Brooklyn Village Redevelopment in 2nd Ward

[Desert Power]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

Looks like the city and county might give the developers of Brooklyn Village another 10 years to redevelop this area.  Unbelievable.  I think it is time for a new developer or another huge land banking operation has begun and unlike Levine this is more city and county's problem. 

https://www.wfae.org/post/brooklyn-village-developers-could-get-10-year-extension-buy-marshall-park#stream/0

Amazing how this developer can't get this going while less desirable lots nearby are infilling like crazy.

27 minutes ago, Dale said:

Can we stop disparaging the Peebles and the Levines and visit our scorn upon the city-county ?

The city looks inept here too

[KJHburg]

Levine owns his properties and he is free to build whatever the zoning allows whenever.  He has not for whatever reasons.  True the local government controls N Tryon parcels at the Hal Marshall Center and those plans are moving forward albeit slowly. 

The situation with the 2nd Ward land is different as the city and county govt. went into partnership with this developer Peebles to get this project.  They are already missing deadlines as posted by others.  Local government has more skin in this game thus more blame in the failure to get it off the ground.  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

Levine owns his properties and he is free to build whatever the zoning allows whenever.  He has not for whatever reasons.  True the local government controls N Tryon parcels at the Hal Marshall Center and those plans are moving forward albeit slowly. 

The situation with the 2nd Ward land is different as the city and county govt. went into partnership with this developer Peebles to get this project.  They are already missing deadlines as posted by others.  Local government has more skin in this game thus more blame in the failure to get it off the ground.  

The city should be suing the shirt off Levine's back for not yet delivering either parking deck.

[NOLA2CLT]

11 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

The city should be suing the shirt off Levine's back for not yet delivering either parking deck.

but whats the likelihood that happens?  Seems like Levine would actually have that building completed before any litigation ensues

[Dale]

“Sure, we’ll tie up a swath of Uptown for a further decade.”

— city-county —

[QClifer]

This is going to be another Easteland mall fiasco

[go_vertical]

2 minutes ago, QClifer said:

This is another Eastland mall fiasco

Fixed that for ya. 

[stiluvclt]

imho, Raze the education building, refurbish Marshall Park , put the Stonewall property back on the market. What a waste of time it is when the city gets involved with an out of town developer to do ANYTHING!

[KJHburg]

News on the park swap between the city and county and how it affects the Brooklyn redevelopment.

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2019/09/24/how-timeline-for-brooklyn-village-has-changed-as.html

[Dale]

12 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

News on the park swap between the city and county and how it affects the Brooklyn redevelopment.

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2019/09/24/how-timeline-for-brooklyn-village-has-changed-as.html

Possible good news then ?

[KJHburg]

1 minute ago, Dale said:

Possible good news then ?

It seems it is moving forward albeit at a very slow pace.  Not sure why this site might even need a rezoning I would have thought that would be taken care of when they the development group purchased it. 

[Dale]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

It seems it is moving forward albeit at a very slow pace.  Not sure why this site might even need a rezoning I would have thought that would be taken care of when they the development group purchased it. 

I mean it sounds like there may be some resistance to granting another decade ?

[KJHburg]

Just now, Dale said:

I mean it sounds like there may be some resistance to granting another decade ?

oh very much so it sounds like. 

[KJHburg]

from the Twitter and if you are not following CLT Development you should.  This is a great idea.

 

 

 

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Heres an idea, pull BV from Peebles. Sell off the land piecemeal with Deed Restrictions. Retain and reimagine Marshall Park, and give uptown another signature park.

[archiham04]

I think selling off land piecemeal with deed restrictions is brilliant.  It is a strategy I promoted for EastLANDa few years ago.  I'm not sure what BV and Peebles refers to, but I like "piecemeal" and "deed restricted".

 

EDIT:ok... Brooklyn Village and Peebles is the developer.

 

EDIT 2 sorry, Eastland not Eastway

Edited September 24, 2019 by archiham04

[Guest]

1 minute ago, archiham04 said:

I think selling off land piecemeal with deed restrictions is brilliant.  It is a strategy I promoted for Eastway a few years ago.  I'm not sure what BV and Peebles refers to, but I like "piecemeal" and "deed restricted".

BV=Brooklyn Village, Peebles = development company currently pegged to develop the site sometime in the next century.

[archiham04]

I don't know if "BV" is big enough, but I think Eastland is.  My strategy for Eastlandwould have a graduated, below market, homesteader, weighted lottery: weighted toward qualified buyers with proven nearby long-term  residency.  The only deed restriction would only be that the parcel could never be combined with another (to prevent speculators).  The development would be subsidized with infrastructure improvements and pre-approved building type permits.

Edited September 24, 2019 by archiham04

[KJHburg]

GREAT Brooklyn exhibit at the Levine Museum of the New South about the neighborhood and the redevelopment.  Great history here and worthy of a visit.  Photos from the museum.   Bank of America free museum days through the rest of the year so go see it for free if you are a BofA customer.  Formerly called LogTown due to the many log houses did not know that.  Upper level in the museum and there is a mention of the redevelopment again by BK Partners but nothing news breaking there unfortunately. 

[CarolinaDaydreamin]

On 9/23/2019 at 7:40 PM, go_vertical said:

Fixed that for ya. 

At least for First Ward and Brooklyn, the land is valuable enough for it to have the capability to quickly change hands and be developed. That wasn't the case with Eastland. The positive is it helps and helped o push development toward South End which is a net positive. 

[Desert Power]

On 12/28/2019 at 3:18 PM, KJHburg said:

GREAT Brooklyn exhibit at the Levine Museum of the New South about the neighborhood and the redevelopment.  Great history here and worthy of a visit.  Photos from the museum.   Bank of America free museum days through the rest of the year so go see it for free if you are a BofA customer.  Formerly called LogTown due to the many log houses did not know that.  Upper level in the museum and there is a mention of the redevelopment again by BK Partners but nothing news breaking there unfortunately.

 

Good hint here

[kermit]

Last post in this thread was one year ago...

When can we euthanize this and try again? I hope the city doesn't drag it out for the same decade plus that they waited on Pappas to do something at Scaleybark. 

[atlrvr]

On 12/29/2020 at 3:55 PM, kermit said:

Last post in this thread was one year ago...

When can we euthanize this and try again? I hope the city doesn't drag it out for the same decade plus that they waited on Pappas to do something at Scaleybark. 

Movement....

Calling @Conformity

[Blue_Devil]

27 minutes ago, atlrvr said:

Movement....

Calling @Conformity

Movement as in there is a plan?

[DMann]

I think the line is "I'm not dead yet!"

[atlrvr]

Ha...yes...both lines were from that scene....I chose getting better cause seems like progress.

A subdivision plan for utilities work needed (that was negotiated to be paid for by city/county) was submitted yesterday.  Applicant was BK partners which was the "winning" bidder on the site from several years back.