NoDa (N Davidson St Arts District) Projects

[Guest]

15 hours ago, 3397char said:

You should work on your reading comprehension before calling me out.

I am referring to the water quality SWIM buffer in my post, shown here:

 

 

Not the FEMA floodplain shown here:

There is almost no floodplain in this area; it is not an issue. At no point in my post did I say "FEMA" or "floodplain".  so not sure what your point is.

Here is a rough juxtaposition of their project a top the water quality overlay:

I am not a fan of building in the water quality buffer.  not just for obvious reasons, but consistently protecting this builds green space in a way that is clear, consistent and expected by developers.  If you don't agree that is fine. 

Reread my comment and I want to apologize for the tone and misunderstanding (not just because I am very wrong lol). I am with you now and quite confused, I thought you could not build in the SWIM. It looks like some of the paved pathway will be in it and that is allowed, but not the portion of the building. They seem to have tried avoiding it on the north parcel so it’s curious. I’d love if anyone could provide anymore insight.

Edited February 9 by MothBeast

[3397char]

On 2/9/2024 at 8:36 AM, MothBeast said:

Reread my comment and I want to apologize for the tone and misunderstanding (not just because I am very wrong lol). I am with you now and quite confused, I thought you could not build in the SWIM. It looks like some of the paved pathway will be in it and that is allowed, but not the portion of the building. They seem to have tried avoiding it on the north parcel so it’s curious. I’d love if anyone could provide anymore insight.

no worries, we are all amateurs enthusiasts here.

[KJHburg]

Walked the 36th St corridor today wow has it changed since my last visit before Christmas.

Avery Hall's 2 apartment complexes looking great the one at 3100 N Tryon and 36th St where the grocery store likely Sprouts will go.  Their other complex right at the station is coming along being framed up now.  Grubb's apartment complex is wrapping up construction and leasing has begun.  I have heard the lot where the office building will go fronting 36th will just be grass for now. 

The Centro apartment further up 36th look good too and the crane was coming down today.  this 5 story building is the one the neighbors protested so much but it looks good and not very tall.  The Spacecraft more modern apartments across 36th St seem to be completed too and upfits are happening on the retail spaces.    First part of the greenway I think by the Grubb apartments.   @CLT Development any word on that free standing retail building by the Wandry apartments?  

[3397char]

On 2/24/2024 at 6:19 PM, KJHburg said:

Walked the 36th St corridor today wow has it changed since my last visit before Christmas.

Avery Hall's 2 apartment complexes looking great the one at 3100 N Tryon and 36th St where the grocery store likely Sprouts will go.  Their other complex right at the station is coming along being framed up now.  Grubb's apartment complex is wrapping up construction and leasing has begun.  I have heard the lot where the office building will go fronting 36th will just be grass for now. 

The Centro apartment further up 36th look good too and the crane was coming down today.  this 5 story building is the one the neighbors protested so much but it looks good and not very tall.  The Spacecraft more modern apartments across 36th St seem to be completed too and upfits are happening on the retail spaces.    First part of the greenway I think by the Grubb apartments.   @CLT Development any word on that free standing retail building by the Wandry apartments?  

The Centro NoDa project will look great because it is designed well by a good architect.  But "not very tall" depends on the  context. It will not be obtrusive to the 36th St streetscape (because it is designed well.)  But because the lot slopes downhill a full 12 feet to the rear and that rear is the northern side, it will be very obtrusive to the single-family homes just a few feet off the back. I did a rudimentary shading study back when proposed and some of these parcels will be thrown into permanent shade for most of the winter (and periodic shade most other months) due to the sun angle.  Having your house in months of shade is pretty obtrusive.  50ft at grade parking deck facades in your backyard/side yard is pretty obtrusive.   It will be this (just across the street), but 1 story taller:

[Guest]

Does anyone know why half the land Yards NoDa sits on has been undeveloped for almost a decade? Picture for reference:

 

[KJHburg]

^ It is owned by someone in Atlanta and the tax bill for the entire apartment complex goes to a Buckhead mansion on Tuxedo Rd.

[CLT Development]

13 hours ago, MothBeast said:

Does anyone know why half the land Yards NoDa sits on has been undeveloped for almost a decade? Picture for reference:

 

ongoing litigation of some sort is what I've always heard. I wish they'd sell to someone that would do something great with it. No more of this garden style stuff.

Edited March 5 by CLT Development

[3397char]

20 hours ago, MothBeast said:

Does anyone know why half the land Yards NoDa sits on has been undeveloped for almost a decade? Picture for reference:

 

This project was rezoned under RZP 2007-046, approved in 2008, so more like 15 years, lol.   The original petitioner was Gateway Homes who also built The Colony and The Renaissance in NoDa.  Those were condo/ownership projects and hey had horrible relationships with their customers/owners; some resulted in litigation I was told.  This one is obviously for rent, so a little different.  I do not know if Gateway is still involved; others seem to have more up-to-date info. 

To meet CDOT traffic requirements, they were originally supposed to build a road stub to connect to what is now 30Six NoDa.  It would allow traffic to circulate to 35th St, now since changed to N Davidson. That was, done, but they decided to put up a private gate.  That was not supposed to be a part of the plan, and really annoying to neighborhood pedestrian and vehicular traffic flow.  So dumb and Un-NoDa to have a gated community.  They could have at least only blocked off the rear parking like Highland Lofts, still allowing for circulation.  People irrationally think the gates make them safe, but that did not stop a person from getting murdered and stuffed into a mattress inside one of the Yards at NoDa apartments. 

[CLT Development]

9 hours ago, CLT Development said:

ongoing litigation of some sort is what I've always heard. I wish they'd sell to someone that would do something great with it. No more of this garden style stuff.

I was wrong about ongoing litigation, the owner is in jail. https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndga/pr/owners-currency-exchange-business-made-600-million-convicted-fraud

[Guest]

So what you’re all saying is that if this place isn’t already haunted it should be?

[CLT Development]

Kinda stunned nobody has posted me and Jason's posts on here. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4dDYk1OKEc/

[DonkeyKong]

1 hour ago, CLT Development said:

Kinda stunned nobody has posted me and Jason's posts on here. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4dDYk1OKEc/

Wow...that loss hurts!  Any chance it comes back to happening?

[michaelef]

2 hours ago, CLT Development said:

Kinda stunned nobody has posted me and Jason's posts on here. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4dDYk1OKEc/

As someone who doesn't want to go to the Dowd YMCA...this hurts.

[nicholas]

2 hours ago, michaelef said:

As someone who doesn't want to go to the Dowd YMCA...this hurts.

Does anyone even really go to the Johnston YMCA?  I drive past pretty regularly at extremely varying times and don't see many cars in its parking lot, or people around in general. 

[DMann]

When I was living in NODA I would often use the Y and it seemed pretty busy to me.

[CLT Development]

1 hour ago, DMann said:

When I was living in NODA I would often use the Y and it seemed pretty busy to me.

they are currently operating at 33% the membership as they were pre-Covid

[tozmervo]

If someone just wants access to weights and a couple of pieces of equipment, there are MUCH cheaper gym options than the Y. Especially during a period of rapid inflation, that's a monthly cost easily targeted to find cheaper options. 

[CLT Development]

15 hours ago, tozmervo said:

If someone just wants access to weights and a couple of pieces of equipment, there are MUCH cheaper gym options than the Y. Especially during a period of rapid inflation, that's a monthly cost easily targeted to find cheaper options. 

Not to mention Eastway Regional Rec Center is amazing

[11 HouseBZ]

23 hours ago, CLT Development said:

Kinda stunned nobody has posted me and Jason's posts on here. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4dDYk1OKEc/

[michaelef]

Crane base is going in for the new Spacecraft project 

[KJHburg]

Grubb is starting its 2nd phase of apartments on 36th and Philemon right after completing the first phase.

NoDa to add 242 more apartments from Grubb Properties project - Charlotte Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

""The second phase of an apartment project in NoDa is now underway.

Construction is in progress on phase two of Grubb Properties' Link Apartments NoDa 36th project. The 242-unit midrise apartment building will be adjacent to the development's first phase at 3500 Philemon Ave.

The property will have its own set of amenities, including coworking space, electric vehicle-charging stations, resort-style pool with a sundeck, fitness center with a cycle room and yoga studio, dog park, pet spa and a clubhouse. Phase two will have studio, one- and two-bedroom apartments. Its first units will deliver this summer.  Grubb acquired 10.5 acres along 36th Street for the Link project in December 2020, paying $17 million, according to Mecklenburg County real estate records. Construction on phase one wrapped late last year. That 282-unit midrise building includes a 566-space parking deck and sits on 3.2 acres just off 36th Street.""

 

[CLT Development]

13 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Grubb is starting its 2nd phase of apartments on 36th and Philemon right after completing the first phase.

NoDa to add 242 more apartments from Grubb Properties project - Charlotte Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

""The second phase of an apartment project in NoDa is now underway.

Construction is in progress on phase two of Grubb Properties' Link Apartments NoDa 36th project. The 242-unit midrise apartment building will be adjacent to the development's first phase at 3500 Philemon Ave.

The property will have its own set of amenities, including coworking space, electric vehicle-charging stations, resort-style pool with a sundeck, fitness center with a cycle room and yoga studio, dog park, pet spa and a clubhouse. Phase two will have studio, one- and two-bedroom apartments. Its first units will deliver this summer.  Grubb acquired 10.5 acres along 36th Street for the Link project in December 2020, paying $17 million, according to Mecklenburg County real estate records. Construction on phase one wrapped late last year. That 282-unit midrise building includes a 566-space parking deck and sits on 3.2 acres just off 36th Street.""

 

Dawg, that second phase is basically complete. It's on my daily walking circuit.

Edited March 21 by CLT Development

[nicholas]

Pic of the site from yesterday.  Didn't realize there was going to be a crane here.

Edited March 22 by nicholas

[KJHburg]

On 3/21/2024 at 10:10 AM, CLT Development said:

Dawg, that second phase is basically complete. It's on my daily walking circuit.

I saw that today.  That article was somewhat misleading I thought it was just starting and like you said it is almost complete.  Last time I walked by this I thought it was one long building but there was a 2nd building 2nd phase behind it.   Photos today.   I assume that extra wide sidewalk next to the creek opposite side of Philemon is the Little Sugar Creek greenway.  

[KJHburg]

More from my walk up and down 36th Street with new apartment buildings and townhomes and soon a grocery store at N Tryon.   Last 3 photos are Avery Hall of Brooklyn's 2 developments.