Dilworth Projects (Kenilworth, Morehead, East)

[kermit]

1 hour ago, t_money said:

Was Art's 'popular'?  I can't say I ever really saw anyone there?

I went every day before work for a decade, then, 10 years ago, my doctor told me my  cholesterol was high and I never went back.

The BBQ sucked, but the biscuits were fantastic. Go figure.

[QClifer]

Loved that place. Quick easy and cheap. We are losing a lot of the basic quick breakfast places around town. Not everybody wants a $12-15 sit down breakfast

park rd soda shoppe will be next whenever their lease is up. 

[Oleanderiris]

On 9/17/2019 at 2:22 PM, NYtoCLT said:

Does anyone know if there has been so much as a rumor regarding what LH and/or others want to do with the big food truck lot at East/Scott?

I’m pretty sure LH is just representing the Castanas family in their attempt to sell or lease the property for more than its worth. Castanas has been moving the pricing goal post for years now. When the market was $50 a foot he wanted $100. When market was $60 a foot he wanted $110. My guess is that nothing will happen there for decades or more. 

[JHart]

@Seabrooke You forgot the 180 key/120,000 sqft hotel! Probably going to be the 3rd phase after the larger office development. I think they said apartments, not condos, but I could be mistaken about that. The total residential portion is about 1/2 of this project with a significant portion of them being considered affordable housing because of this lands previous use, even though they didn't really mention that in the prebid. 

[jtmonk]

Thank you @Seabrooke  Was there any mention of when the second phase would start or if they have had any interest in the office space?

[JHart]

9 minutes ago, jtmonk said:

Thank you @Seabrooke  Was there any mention of when the second phase would start or if they have had any interest in the office space?

Phase 2 begins immediately after completion of phase 1, looking for bids end of Q4 of next year. Phase 1 is scheduled to be 8 months of construction completion around October of next year, but if it gets pushed back it will backup phase 2. No mention of future tennant

Edited November 21, 2019 by JHart
No mention of tenant

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Centre South today. Plenty of below grade materials on site waiting for installation. Most of the streets around the site are closed while connections are executed. Trying to drive in this corner of Dilworth is near impossible. 

Caldwell at South and active excavation. They appear to start from this corner and work from there. Strawn tower available from Caldwell-Morehead connector and not South Blvd. Also South Blvd southbound one lane closed and lots of traffic issues. I hope they open a lane by 4 pm. I walked from here to the Auto Show today.

[QCxpat]

Sunday's Charlotte Ledger, "Huge Swath of Dilworth to be gobbled up by Developer" by Tony Mecia and Michelle Crouch

"About 50 Dilworth houses between Atrium’s Carolinas Medical Center and East Boulevard (in red box) are on the verge of being owned by healthcare-related companies.  About two dozen homeowners on Garden Terrace, Fountain View and Scott Avenue have agreed to sell to a company linked to Summit Healthcare, a medical-office developer.  Separately, Atrium already owns about 25 houses in the area."

"Every house along two neighborhood streets in Dilworth is on the verge of being owned by healthcare-affiliated companies, as about two dozen homeowners have agreed to sell their land to a developer active in the area, real estate sources tell The Ledger."  "It’s a huge story for a high-profile section of Dilworth, as the pending sales crystalize worries about the growth of Atrium Health’s Carolinas Medical Center and could one day lead to a dramatic transformation one of Charlotte’s historic neighborhoods."  "The intrigue around Dilworth, which has quickly spread among neighbors in the last few days, centers on two residential streets off East Boulevard that dead end next to CMC: Fountain View Street and Garden Terrace. For years, Atrium Health has been purchasing houses on those streets. Atrium owns 14 of 19 residential parcels on Garden Terrace and 11 of 24 on Fountain View, for a total of about 6.6 residential acres in the area, according to a Ledger analysis of real estate records."  "Now, though, land brokers have persuaded the remaining homeowners on those streets, plus a handful of owners on nearby Scott Avenue, to sell, says Nick Lukens with Moseley Real Estate Advisors, which represents the Starbucks on East Boulevard."  “Any of the homes [on] Fountain View and Garden Terrace, if it’s not already owned by the hospital, it’s under contract,” he told the Ledger, based on conversations he said he has had with people familiar with the deals. Lukens said he didn’t know the identity of the company buying the houses."  "Two other sources with knowledge of the transactions identified the buyer as being linked to Summit Healthcare Group — the medical-office developer that recently bought the Starbucks and Key Man buildings and related commercial properties that face East Boulevard." 

Link:  https://charlotteledger.substack.com/

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This has been an issue for years in this area of Dilworth known among neighbors as the "four blocks." Scott, Garden Terrace, Fountain View, and Lombardy Circle. Some years ago it was general knowledge that selling to anyone except a hospital entity was difficult as they could outbid another individual, pressure owners, and once they controlled sufficient parcels an owner had property worthless to anyone except the single buyer, a monopsony.

[t_money]

Most interesting to me was the part about Atrium referencing 'the other company' and saying they don't have anything to do with it.  Seems like an odd place for a competitor to try and show up?

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The spokesman added that Atrium has no connection to Summit Healthcare: “We absolutely do not have anything to do with that other developer.”

 

[atlrvr]

But Wake Forest Baptist does.  I suspect this is where the medical school goes.

[t_money]

11 hours ago, atlrvr said:

But Wake Forest Baptist does.  I suspect this is where the medical school goes.

Let's hope it brings some interest in more retail stuff on East blvd with it...

[KJHburg]

all over Dilworth Morehead and Kenilworth corridor today.  

1. 2.  Duke Endowment and their new purchase the BBQ restaurant   3.  Lincoln apartments 4. Levine Cancer center  5.  Epicurean site wonder if I live long enough to see it developed?  6.7. new townhomes on Kenilworth 8. 9. 10. new Atrium MOB and new Realtors building

[t_money]

On 12/14/2019 at 6:46 PM, KJHburg said:

all over Dilworth Morehead and Kenilworth corridor today.  

1. 2.  Duke Endowment and their new purchase the BBQ restaurant   3.  Lincoln apartments 4. Levine Cancer center  5.  Epicurean site wonder if I live long enough to see it developed?  6.7. new townhomes on Kenilworth 8. 9. 10. new Atrium MOB and new Realtors building

That looks like a terrible place to try and get in and out of the garages.

 

On 12/14/2019 at 7:00 PM, Seabrooke said:

That scaffolding is absolutely horrifying! 

That's the "exclamation point on these buildings", not scaffolding.

On 5/31/2019 at 10:28 AM, AP3 said:

Haven't seen this posted yet.  Grading has begun for 12 new town homes on Kenilworth next to Solis Dilworth.  

 

 

[gman430]

[KJHburg]

Miscellaneous photos of Dilworth

1. will this lot be developed or sold or leased in 2020?   

2.3. new townhomes along Kenilworth with "flare"

[t_money]

Interesting article in the Ledger Newsletter.   Love the 'pass the popcorn' at the end.  4 towers?  It must be the whole block...

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Big pink building developer linked to Dilworth condo tower proposal

Sound the alarm — more big development news on a stretch of East Boulevard in Dilworth that’s been seeing a lot of activity lately.

Developers have told the city that they’re interested in building three condo towers and an office/retail tower between three and eight stories tall near the corner of East Boulevard and Lombardy Circle — close to Atrium Health’s Carolinas Medical Center. Here’s the full description from city records:

Ground level courtyard plaza over four level(s) of underground parking. [F]rom the courtyard will be four separate towers. Three are condos (individual for sale units) of varying height from 3 story to 8 story with a private residence pool on the rooftop of the three story tower. [T]he fourth tower is a five story office building with future retail/restaurant(s) at the courtyard level. [P]arking level will have drive entry off of Lombardy Circle and two loading dock areas within the building footprint (one serving the residential towers and one for the retail/office tower) also off of Lombardy Circle.

Eight-story East Boulevard condo tower? Developers told the city they’re exploring building four towers near a corner that has mostly office buildings.

 

City records list the contact as a senior project manager with DAS Architecture in Charlotte. He didn’t return an email over the weekend.

Word around Dilworth is that the developer behind the project is Jim Gross, best known for his work developing The Arlington in South End. It’s the 24-story pink residential tower off South Boulevard.

It’s unclear if the project would require a rezoning. Some of the parcels in the area are zoned for office use, while others are zoned for multifamily.

The Ledger reported last month that all the parcels on the two residential streets next to Lombardy — Garden Terrace and Fountain View — are either owned by Atrium or under contract to a company affiliated with medical-office developer Summit Healthcare. Summit bought several parcels along East Boulevard in the fall, including the site of the Starbucks at Scott Avenue.

Pass the popcorn.

 

Edited January 6, 2020 by t_money
fixed a formatting issue

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County records show that East Blvd Real Estate owns six contiguous properties, four on East from the upper Lombardy corner and two on Lombardy at the rear of the East properties. The  two rear properties facing Lombardy have no structures. They are vacant or office and residential currently in use and zoning is also office&residential. I drove past them today to see. 

For this size project might they have options or agreements on others in this block? The continuation of expensive condos wrapping from Kings/Queens corner of East is possible.

[kermit]

The Observer sez that my least favorite Dilworth landuse, Irontribe, will be replaced by my next least favorite Dilworth landuse, a cigar and whisky bar. 

215 E Worthington

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/whats-in-store/article239071698.html

I honestly miss the autoparts store.

[Blue_Devil]

On 12/16/2019 at 10:19 AM, t_money said:

That looks like a terrible place to try and get in and out of the garages.

 

That's the "exclamation point on these buildings", not scaffolding.

 

Anyone have listings for these town homes? I can't find them on Zillow

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2 hours ago, kermit said:

The Observer sez that my least favorite Dilworth landuse, Irontribe, will be replaced by my next least favorite Dilworth landuse, a cigar and whisky bar. 

215 E Worthington

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/biz-columns-blogs/whats-in-store/article239071698.html

I honestly miss the autoparts store.

Tom’s auto parts. To walk for part in midst of repair is an exceptional amenity. Gone: Tom’s and my car repair days.

[Windsurfer]

13 minutes ago, tarhoosier said:

Tom’s auto parts. To walk for part in midst of repair is an exceptional amenity. Gone: Tom’s and my car repair days.

You just described my life. ( I sell auto parts).  Gone too, are H & H, Dales where Dimensional is now, and a few others. 

The truth is, cars just don't break down anymore. When's the last time you changed your spark plugs or timing chain?

[turbocraig]

Every time I drive by this, I’m taken back to the house from the 80s movie ‘Ruthless People’.  I imagine the inside will look like this...

[Vitamin_N]

Oddly enough, I too was reminded of the 80s, specifically of late-80s Trapper Keepers:

 

 

[Matthew.Brendan]

 

 

 

Spot on. I guess we're in that late 80's early 90's zany aesthetic.