Rise East Nashville/800 Main (2 - 10 stories, 376 apts., 50,540 sq. ft. office, 46,210 sq. ft. retail, 316 capacity garage, one acre outdoor space)

[Edgefield D]

5 hours ago, Luvemtall said:

Edgefield D , thank you for your insight . Sounds like you and many of your neighbors, have an open mind and understanding. I fully agree that development has to conform to its surroundings , and if 800 Main was say a 10 story storage facility or a juvenile delinquency halfway house that’s definitely something of concern. But as proposed it’s a good mix of desirable uses, including open green space. It would benefit to be a SP project, and hold to its conceptual design. As planned I believe it will add to a great vibrant neighborhood. My rant above comes from the pushback of the likes of City Lights residents, the recent Belle Meade Plaza discussion etc. projects that are of high quality, provide much needed alternative housing opportunities, green space and add to the overall vibrancy of a urban neighborhood. 

Sure….I get that, and trust me. I don’t always agre with all of my neighbors. Everone has a different opinion of it. Sometimes a specific street is affected more than others and that affects peoples feelings on something. I personally like this plan….and like I said earlier, it’s outside of Edgefield. And anything, especially on Main, is fair game. Main has a long way to go to feel like a cohesive vibrant area. 

[markhollin]

Some clarified info on the project, which will officially be called Rise East Nashville:

- Total of 376 residential units (not 379)

- 46,210 sq. ft. of office space

- 50,540 sq. ft. of retail space

More renderings and diagrams:
 

[Edgefield D]

Wow….this is really game changing for Main, to me. I wish there were some retail on Woodland too.  But, overall….I think it’s pretty impressive for that plot of land.  The plan was always to redevelop that property….my only surprise about it is that it took this long. 

[smeagolsfree]

If you ask me, I think the office and retail should be reversed. Put the office on Main and the retail on Woodland. Woodland is more of the retail street IMO than Main St. Woodland seems to get more pedestrians than Main and has more of a pedestrian vibe. When I walk in East Nashville I never walk on Main as my stay is limited to the Five Points area.

IDK, what do you guys think about that?

[chc3]

1 hour ago, smeagolsfree said:

If you ask me, I think the office and retail should be reversed. Put the office on Main and the retail on Woodland. Woodland is more of the retail street IMO than Main St. Woodland seems to get more pedestrians than Main and has more of a pedestrian vibe. When I walk in East Nashville I never walk on Main as my stay is limited to the Five Points area.

IDK, what do you guys think about that?

Although on Main it could be more transformative since that section around Weiss Liquor is a squalor zone.

[ruraljuror]

5 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

If you ask me, I think the office and retail should be reversed. Put the office on Main and the retail on Woodland. Woodland is more of the retail street IMO than Main St. Woodland seems to get more pedestrians than Main and has more of a pedestrian vibe. When I walk in East Nashville I never walk on Main as my stay is limited to the Five Points area.

IDK, what do you guys think about that?

100%

[donNdonelson2]

With the wide pedestrian alley and its connection from Main to Woodland between two of the structures, there is a strong possibility that this development will stimulate pedestrian activity on both streets. Certainly a huge improvement for both streets from what’s there now. 

Edited April 9, 2023 by donNdonelson2

[bnacincy]

8 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

If you ask me, I think the office and retail should be reversed. Put the office on Main and the retail on Woodland. Woodland is more of the retail street IMO than Main St. Woodland seems to get more pedestrians than Main and has more of a pedestrian vibe. When I walk in East Nashville I never walk on Main as my stay is limited to the Five Points area.

IDK, what do you guys think about that?

Makes sense to me!

[Bos2Nash]

On 4/5/2023 at 8:24 AM, CandyAisles said:

Someone smarter than me might be able to tell us if an SP that shows a specific construction type (mass timber) is contingent for the build.  If the SP passes are they allowed to switch to concrete, for instance?

I've asked this question to someone with a wealth of knowledge on the subject and no, the SP typically would not include language that would hold them to Mass Timber.

[CandyAisles]

2 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

I've asked this question to someone with a wealth of knowledge on the subject and no, the SP typically would not include language that would hold them to Mass Timber.

It needs to be documented then.  "Neighbors approve based on massing and construction type."

[Bos2Nash]

2 minutes ago, CandyAisles said:

It needs to be documented then.  "Neighbors approve based on massing and construction type."

Sorry. Are you saying you want Mass Timber included in the SP?

On 4/9/2023 at 8:08 AM, smeagolsfree said:

If you ask me, I think the office and retail should be reversed. Put the office on Main and the retail on Woodland. Woodland is more of the retail street IMO than Main St. Woodland seems to get more pedestrians than Main and has more of a pedestrian vibe. When I walk in East Nashville I never walk on Main as my stay is limited to the Five Points area.

IDK, what do you guys think about that?

I agree, but also disagree. Even though It is a long range plan, Main Street is the road that would have more transportation options on it in the future. I think if we want Main Street to improve we need developers willing to be the first one in to do it. 

[CandyAisles]

15 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

Sorry. Are you saying you want Mass Timber included in the SP?

That would be ideal.  Set precedent for development in the area.  I wouldn't be opposed to a concrete structure...but I don't like the optics of being presented with something superior to have the ole "bait and switch" done to the neighbors.

[Bos2Nash]

6 minutes ago, CandyAisles said:

That would be ideal.  Set precedent for development in the area.  I wouldn't be opposed to a concrete structure...but I don't like the optics of being presented with something superior to have the ole "bait and switch" done to the neighbors.

Agreed. I think the developer committing to something like that would also go a long way with the community. 

On 4/8/2023 at 10:09 AM, markhollin said:

I also really hope this is how they are able to demise the retail areas. This could make those spaces alot more affordable to smaller shop owners.

[CandyAisles]

1 hour ago, Bos2Nash said:

I also really hope this is how they are able to demise the retail areas. This could make those spaces alot more affordable to smaller shop owners.

There are an infinite number of universes representing every possible outcome of everything...except a universe that includes a retail demising outline like this.  Zero chance.  Would love it, but not gonna happen.

[markhollin]

Brett Withers, Metro Council Member for District 6, speaks about the project:

"Over the years I have fielded several inquiries about the 800 Main property, and this proposal is by far the most exciting vision yet," Withers emailed the Post. "I hope that the MDHA Design Review Committee supports this concept plan.

Withers said previous proposals typically envisioned stacked new construction around the existing building, which tended to yield "awkward massings and a poor flow." In contrast, the Rise proposal, he said, removes what amounts to a central impediment and allows the site to offer interesting public spaces and ground-floor gathering places. 

 

Withers said the tower height is offset by amenity-lined open spaces and would serve as the centerpiece for the Main Street corridor, adjacent to a bus stop on Main and planned bike lanes on Woodland Street. 

 

"This proposal exceeds the Main Street revitalization expectations that were set by our community in the East Bank Redevelopment District," Withers said. "I wholeheartedly support this proposal and hope to see it finalized during the remaining months of my term."

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/real-estate-notes-midtown-hotel-project-advances/article_25e85f72-da47-11ed-9172-27b00e7aeb85.html

[Bos2Nash]

FYI, this project goes before the planning commission this week. As mentioned at the meet-up this weekend, I attended the public meeting held by CM Withers and Parker and there were definitely voices against this proposal. If you wish to have a voice on this (support or non-support, I am personally in strong support) project, be sure to reach out to the planning commission at [email protected]. As a precaution I tend to always copy my council member and the council member that represents the development district. In this case the CM is Brett Withers, [email protected].

[bwithers1]

The RISE East Nashville SP is on the agenda for tonight’s Planning Commission public hearing. Please participate in the public hearing if your schedule permits. We would welcome any constructive feedback. 

Edited June 8, 2023 by bwithers1

[markhollin]

By a 5-0-1 vote the Metro Planning Commission has approved a rezoning for a proposed mixed-use $210 million two-phased project eyed for the city’s east side. The final approval must now come from Metro Council.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/real-estate-notes-metro-oks-rezoning-for-main-street-project/article_88b2a762-0a25-11ee-be11-eb8eaec3a505.html