Rise East Nashville/800 Main (2 - 10 stories, 376 apts., 50,540 sq. ft. office, 46,210 sq. ft. retail, 316 capacity garage, one acre outdoor space)

[markhollin]

The 3.7 acre site at 800 Main in East Nashville will have a two phase build-out featuring a 10 story building, a 5 story building, and several more 2-4 story structures featuring 379 apts., 45,000 sq. ft. office space, 40,000 sq. ft. retail; 316 capacity garage, one acre outdoor space.  Much of the project will be mass timber design. The cost of the land and construction is $210 million.

Rise Investors is the developer, and is led by Uday Seghal, who was a long-time partner at AJ Capital, and struck out on his own last year. 

This design will go before MDHA design review committee later in April. They hope to break ground in early 2024.

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2023/04/04/rise-investors-800-main-east-nashville-uday-sehgal.html


And behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/real-estate-notes-mixed-used-project-eyed-for-east-side/article_3e477b1a-d3c7-11ed-833a-8b6bf4a06d31.html


And at CityNowNext here:

https://citynownext.com/2023/04/10/376-unit-mixed-use-development-eyed-for-main-street-property-in-east-nashville/

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of the frame:

[smeagolsfree]

A few of us have known about this one for a while but Uday only works with the NBJ. My feeling is the E Nashville residents will raise some hell over 10 stories in the heart of the action. I think it may be zoned for that but cannot remember if it is or not. 

This one has been on the down low for some time now.

[MLBrumby]

I like this proposal. I traveled to Budapest a few times over the years, and the thing I love about that city is its many pockets (and ruin bars), and the connections between all the courtyards.  Definitely one of my top 3 EU cities... and Nashville could have a lot of that too. The Printers/Bankers Alley... Nashville Yards (the lawns)... The proposal for the bombed buildings on Second Ave.... Peabody Union... 12th Avenue Gulch... and several others.  Those are the things I want to see continue for Nashville. 

[AronG]

This looks amazing. Would be a huge injection of much-needed pedestrian activation to Main St/5 Points. I'm in EN and I'll show up to support.

[Rick Dalton]

AJ Capital (and former partners I guess) continues to impress 

[downtownresident]

I can hear the collective cry of Historic Edgefield already. 
 

This looks great. Would be an amazing shot in the arm for Main Street. 

[andywildman]

2 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

I can hear the collective cry of Historic Edgefield already. 
 

This looks great. Would be an amazing shot in the arm for Main Street. 

Forget 'em. This is nearly 400 badly needed homes in a dope-ass location: on a frequent transit line, walking distance to a grocery store, to multiple parks, to five points, to Titans stadium. Shoot I want to live here!

[MLBrumby]

11 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

I can hear the collective cry of Historic Edgefield already. 
 

This looks great. Would be an amazing shot in the arm for Main Street. 

Agree!  So what would they rather have.... a nice looking apartment block or a gravel parking lot packed with U-Haul trucks?  

[henburg]

1 hour ago, MLBrumby said:

Agree!  So what would they rather have.... a nice looking apartment block or a gravel parking lot packed with U-Haul trucks?  

You joke but a lot of disgruntled locals may take you up on keeping the gravel lot...

Edited April 4, 2023 by henburg

[Argo]

40,000 square feet of retail.

Woo!

[CandyAisles]

If this gets past the neighbors, the project may suffer from getting their hands on mass timber.  That production just isn't there yet...but would be really awesome.

[Bos2Nash]

2 hours ago, CandyAisles said:

If this gets past the neighbors, the project may suffer from getting their hands on mass timber.  That production just isn't there yet...but would be really awesome.

I hope not, but very possible. StructurLam did just shutter their Conway, AR facility due to “a large client backing out”. I presume the supplier/installer  will be StructureCraft as AJ used them on Nashville Warehouse. It seems like StructureCraft has had good luck with their delivery timelines too. When I toured the 1030 Music Row site, they said it arrived early and they needed additional lay down space. I believe they also outsource their GluLam supply to Binderholz out of Austria I’m pretty sure. 

Keeping my fingers crossed it doesn’t get VE’d out! I am in love with this project and really glad they decided to go back to the drawing board instead of building over the existing building. 

[CandyAisles]

10 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

I hope not, but very possible. StructurLam did just shutter their Conway, AR facility due to “a large client backing out”. I presume the supplier/installer  will be StructureCraft as AJ used them on Nashville Warehouse. It seems like StructureCraft has had good luck with their delivery timelines too. When I toured the 1030 Music Row site, they said it arrived early and they needed additional lay down space. I believe they also outsource their GluLam supply to Binderholz out of Austria I’m pretty sure. 

Keeping my fingers crossed it doesn’t get VE’d out! I am in love with this project and really glad they decided to go back to the drawing board instead of building over the existing building. 

Someone smarter than me might be able to tell us if an SP that shows a specific construction type (mass timber) is contingent for the build.  If the SP passes are they allowed to switch to concrete, for instance?

[EN_5116]

16 hours ago, henburg said:

You joke but a lot of disgruntled locals may take you up on keeping the gravel lot...

It blows my mind-- but totally true. So many would rather have the uhaul eyesore.

[Edgefield D]

This is not in Edgefield. I’m not saying there won’t be a couple of vocal people about it, but not sure it matters in the end.

[Bos2Nash]

Oh they are already out there. The EN Facebook page is already on fire about it.

[Edgefield D]

6 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

Oh they are already out there. The EN Facebook page is already on fire about it.

Oh I know….people are lamenting the loss of the half empty parking lot with UHauls. Don’t get me wrong, it might be tough for the other businesses…but it’s not impossible for them to find something else. I didn’t recognize any of the FB people as my neighbors…but there will definitely be people who don’t like it.

[Luvemtall]

I’m going to apologize for this rant up front, I’m sorry to whom ever gets offended. But I just have a issue with people who want and believe , that they can have a Norman Rockwell white picket fence suburbia kind of thing, but chose to live in one of America’s largest and rapidly growing cities. Metro Nashville is wide spreading and I know there’s certain areas that probably will remain mostly SFH neighborhoods, but the closer you get to the inner core the more likely it’s eventually going to see denser , higher, larger developments. Don’t move into or stay in a place that is heading to a million people and expect it to stay like a fairytale small Southern town. If dense high rise multi residential mixed use development isn’t your cup of tea , then maybe you shouldn’t live in the city. I’m not really trying to bash anyone, but find it totally off the charts all these people around town , who seem not to understand they live in a CITY! Ok, rant over. 

[Bos2Nash]

1 hour ago, Edgefield D said:

Oh I know….people are lamenting the loss of the half empty parking lot with UHauls. Don’t get me wrong, it might be tough for the other businesses…but it’s not impossible for them to find something else. I didn’t recognize any of the FB people as my neighbors…but there will definitely be people who don’t like it.

You probably recognize me most likely. I definitely drew the ire of some folks. I’m only 2 or 3 blocks from the site haha. 

13 minutes ago, Luvemtall said:

I’m going to apologize for this rant up front, I’m sorry to whom ever gets offended. But I just have a issue with people who want and believe , that they can have a Norman Rockwell white picket fence suburbia kind of thing, but chose to live in one of America’s largest and rapidly growing cities. Metro Nashville is wide spreading and I know there’s certain areas that probably will remain mostly SFH neighborhoods, but the closer you get to the inner core the more likely it’s eventually going to see denser , higher, larger developments. Don’t move into or stay in a place that is heading to a million people and expect it to stay like a fairytale small Southern town. If dense high rise multi residential mixed use development isn’t your cup of tea , then maybe you shouldn’t live in the city. I’m not really trying to bash anyone, but find it totally off the charts all these people around town , who seem not to understand they live in a CITY! Ok, rant over. 

I agree. I think a lot of it comes down to a changing of the American Dream and recognizing that there are actually several versions of it. Some want the white picket fence and SFH, but in reality, that won’t exist close to the cores of the bigger cities. I think the American Dream can still be owning where you live along with your choice of transportation. Just how those manifest in the different regions of our country vary. 

[Edgefield D]

18 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

You probably recognize me most likely. I definitely drew the ire of some folks. I’m only 2 or 3 blocks from the site haha. 

I agree. I think a lot of it comes down to a changing of the American Dream and recognizing that there are actually several versions of it. Some want the white picket fence and SFH, but in reality, that won’t exist close to the cores of the bigger cities. I think the American Dream can still be owning where you live along with your choice of transportation. Just how those manifest in the different regions of our country vary. 

I’m on Russell. I haven’t been involved or aware of this development though. 
 

I think there is a way to preserve historic character, maintain a quality of life and still have development. For me, since this is outside Edgefield I’m all for it. Some will say it will push traffic/parking onto Edgefield streets. And it will, just like WeWork did. But, there are other ways to deal with that.  A lot of what I was seeing on FB was people complaining about things changing, more expensive apartments….etc. I would still rather have nice buildings around me than run down ones. There is going to be a lot of development around Edgefield…a lot still left to go…

[Pdt2f]

7 hours ago, Luvemtall said:

I’m going to apologize for this rant up front, I’m sorry to whom ever gets offended. But I just have a issue with people who want and believe , that they can have a Norman Rockwell white picket fence suburbia kind of thing, but chose to live in one of America’s largest and rapidly growing cities. Metro Nashville is wide spreading and I know there’s certain areas that probably will remain mostly SFH neighborhoods, but the closer you get to the inner core the more likely it’s eventually going to see denser , higher, larger developments. Don’t move into or stay in a place that is heading to a million people and expect it to stay like a fairytale small Southern town. If dense high rise multi residential mixed use development isn’t your cup of tea , then maybe you shouldn’t live in the city. I’m not really trying to bash anyone, but find it totally off the charts all these people around town , who seem not to understand they live in a CITY! Ok, rant over. 

It would be a bit easier to feel empathy for the complainers in this case if it wasn’t on the east side, where the average time of ownership is probably less than 5 years in one of the most gentrified parts of the city. It always feels irritating when people want the door closed right after they walk through it.
 

It’s why, on principle, I don’t lament with long time White House residents when they complain about all the new houses being built. I don’t feel I have the right to, and I tell them so. 

[smeagolsfree]

There is nothing historic or needing saving on Main street except a few signs. It is a changing corridor and has nothing to do with the historic vibe or character of the rest of the area as it has already been changed with all of the other new construction. This is just a taller building continuing the process of the evolution of the street.

[CandyAisles]

I don't disagree with the above commentary, however Historic Edgefield is full of long time residents who mostly never wanted to see Nashville grow to where it is today.  It's a lot of the reason why that particular neighborhood is difficult to deal with at times.

[Edgefield D]

4 minutes ago, CandyAisles said:

I don't disagree with the above commentary, however Historic Edgefield is full of long time residents who mostly never wanted to see Nashville grow to where it is today.  It's a lot of the reason why that particular neighborhood is difficult to deal with at times.

Actually, there are very few people left that bought in the 70s. We are the owners of an old house, I’ll always be grateful they fought to keep them. Because if they hadn’t, it would be a neighborhood full of those 80s looking townhouses on the 900 block of Russell. We have a newcomer’s brunch every year and there is always a steady stream of new people. More and more with kids. One of the most vocal now is from California, actually. It almost always comes down to quality of life issues. Most people I know are not against development.

[Luvemtall]

Edgefield D , thank you for your insight . Sounds like you and many of your neighbors, have a open mind and understanding. I fully agree that development has to conform to its surroundings , and if 800 Main was say a 10 story storage facility or a juvenile delinquency halfway house that’s definitely something of concern. But as proposed it’s a good mix of desirable uses, including open green space. It would benefit to be a SP project, and hold to its conceptual design. As planned I believe it will add to a great vibrant neighborhood. My rant above comes from the pushback of the likes of City Lights residents, the recent Belle Meade Plaza discussion etc. projects that are of high quality, provide much needed alternative housing opportunities, green space and add to the overall vibrancy of a urban neighborhood.