Branson/Springfield

[slyder1]

You can't even compare Branson to any of those...like you said, Branson is a place for people who are at the end of their careers....it's not a hot music scene. Branson is not the Vegas of the Ozarks. Branson has only about 6,000 residents and has no casinos. Highrises are not going up in Branson...it's barely even growing. The growth in that area has been slowing for some time now. Branson has a lot of shows, but they are all basically the same and lack the diversity to come close to even trying to compare it to Vegas.

It's a great place, but you just can't compare Branson, Springfield, or even Little Rock for that matter to huge music cities like Nashville, Memphis, or Austin.

HA HA HA..... You're Kiding right. Branson is booming now more than ever. Hmmmm... lets see there's oh I don't know, BRANSON LANDING (the $450 million dollar entertainment district in downtown Branson). The Branson Landing is estimated to bring 4 million more visitors annually to branson alone. Lets see then there's.....

Hilton Hotel and Convention Center, the 5-star 18 story hotel Charlevoix on table rock lake, as well as all the upscale subdivisions and multifamily developments. Branson Landing alone is expected to bring 20,000 people to Taney county in the next 2 years.

[tim2462]

HA HA HA..... You're Kiding right. Branson is booming now more than ever. Hmmmm... lets see there's oh I don't know, BRANSON LANDING (the $450 million dollar entertainment district in downtown Branson). The Branson Landing is estimated to bring 4 million more visitors annually to branson alone. Lets see then there's.....

Hilton Hotel and Convention Center, the 5-star 18 story hotel Charlevoix on table rock lake, as well as all the upscale subdivisions and multifamily developments. Branson Landing alone is expected to bring 20,000 people to Taney county in the next 2 years.

First of all, you dodged that rediculous post you posted about the Springfield comparison.

Second of all, while Branson Landing and other developments are great...they are happening everywhere. A lot more of those type of developments are in the works for NWA. 20,000 people into Taney County in the next 2 years? Are you off of your medicine? Not only are that many people not going to be moving there in 2 years, but a shopping center is not going to draw new residents, especially not that many!! ROFLMAO!!!! You are hillarious, you should be a comedian.

It seems like such a bigger deal, because Branson is so small. Branson's population is barely growing...less than 300 people in 4 years. Population (year 2000): 6,050, Est. population in July 2004: 6,315. Taney County - 2000 39,703, 2004 41,939. 2,000 people in 4 years....

And you think a glorified shopping center anchored by a belk store is going to add 20,000 in 2 years??? ROFLMAO!!!! Branson Landing is going to bring a lot of jobs, but they are low paying jobs. There have been numerous articles on how Branson is slowing. A little research will show that Branson's vistior numbers have been dropping in recent years. They're hoping to bring 4 million more visitors, but that's being overly optimisitc over a shopping center. Anyway, my point is, you're sometimes a little too happy with your wishful thinking. Comparing Sprintfield to Austin, Memphis, and Nashville was a prime example of that.

Sometimes, I wonder if you are for real, With the crazy things you say.

[slyder1]

First of all, you dodged that rediculous post you posted about the Springfield comparison.

Second of all, while Branson Landing and other developments are great...they are happening everywhere. A lot more of those type of developments are in the works for NWA. 20,000 people into Taney County in the next 2 years? Are you off of your medicine? Not only are that many people not going to be moving there in 2 years, but a shopping center is not going to draw new residents, especially not that many!! ROFLMAO!!!! You are hillarious, you should be a comedian.

It seems like such a bigger deal, because Branson is so small. Branson's population is barely growing...less than 300 people in 4 years. Population (year 2000): 6,050, Est. population in July 2004: 6,315. Taney County - 2000 39,703, 2004 41,939. 2,000 people in 4 years....

And you think a glorified shopping center anchored by a belk store is going to add 20,000 in 2 years??? ROFLMAO!!!! Branson Landing is going to bring a lot of jobs, but they are low paying jobs. There have been numerous articles on how Branson is slowing. A little research will show that Branson's vistior numbers have been dropping in recent years. They're hoping to bring 4 million more visitors, but that's being overly optimisitc over a shopping center. Anyway, my point is, you're sometimes a little too happy with your wishful thinking. Comparing Sprintfield to Austin, Memphis, and Nashville was a prime example of that.

Sometimes, I wonder if you are for real, With the crazy things you say.

Ha thats funny I meant to put 20 years for that population. Thats ok I will let you wear out those hands. No, I didn't dog my previous post about Springfield's music scene just saying the facts about how we have been compared to those cities wether you like it or not. Fayetteville doesn't compare to Springfield's music scene at all. Branson Landing is not a "shopping center" and no there aren't many of those types of developements going on all over the country let alone NWA.

[strmchsr77]

First of all, you dodged that rediculous post you posted about the Springfield comparison.

Second of all, while Branson Landing and other developments are great...they are happening everywhere. A lot more of those type of developments are in the works for NWA. 20,000 people into Taney County in the next 2 years? Are you off of your medicine? Not only are that many people not going to be moving there in 2 years, but a shopping center is not going to draw new residents, especially not that many!! ROFLMAO!!!! You are hillarious, you should be a comedian.

It seems like such a bigger deal, because Branson is so small. Branson's population is barely growing...less than 300 people in 4 years. Population (year 2000): 6,050, Est. population in July 2004: 6,315. Taney County - 2000 39,703, 2004 41,939. 2,000 people in 4 years....

And you think a glorified shopping center anchored by a belk store is going to add 20,000 in 2 years??? ROFLMAO!!!! Branson Landing is going to bring a lot of jobs, but they are low paying jobs. There have been numerous articles on how Branson is slowing. A little research will show that Branson's vistior numbers have been dropping in recent years. They're hoping to bring 4 million more visitors, but that's being overly optimisitc over a shopping center. Anyway, my point is, you're sometimes a little too happy with your wishful thinking. Comparing Sprintfield to Austin, Memphis, and Nashville was a prime example of that.

Sometimes, I wonder if you are for real, With the crazy things you say.

Wow, I guess Tim is not a Branson fan...

[slyder1]

I guess tim2462 thinks that I'm saying Springfield is on the same level as those other cities musically. That is not it, Im simply saying that Springfield has been compared to those cities before by many in the music buisness.

[strmchsr77]

Ha thats funny I meant to put 20 years for that population. Thats ok I will let you wear out those hands. No, I didn't dog my previous post about Springfield's music scene just saying the facts about how we have been compared to those cities wether you like it or not. Fayetteville doesn't compare to Springfield's music scene at all. Branson Landing is not a "shopping center" and no there aren't many of those types of developements going on all over the country let alone NWA.

Actually Fayetteville has a very impressive music scene. It may not compare to Springfield's but I would have to say it is very close. I do have to say there are probably more large scale developments going on in Fay/NWA as compared to Branson. Although I don't think any one is quite as big as Branson Landing since it is a very very impressive development. But there are many in the 100-300 million dollar range. These can include Downtown/Dickson Fayetteville, Joyce Fayetteville, The Prominade Rogers, Pinnacle Hills Rogers, as well as many others

[johnnydr87]

Some quick notes:

It would be ridiculous for Springfield to claim to be the birthplace of folk music. Springfield isn't the definitive birthplace of the genre, although I wouldn't be surprised if some artists came from the area (just as they came from the Ozarks of AR, or the Appalachians of the east coast, or anywhere between).

Second, listing bands that have recently gotten record deals doesn't mean much. There are a quite a few from Arkansas that have record deals. That doesn't necessarily equate to fame. Example: I stayed up to date often with The Kicks http://www.thekicks.net/ a band from Little Rock that signed with a major record label. They were supposed to be the next big thing, like Evanescence. Nothing materialized.

As for the other claims, I'm not sure I have the knowledge to respond. Springfield could have a much, much better music scene than Fayetteville for all I know. I will say that I have known for years of the prestige surrounding the music scenes in Austin, New Orleans, and Nashville....that it would be very ridiculous to compare LR, SF, or Fay to them.

[masons_dad1]

Springfield is just Springfield... Fayetteville is just Fayetteville... Branson, however, is on a much higher playing field than either of those cities as far as entertainment and leisure is concerned.

Quick note:

"Today, Branson has numerous museums, tourist attractions, over 100 shows daily, over 200 lodging choices, over 400 restaurants, 49 live performance theaters, three pristine lakes, 10 championship golf courses, dozens of festivals and events thoughout the year, nearby mountains, and wilderness areas."

Popular attractions in Branson include Silver Dollar City, Celebration City, Dixie Stampede, White Water Branson, Showboat Branson Belle, Branson's American Star, Stone Hill Winery, Ride The Ducks, The Tracks, and Splash Country.

So what if Branson is sometimes referred to as "Las Vegas for people without teeth" (and also, presumably, without a gambling habit.)

Thanks to Wikipedia.com!

[slyder1]

I know there were some questions about whats being done with infinstructure in Springfield. I don't have time to name all the project but here are a few:

I-44/US 65 interchange in north Springfield is getting it's outdated cloverleaf design 4 new flyover ramps starting this summer. The tallest "flyover" is going to be seven stories tall.(this should give great views of downtown)

This same design is going to be done at the US 60/65 interchange in south Springfield.

In western Springfield the I-44/US 60 interchange is getting 2 flyover ramps in 2009.

[slyder1]

The Cheesecake Factory is in the final stages of signing a lease agreement for Branson Landing according to officials of the branson landing. This is awsome! Its about time this area got one of those.

[Mith242]

I know there were some questions about whats being done with infinstructure in Springfield. I don't have time to name all the project but here are a few:

I-44/US 65 interchange in north Springfield is getting it's outdated cloverleaf design 4 new flyover ramps starting this summer. The tallest "flyover" is going to be seven stories tall.(this should give great views of downtown)

This same design is going to be done at the US 60/65 interchange in south Springfield.

In western Springfield the I-44/US 60 interchange is getting 2 flyover ramps in 2009.

Thanks for the update. Those flyovers will provide nice views. Just make sure you don't keep your eyes off the road for very long.

[mcheiss]

The Cheesecake Factory is in the final stages of signing a lease agreement for Branson Landing according to officials of the branson landing. This is awsome! Its about time this area got one of those.

I believe that would be the smallest market they have ever entered. Kind of shame for Northwest Arkansas though, they probably won't build one up here then.

[slyder1]

Here is some awsome news for the Springfield music scene!

Springfield

[Mith242]

That's great to hear. I've heard a lot about SXSW in Austin.

[slyder1]

I remeber some saying that it would be rediculous to "ever" compare Springfield to the cities of Nashville, Austin, Memphis...

"Located in the south-central part of the Show-Me state, Springfield, Mo. boasts a rich country music legacy. In the 1950s, it threatened to rival Nashville as the genre

[johnnydr87]

Arkamo? Sounds like a combination of Arkansas and Missouri. I wouldn't be surprised if the members hailed from both states.

Yes, it appears that Springfield was comparable to Nashville in the 1950s....

[tim2462]

I remeber some saying that it would be rediculous to "ever" compare Springfield to the cities of Nashville, Austin, Memphis...

"Located in the south-central part of the Show-Me state, Springfield, Mo. boasts a rich country music legacy. In the 1950s, it threatened to rival Nashville as the genre

[masons_dad1]

I remeber some saying that it would be rediculous to "ever" compare Springfield to the cities of Nashville, Austin, Memphis...

"Located in the south-central part of the Show-Me state, Springfield, Mo. boasts a rich country music legacy. In the 1950s, it threatened to rival Nashville as the genre

[johnnydr87]

Actually, Branson's biggest music boom occurred in the 80's...

"Branson's tourism boom in the 1980's is mostly attributed to the arrival of several maintsteam country stars such as Roy Clark, Mel Tillis, Ray Stevens, Jim Stafford and Boxcar Willie as well as the growth of the Kanakuk Camps."

However, all Branson has is it's "variety shows", whereas Nashville's music scene isn't even close to it's biggest industry...

"Although Nashville is renowned for being a major music recording center and tourist destination, its largest industry is actually health care. Nashville is home to more than 250 health care companies, including Hospital Corporation of America, the largest private operator of hospitals in the world. As of 2006, it is estimated that the health care industry contributes $18.3 billion a year and 94,000 jobs to the Nashville-area economy."

So that said let's quit comparing "Las Vegas for people without teeth" to Nashville!

Wikipedia.com

Is branson part of the Springfield metro....?

[slyder1]

LOL...slyder, c'mon...you're grasping at straws. In the 50's, many places were comparable to Nashville, because Nashville didn't exist then as it does today. No one ever said Springfield doesn't have music history...again, most cities do. But, it is not comparable to any major music city like Nashville, Austin, or even Memphis. Oh, and this isn't the 50's...that's been over 50 years ago. A lot has changed in 50 years.

I know.... There were sooooo many places with great country music legacy....

Is branson part of the Springfield metro....?

Not yet..... Taney and Stone counties are thought by state and local gov. to be added within the next five years.

[slyder1]

I though I would give some info on all the lofts going up in downtown Springfield. With soooo many people moving downtown almost all of the old vacant buildings are now renovated. Here is some photos of some of the upscale lofts:

Founders Park Lofts (located next to Founders

Wilhoit Plaza is a 100,000 sqf. Retail, office, and loft redevelopment

I could only find this website of some downtown lofts:

www.blueblocklofts.com

[Mith242]

Is that first building a renovated building or is it new? Oh and I like the Subbies in the second pic.

[slyder1]

Is that first building a renovated building or is it new? Oh and I like the Subbies in the second pic.

They are both being renovated. Most new Lofts in downtown are old buildings being renovated. Yeah.... I couldn't figure out that subbies....

[Mith242]

They are both being renovated. Most new Lofts in downtown are old buildings being renovated. Yeah.... I couldn't figure out that subbies....

Quick someone start a new restaurant called subbies. Anyway I thought the first one might be renovated too but I wasn't positive. Nice to see, not only preserving some of the older buildings, especially one like that.

[slyder1]

Quick someone start a new restaurant called subbies. Anyway I thought the first one might be renovated too but I wasn't positive. Nice to see, not only preserving some of the older buildings, especially one like that.

Hey sounds like a good idea..... Anyway's I wanted to tell ya'll about about an awesome design firm in Springfield. They are Haggerman New Urbanism and have won many prestigious awards for their work and designs. Check out the design for the Springfield Arena its pretty amazing. Although the arena has been uped to 20,000 seats this design would still be cool to incorparate for the new design. Also check out the OTC (Ozarks Technical Community College) design and building. This company is also known for their work in the great art studios in Downtown Springfield as well.