Centennial Tower

[Shakman]

Maybe the new structure will be canterlevered over the old one. But agreed -- not very likely.

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Structures can be retrofitted to take on additional loads. I have worked on jobsites as such.

[thatguy]

Structures can be retrofitted to take on additional loads. I have worked on jobsites as such.

My issue is not "can it be done", cause it can...but at what cost savings when compared to tearing it down and building new? There is not a lot of money in credits sitting in that building when looking at the $ of the entire project. They are not saving anything. The effort of "beefing" up the footings and structure is greater than starting new.

[Shakman]

My issue is not "can it be done", cause it can...but at what cost savings when compared to tearing it down and building new? There is not a lot of money in credits sitting in that building when looking at the $ of the entire project. They are not saving anything. The effort of "beefing" up the footings and structure is greater than starting new.

It can be greater in cost. Depends on the means and methods via the findings provided from the structural engineer on record for this project.

Of course no one knows for sure if the corner building will come down or not. From my conversation with the demo contractor superintendent for the current work, there company does not have a contract or been approached to take that building. Time will tell.

Edited January 31, 2008 by Shakman

[eyes]

I ask : " Why is there so much mystry surrounding this building's plan? " Why is there no transparency ?

[eyes]

by the way : No paving, just stone is being put down.

[Shakman]

Which tells me that they do not anticipate the lot being vacant for too long. I hope I am making a good analogy on saying that.

Has that two story white building come down?

Edited January 31, 2008 by Shakman

[wrldcoupe4]

I ask : " Why is there so much mystry surrounding this building's plan? " Why is there no transparency ?

It's a privately held property with no public funds being used for this project... is there a need for transparency?

Shakman, that building has come down as well...

[eyes]

It's a privately held property with no public funds being used for this project... is there a need for transparency?

Shakman, that building has come down as well...

Transparency is needed. Why ? I don't know.

the white building is 1/2 down. The basement remains.

[Shakman]

Transparency is needed. Why ? I don't know.

the white building is 1/2 down. The basement remains.

Why need transparency when the project could still be (or is) in design phase?

[Henry]

I spoke with a senior architect at Baskervill and "as far as he knows, the project is still moving forward" and "they are incorporating the corner building into the project". This particular architect is not working on Centennial.

Maybe they are using the old building to receive some historic tax credits. Does that loophole still exist? i know that Riverside on the James and The Turning Basin Building took advantage of it.

[Shakman]

I spoke with a senior architect at Baskervill and "as far as he knows, the project is still moving forward" and "they are incorporating the corner building into the project". This particular architect is not working on Centennial.

Maybe they are using the old building to receive some historic tax credits. Does that loophole still exist? i know that Riverside on the James and The Turning Basin Building took advantage of it.

Can you speak with that person again and ask about rough height of the structure?

[burt]

I spoke with a senior architect at Baskervill and "as far as he knows, the project is still moving forward" and "they are incorporating the corner building into the project". This particular architect is not working on Centennial.

Maybe they are using the old building to receive some historic tax credits. Does that loophole still exist? i know that Riverside on the James and The Turning Basin Building took advantage of it.

Henry, do you have any connections at Theys & Clancy in Raleigh? That firm is the new General Contractor and should have knowledge as to when construction will begin.

And what is this "white" building mentioned above? I inferred it was the corner building that Baskerville says will be incorporated into the tower.

[wrldcoupe4]

Burt, the white building sat in the center of the block behind the row of buildings along Main Street. It is part of the properties Goodstein Development owns.

[eyes]

Could it be that a Building permitt cannot be issued untill the reports from the demolition are scrutinized ?

[journiyin]

Could it be that a Building permitt cannot be issued untill the reports from the demolition are scrutinized ?

Or it could be that the architectural plans arent approved by the city as of yet.

That is the only transparency oppurtunity that I could see... someone could call the city to see about the submission.

[wrldcoupe4]

I don't think anything has been submitted to the city yet. I noticed they've taken the advertising boards off of the fence and the demo'ed area has been graveled over. Work is still continuing inside and outside on the building at 6th and Main. I bet the fence comes down for the sales center to open in that building, but can't confirm it....

[thatguy]

I don't think anything has been submitted to the city yet. I noticed they've taken the advertising boards off of the fence and the demo'ed area has been graveled over. Work is still continuing inside and outside on the building at 6th and Main. I bet the fence comes down for the sales center to open in that building, but can't confirm it....

Spot on, I agree.

[eyes]

Goodstein absolutely did not get the bagby parking lot.... nor the air rights as the endevor was pursued.

Beautiful Parking lot !

[wrldcoupe4]

I wasn't lying!

I noticed they were pouring concrete today to replace damaged sidewalk from demolition ... and the lot is graveled over. All of which is really reassuring... but we'll see I suppose.

[eyes]

hybernation is an interesting word.

[Shakman]

I wasn't lying!

I noticed they were pouring concrete today to replace damaged sidewalk from demolition ... and the lot is graveled over. All of which is really reassuring... but we'll see I suppose.

At least it is not an asphalt lot. If so, then I would be really worried.

I do anticipate this project to move forward.

[JSI]

I don't think anything has been submitted to the city yet. I noticed they've taken the advertising boards off of the fence and the demo'ed area has been graveled over. Work is still continuing inside and outside on the building at 6th and Main. I bet the fence comes down for the sales center to open in that building, but can't confirm it....

The barriers have come down and the sidewalks are open again.

[wrldcoupe4]

It looks like the gravel lot may be used for parking for the sales center.

[thatguy]

Could be used as parking for the sales office/model. ...

I agree.

[eyes]

Nothing happened again today. The fence is still arrainged nicely, and the stone is picturesque. They could make a little inter-city park if they wanted it to look nice. We could have our lunch there and watch the city grow around us.