Ballantyne

[stw52]

3 hours ago, InSouthPark said:

The northern road connecting the Bowl to Community House is 99.9% done, just not open yet. We took the dogs for a walk down it this weekend. They are planting some large willow oaks along the road but everything else is complete.  It will be three lanes, bike lanes, and parallel parking on both sides.  

Are the bike lanes separate / standalone  from the car lanes and parking? 

[Reverie39]

So we have a Bowl. Now we just need a Sphere like Las Vegas and Charlotte will be good to go.

[CLT2014]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Will there be any water features in the Bowl?

Yes: https://www.goballantyne.com/things-to-do/explore/stream-park

[InSouthPark]

1 hour ago, stw52 said:

Are the bike lanes separate / standalone  from the car lanes and parking? 

If I remember correctly:  Parking | Bike | Lane | Turning Lane | Lane | Bike | Parking

Not fully sure the point of the turning lane as there are no turns.  Might be for concert exits to use the turning lane as extra lane.

Edited October 31, 2023 by InSouthPark

[SydneyCarton]

3 hours ago, CLT2014 said:

Yes: https://www.goballantyne.com/things-to-do/explore/stream-park

Thanks!  I haven’t been in that area since March and couldn’t recall.

[KJHburg]

Here's one of the tallest buildings under construction in Charlotte no one is really talking about.  The 26 story Ballantyne Bowl apartment tower now up to 11 or so floors.  It will be 299 feet tall according to my sources the same as Radius Dilworth.

Tower on right hand side.  

Tower to left in 2nd photo

 

[KJHburg]

[KJHburg]

was on the ground today in Ballantyne and the new 26 story apartment tower appears to be 12/13 floors up now.  They had a concert last night and people were mulling around today in the park.  This privately owned developer built park is really attracting the kiddos already.   Ballantyne Reimagined.    That might count as 2 cranes down there but I will let others decide.  

when all this retail opens I promise you this it will be a "downtown" area for south Charlotte, Indian Land and parts of Fort Mill.  (and those in Marvin, Weddington and Waxhaw too) 

 

this could be called LoSoPaBa  Lower South Park Ballantyne 

Edited November 12, 2023 by KJHburg

[Hushpuppy321]

Currently working on the 13th floor of the High-Rise.  They may need to raise the Tower Crane to its final height in the next month or so.  Pretty tall building for Ballantyne, going to really stand out.

[KJHburg]

Ballantyne Rising the new 26 story apartment tower making an impact already on this burgeoning edge city skyline.  The Bowl is the development to watch in 2024 as the retail starts opening.  

[Take2]

On 11/27/2023 at 1:48 PM, KJHburg said:

Ballantyne Rising the new 26 story apartment tower making an impact already on this burgeoning edge city skyline.  The Bowl is the development to watch in 2024 as the retail starts opening.  

So while I definitely do not have a love affair eith Ballantyne, I am accepting the fact that what's playing out with this "bowl" situation is likely a better case scenario.  I mean honestly what's the alternative.  At least some urbanization is taking place.

But geez the architecture leaves much to be desired. Towerview reminds me of a Myrtle Beach ocean front, the offices are typical Charlotte design and is that a parking deck?

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by Take2

[Matthew.Brendan]

6 hours ago, Take2 said:

So while I definitely do not have a love affair eith Ballantyne, I am accepting the fact that what's playing out with this "bowl" situation is likely a better case scenario.  I mean honestly what's the alternative.  At least some urbanization is taking place.

But geez the architecture leaves much to be desired. Towerview reminds me of a Myrtle Beach ocean front, the offices are typical Charlotte design and is that a parking deck?

 

 

believe it or not, a parking deck is a HUGE UPGRADE from whatever this is.....

[Windsurfer]

4 hours ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

 

believe it or not, a parking deck is a HUGE UPGRADE from whatever this is.....

That is really a very sad photo.  Joni Mitchel comes to mind.

[go_vertical]

I am really hoping that they have plans to re-imagine this side once the eastern side of Johnston is complete.  I seriously doubt it would immediately after, but at least a long term densification and urbanization plan.  Ideally one with a light rail extension stop.

[KJHburg]

I can assure you that there will be redevelopment on the western side of Ballantyne where the many surface parking lots are located amongst the office buildings.  Northwood has their hands full with all the work to be done on the eastern side with the Ballantyne Bowl and building out that plan.    The current work at the Bowl area is just the beginning.   This is a 10 year plus project just on this side of 521.  

How about talking about the massive vacant land holdings in uptown Charlotte owned by Levine, the county and in Brooklyn Village??   There is developable land close to mass transit that is VACANT. 

[Hushpuppy321]

13 hours ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

 

believe it or not, a parking deck is a HUGE UPGRADE from whatever this is.....

Not even sure what you can do to improve this layout other than to tear down some buildings and start over.  Anyway, I’ll probably just be turning 60 when they start doing something on this side like 12+ years from now…

[ArchiCLT]

On 11/30/2023 at 8:45 PM, Hushpuppy321 said:

Not even sure what you can do to improve this layout other than to tear down some buildings and start over.  Anyway, I’ll probably just be turning 60 when they start doing something on this side like 12+ years from now…

First, determine which buildings to keep. Second, replace parking lots with parking decks. Third, take the leftover land and create infill projects.

I thought NR released a high-level aerial rendering of the full build-out on both sides of 521 when they first announced their purchase?

[KJHburg]

12 minutes ago, ArchiCLT said:

First, determine which buildings to keep. Second, replace parking lots with parking decks. Third, take the leftover land and create infill projects.

I thought NR released a high-level aerial rendering of the full build-out on both sides of 521 when they first announced their purchase?

I think they did but it is such a big undertaking they are doing the golf course side east side first and they have their hands full with that.   I can see them taking some buildings to fit more housing in there  but like you said it will be a process of seeing what is viable to keep.  Some of the office buildings were built in the early 1990s and in another 10 years they will be 40 years old.  

[CLT Development]

2 hours ago, ArchiCLT said:

First, determine which buildings to keep. Second, replace parking lots with parking decks. Third, take the leftover land and create infill projects.

I thought NR released a high-level aerial rendering of the full build-out on both sides of 521 when they first announced their purchase?

I don't think they released a full plan but this is the masterplan i have.

[Reverie39]

Wowowow massive improvement, looks like the idea is indeed to just plop developments over many of those giant parking lots

I hope future Ballantyne will command great views from the beltway. Idk why I just think it's a cool mark of a big city when even its beltway has big high rises visible.

[InSouthPark]

On 12/4/2023 at 1:14 PM, CLT Development said:

I don't think they released a full plan but this is the masterplan i have.

Well the good thing is when this is all complete, there will be no extra need for surface parking...they will just use Johnson Rd as a parking lot. 

[Windsurfer]

11 hours ago, Reverie39 said:

Wowowow massive improvement, looks like the idea is indeed to just plop developments over many of those giant parking lots

I hope future Ballantyne will command great views from the beltway. Idk why I just think it's a cool mark of a big city when even its beltway has big high rises visible.

Yeah, but just think how much bigger uptown would be, how much better it would be for the environment, and how much more truly urban  and convenient a city is when buildings aren't scattered all over. Think Houston.

[Reverie39]

12 hours ago, Windsurfer said:

Yeah, but just think how much bigger uptown would be, how much better it would be for the environment, and how much more truly urban  and convenient a city is when buildings aren't scattered all over. Think Houston.

I do agree. Houston absolutely baffles me. But given that the wasted parking lot land already exists now in Ballantyne, might as well develop on it I guess. And not build anything like old Ballantyne in the future. 

[Windsurfer]

1 hour ago, Reverie39 said:

I do agree. Houston absolutely baffles me. But given that the wasted parking lot land already exists now in Ballantyne, might as well develop on it I guess. And not build anything like old Ballantyne in the future. 

Those lots will fill up, then there'll be more strip malls to support all the folks working there. Then more nail botiques, then supermarkets to catch the crowds as they head home. It'd be nice to think everything will remain contained. It won't.  

There are a couple of us who remember that area the way it used to be. It was amazing. Huge rolling fields interspersed with patches of trees. Great hunting! My family had dogs kept with the Miller Family, who used to own a large tract nearby set up for hunting quail.  My dad and I must've collected a hundred arrowheads within those woods. Boy Scouts used to hike in and camp there.....

I get it. "Progress".

Edited December 6, 2023 by Windsurfer

[JRCLT]

2 hours ago, Reverie39 said:

I do agree. Houston absolutely baffles me. But given that the wasted parking lot land already exists now in Ballantyne, might as well develop on it I guess. And not build anything like old Ballantyne in the future. 

River District....