DMann]

Anyone know what’s going on in the parking lot across from Levine Museum of the new South? There appears to be containers being stacked there. Is Victoria yards moving?

[KJHburg]

1 hour ago, DMann said:

Anyone know what’s going on in the parking lot across from Levine Museum of the new South? There appears to be containers being stacked there. Is Victoria yards moving?

maybe for the unannounced Truist Tower of about 30 floors including parking. 

[DMann]

Not there, on Sevent Street.

[SydneyCarton]

53 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

maybe for the unannounced Truist Tower of about 30 floors including parking. 

Are you serious?  I hope so!!

[KJHburg]

that is for the high rise apartment tower and I think the office tower is behind it 

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Are you serious?  I hope so!!

34 stories give or take yes on 7th between College and N Tryon   (no blue font in case you are color challenged visonally) 

[Matthew.Brendan]

it's Friday... somebody make a terrible photoshop of 20 floors of exposed crappy parking deck with 14 stories of glass above it and a giant TRUIST JR. sign on top

[RANYC]

7th and Tryon Project not expected to be completed until late 2025.  Main Library project also delayed a year and anticipates reopening in late 2025 as well.  Jeez.

[KJHburg]

7 minutes ago, RANYC said:

7th and Tryon Project not expected to be completed until late 2025.  Main Library project also delayed a year and anticipates reopening in late 2025 as well.  Jeez.

I think this is just the library and Spirit Square portion of the project.  

From Biz Journal:

""The delivery of a major uptown redevelopment will be delayed by more than a year, due in part to design challenges, according to The Charlotte Observer. A new Main Library branch and renovated Spirit Square are now expected to reopen in late 2025, the daily newspaper reports.""

[Matthew.Brendan]

to help pass the time:

 

[Blue_Devil]

How is this delayed... They said 4 years in the news release a few weeks ago. that would be 2025.

[RANYC]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

I think this is just the library and Spirit Square portion of the project.  

From Biz Journal:

""The delivery of a major uptown redevelopment will be delayed by more than a year, due in part to design challenges, according to The Charlotte Observer. A new Main Library branch and renovated Spirit Square are now expected to reopen in late 2025, the daily newspaper reports.""

On Metropolitan Partnership's website, they describe project completion as scheduled for Q3 2024.  Now a County spokeswoman is telling the Observer that completion on N Tryon Redevelopment will complete in mid-2025, and the Library component won't finish until late 2025.  It appears the design process didn't fully capture the level of coordination between the two projects.

I wonder if this delays Metropolitan closing on the purchase of the Redevelopment lots.  Proceeds from that sale were to fund various affordable housing projects that just received approval from Council this month...and I think I recall hearing that the proceeds would come in early next year.

Edited October 22, 2021 by RANYC

[RANYC]

28 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

How is this delayed... They said 4 years in the news release a few weeks ago. that would be 2025.

Well, from the horses' mouths:

Library website and fund-raising communications were saying early 2024 opening.  So that's delayed.  Not saying it isn't for good reason, but there has been a shift in their correspondences.

Metropolitan Partnership's website indicates their component of the North Tryon Redevelopment is anticipated to finish in Q3 2024, but now the County is saying mid-2025.  

Delays happen, so it is what it is.  We shouldn't be surprised.  Just look across the street at the Carolina Theater Redevelopment.  That whole area of uptown should be renamed the Dilatory District.

We're holding people to account for their projections, so smart move by Lincoln Harris to say nothing lol.

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by RANYC

[SydneyCarton]

1 hour ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

to help pass the time:

 

 

It is so sad that such a spectacular building was destroyed.

 

[DMann]

Initially there was some talk about a large municipal garage that would be underground and span both sides of 7th Street.  If that part is being resurrected it could affect both the Library/Truist part as well as the 7th Street part.

[tozmervo]

1 hour ago, RANYC said:

Well, from the horses' mouths:

Library website and fund-raising communications were saying early 2024 opening.  So that's delayed.  Not saying it isn't for good reason, but there has been a shift in their correspondences.

Metropolitan Partnership's website indicates their component of the North Tryon Redevelopment is anticipated to finish in Q3 2024, but now the County is saying mid-2025.  

Delays happen, so it is what it is.  We shouldn't be surprised.  Just look across the street at the Carolina Theater Redevelopment.  That whole area of uptown should be renamed the Dilatory District.

We're holding people to account for their projections, so smart move by Lincoln Harris to say nothing lol.

This may not be the reason specifically, but at the same time: It is really hard to over-exaggerate how f*kd the construction market is right now.

You're worried about some cheap plastic toy for Christmas? Contractors are panicking when even basic light fixtures are suddenly 3-4 month lead times. Fiber cement siding is unavailable until '22. Carpet and tile selections are extremely limited. You wanted long span steel trusses? Guess what, you're now redesigning to use something else. Etc, etc.