Cool Stuff in Other Cities

[jrs2]

14 hours ago, orange87 said:

I was surprised to read the tallest building in Hartford (537 ft) is taller than the tallest building in Baltimore (529 ft). In other Hartford trivia; the Travelers Tower in Hartford (527 ft)  built in 1919 was the tallest building in the world outside of NYC at the time it was built.

there was an era of tallest buildings from closer to the turn of the century than we realize because some of these buildings have been demolished.  I went of a deep dive a while back regarding forgotten buildings from Chicago, and I was amazed at the size and heights involved.

[Ivanhoe]

14 hours ago, orange87 said:

I was surprised to read the tallest building in Hartford (537 ft) is taller than the tallest building in Baltimore (529 ft). In other Hartford trivia; the Travelers Tower in Hartford (527 ft)  built in 1919 was the tallest building in the world outside of NYC at the time it was built.

It would be great to see Baltimore get a new tallest at the Inner Harbor.  B-more has had some fantastic infill development in specific inner city neighborhoods this decade.

Hopefully the Governor’s decision to relocate 6000 state workers into vacant office space downtown in the next few years will speed up revitalization efforts in the CBD.

[orange87]

Developers propose Oklahoma City supertall to make it tallest building in U.S. (1,907 feet)

Article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/01/27/oklahoma-city-skyscraper/72371121007/

Edited January 27 by orange87

[jrs2]

[jrs2]

On 1/27/2024 at 4:28 PM, jrs2 said:

not a whole lotta Vegas fans I guess.

But I will say this...I was there for a week; stayed at Bellagio.  those shots were from my room.  What Vegas created back when Bellagio opened was a focal point for the city.  they got casinos coming out of their Nevada a5535 over there...yet...the Bellagio fountain is the center of the city based on what I saw going from MGM Grand north and past Wynn, etc.  the light show coordinates with the Paris Eiffel Tower across the street.

Aside from it looking like a star map to a portal to the Doom underworld, it has shows every 15 minutes beginning in the evening...to music.

And the water plumes shoot up to like 400'; maybe not in these photos,  but its an impressive tech.

[JFW657]

On 1/27/2024 at 2:00 PM, orange87 said:

Developers propose Oklahoma City supertall to make it tallest building in U.S. (1,907 feet)

Article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/01/27/oklahoma-city-skyscraper/72371121007/

How much you wanna bet this thing is completed before the Magic Entertainment Complex breaks ground? 

[shardoon]

So Miami Beach just went NIMBY and rejected the metromover extension. Now, the county can still ignore them, which personally I would....... but money talks

[jrs2]

On 2/22/2024 at 3:03 PM, shardoon said:

So Miami Beach just went NIMBY and rejected the metromover extension. Now, the county can still ignore them, which personally I would....... but money talks

Miami Beach, much like Marietta, don't want to have anything to do with the riff raff.  Just like with the Lymmo Line here.  So, The Braves told The ATL to take a hike too and moved to the one county (Cobb) with no MARTA line.  Telling.  The Bears told two consecutive Socialist Chicago mayors to take their $800m and stick it while making plans to move to Arlington, IL.  Big city mayors are subscribing to bad policies that their host party is pushing, like Sanctuary City BS tied into the open border crisis.  Why would you make it easy for vagrants and homeless and vagrants to ride over the Bay for literally nothing and panhandle tourists and high dollar residents?  It doesn't make any sense.

So, good for Miami Beach for not subscribing to this BS.   For example, when I'm at Bloomingdales in NYC, I don't need to walk by homeless people because the Subway is under there, and, when I'm at O'Hare, I don't need to have to suffer crazy homeless people literally in Baggage Claim at the American terminal, late at night or not, just because The El has a station underneath there too.  

[shardoon]

14 hours ago, jrs2 said:

Miami Beach, much like Marietta, don't want to have anything to do with the riff raff.  Just like with the Lymmo Line here.  So, The Braves told The ATL to take a hike too and moved to the one county (Cobb) with no MARTA line.  Telling.  The Bears told two consecutive Socialist Chicago mayors to take their $800m and stick it while making plans to move to Arlington, IL.  Big city mayors are subscribing to bad policies that their host party is pushing, like Sanctuary City BS tied into the open border crisis.  Why would you make it easy for vagrants and homeless and vagrants to ride over the Bay for literally nothing and panhandle tourists and high dollar residents?  It doesn't make any sense.

So, good for Miami Beach for not subscribing to this BS.   For example, when I'm at Bloomingdales in NYC, I don't need to walk by homeless people because the Subway is under there, and, when I'm at O'Hare, I don't need to have to suffer crazy homeless people literally in Baggage Claim at the American terminal, late at night or not, just because The El has a station underneath there too.  

So about Miami Beach. I was there recently, and I have to say, I am impressed. For half a decade, SouthBeach degenerated into riff raff. I never strolled past Lincoln because of it. Last weekend, I decided to see it again.

All I can say is...WOW. they cleaned it up. Sure, there is an occasional crazy from time to time, but at least during the day, it was great. They didn't even have a police presence, not did they need it. The street cafes on ocean were booming. No drama. 

The city is also rebelling against spring break. They are putting in curfews for alcohol and larger gathering at 12 pm. Closing the beaches at 6pm. Closing roads and making parking $100 flat fees. 

They have come away from the brink. Sure, they had to endure being called racists for the process of cleaning up spring break, but that's just noise from asholes if you ask me. 

As far as the metromover, it's short sighted. That's not the make or break for trash and urban outdoorsman. One can literally walk across the bridge in an hour.

What will keep homeless and vigrants out are strict policies to prevent them from setting up shop there. No public sleeping or panhandling. Tough crime laws. No loitering. No drug use. Common sense things and they won't come. Things the ruling parties in big cities seem to have a problem comprehending (won't name the party as to not get a few panties twisted here).

The metromover would be a great connection from Brikell. 

 

 

Edited February 24 by shardoon

[JFW657]

17 hours ago, jrs2 said:

Big city mayors are subscribing to bad policies that their host party is pushing, like Sanctuary City BS tied into the open border crisis.  Why would you make it easy for vagrants and homeless and vagrants to ride over the Bay for literally nothing and panhandle tourists and high dollar residents?  It doesn't make any sense.

Golly gee-whiz, didn't the host party of a certain group of law makers in the US House of Representatives just openly an shamelessly stand in the way of efforts by the Senate and the President to put tough new rules in place to shut down the border because they're more interested in helping a certain orange circus clown get reelected? Is that not an even bigger pile of BS? Isn't trying to deny a political victory for their orange clown's opponent at the expense of their own supposed goal of cutting off illegal entry via the southern border the real BS? 

Isn't it massively hypocritical to harp on one while turning a blind eye to the much greater policy failure of the other?

Hmmmmmmmm....  

2 hours ago, shardoon said:

The city is also rebelling against spring break. They are putting in curfews for alcohol and larger gathering at 12 pm. Closing the beaches at 6pm. Closing roads and making parking $100 flat fees. 

They have come away from the brink. Sure, they had to endure being called racists for the process of cleaning up spring break, but that's just noise from asholes if you ask me. 

What will keep homeless and vigrants out are strict policies to prevent them from setting up shop there. No public sleeping or panhandling. Tough crime laws. No loitering. No drug use. Common sense things and they won't come. Things the ruling parties in big cities seem to have a problem comprehending (won't name the party as to not get a few panties twisted here).

The metromover would be a great connection from Brikell. 

Why are people of a certain political affiliation (won't name the party as to not get a few panties twisted here), always going on about enforcing the law and getting tough on crime at the lower level of society, while excusing and defending people (won't mention the name of a certain orange criminal, traitor and insurrectionist) who have broken much more serious laws at the highest level?  

Isn't it massively hypocritical to call for tough enforcement of laws against homeless people who might disrupt a night of drinking and dining for well heeled pretty people, while ignoring high crimes against our government and Constitution by some wealthy grifter businessman? 

Hmmmmmmmm.... 

[shardoon]

5 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Golly gee-whiz, didn't the host party of a certain group of law makers in the US House of Representatives just openly an shamelessly stand in the way of efforts by the Senate and the President to put tough new rules in place to shut down the border because they're more interested in helping a certain orange circus clown get reelected? Is that not an even bigger pile of BS? Isn't trying to deny a political victory for their orange clown's opponent at the expense of their own supposed goal of cutting off illegal entry via the southern border the real BS? 

Isn't it massively hypocritical to harp on one while turning a blind eye to the much greater policy failure of the other?

Hmmmmmmmm....  

Why are people of a certain political affiliation (won't name the party as to not get a few panties twisted here), always going on about enforcing the law and getting tough on crime at the lower level of society, while excusing and defending people (won't mention the name of a certain orange criminal, traitor and insurrectionist) who have broken much more serious laws at the highest level?  

Isn't it massively hypocritical to call for tough enforcement of laws against homeless people who might disrupt a night of drinking and dining for well heeled pretty people, while ignoring high crimes against our government and Constitution by some wealthy grifter businessman? 

Hmmmmmmmm.... 

Sorry, I guess I missed the part about me defending Trump or this post having anything to do with Trump. Go ahead, you can untwist your panties. 

I'll gladly have this country enforce the laws on all sides of the political and socioeconomic spectrum equally and forcefully. 

Is that better? Panties untwisted now? Now we need to clean our freaking cities up.

[JFW657]

8 hours ago, shardoon said:

Sorry, I guess I missed the part about me defending Trump or this post having anything to do with Trump. Go ahead, you can untwist your panties. 

I'll gladly have this country enforce the laws on all sides of the political and socioeconomic spectrum equally and forcefully. 

Is that better? Panties untwisted now? Now we need to clean our freaking cities up.

Sorry, I guess I missed the part where I supposedly suggested that you've personally engaged in defending Trump here at UPO. 

My comments dealt with conservatives/Republicans in general.

If you, being a conservative, feel that implicates or reflects upon you, then that is something you'll need to work out with yourself.

OTOH, there is this quote from one of your earlier posts in another thread....

"Well, if he (Trump) did make it out of the primary and he is up against our current president, then I'm voting for him." 

 

And since what you posted about possibly happening in the following quote did not happen,

"Makes you wonder how the dum dums are gonna handle life if someone like Nikki Haley comes out winning the primary and not Trump. Goes completely against their fantasy of labeling the GOP trumpers."

....given Trump's win tonight in SC which pretty much seals the nomination, it looks like not only will you be voting for Trump as you claimed, but that labeling the GOP as Trumpers is apparently not a fantasy. 

But anyway, I've never seen you condemn or harp on Trump's crimes like you harp on the homeless and illegal immigrants. My point in mentioning Trump and his crimes, was to point out the hypocrisy of the right on the issues of law and order.

The right is all for enforcing the law when it comes to poor people who have nothing, but corporate, country club Republican Trumpy types can wipe their butts with the Constitution and you all just don't care. 

Also, if you have any ideas about how to "clean our freaking cities up" while at the same time, upholding the Constitutional rights of the people who you seem to want to dispose of like trash, I think a lot of people would be interested in hearing them. 

As for your obsession with my underwear, I don't understand what's behind it, but I think you could use a hobby.  

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Edited February 25 by JFW657

[shardoon]

8 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Sorry, I guess I missed the part where I supposedly suggested that you've personally engaged in defending Trump here at UPO. 

My comments dealt with conservatives/Republicans in general.

If you, being a conservative, feel that implicates or reflects upon you, then that is something you'll need to work out with yourself.

OTOH, there is this quote from one of your earlier posts in another thread....

"Well, if he (Trump) did make it out of the primary and he is up against our current president, then I'm voting for him." 

 

And since what you posted about possibly happening in the following quote did not happen,

"Makes you wonder how the dum dums are gonna handle life if someone like Nikki Haley comes out winning the primary and not Trump. Goes completely against their fantasy of labeling the GOP trumpers."

....given Trump's win tonight in SC which pretty much seals the nomination, it looks like not only will you be voting for Trump as you claimed, but that labeling the GOP as Trumpers is apparently not a fantasy. 

But anyway, I've never seen you condemn or harp on Trump's crimes like you harp on the homeless and illegal immigrants. My point in mentioning Trump and his crimes, was to point out the hypocrisy of the right on the issues of law and order.

The right is all for enforcing the law when it comes to poor people who have nothing, but corporate, country club Republican Trumpy types can wipe their butts with the Constitution and you all just don't care. 

Also, if you have any ideas about how to "clean our freaking cities up" while at the same time, upholding the Constitutional rights of the people who you seem to want to dispose of like trash, I think a lot of people would be interested in hearing them. 

As for your obsession with my underwear, I don't understand what's behind it, but I think you could use a hobby.  

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I'm impressed that I personally took that much time out of your day for that post of yours. 

Back on point, which you tried so hard to ignore. 

The problem with some lefties, not all, but the ones in power in the big cities (and aparently you) is that you feel people have constitutional rights to loiter anywhere they want, block public sidewalks, sleep anywhere they want, litter everywhere, do drugs on the streets, piss and $hit out in the open on the streets, pan handle anywhere, refuse mental health treatment when it is very apparent they are a danger to themselves and others, commit crimes and not be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law ( or in some cases lefties changing the law to minimize consequences), gather as a crowd that becomes lawless and violent (ie the spring breakers in South beach).

So lefty, tell me, those constitutional rights?

News flash, those are not rights. If cities wanted to create ordinances and laws, or even simply enforce the ones on the books, the cities become more livable. It's not rocket science. 

Miami Beach has done a pretty good job and I commend them. 

Not gonna even get into your Trump histrionics because that will just distract you from the topic at hand. I know everything in life is about Trump for some people, but get a grip, there is more to life than Trump, whether he is in power or not. 

These simple ideas are done at the local level, not at the federal level. 

Edited February 25 by shardoon

[Uncommon]

Isn’t there a politics thread?

[shardoon]

3 minutes ago, Uncommon said:

Isn’t there a politics thread?

I guess there is. I simply brought up the Miami Beach voted against the metromover expansion which was short sighted in my opinion. Others then commented about the riff raff that they were trying to keep out. I mentioned how good of a job they did cleaning the city up as of late and that I do not think the metromover expansion would contribute to that. Then somebody who lives, breaths, sleeps, and eat all things with a topic of Trump chimed in. 

But you are right, it did veer off topic. Or maybe it didn't because what Miami Beach did with cleaning up their city is in fact a cool thing in another city. 

[JFW657]

1 hour ago, shardoon said:

I guess there is. I simply brought up the Miami Beach voted against the metromover expansion which was short sighted in my opinion. Others then commented about the riff raff that they were trying to keep out. I mentioned how good of a job they did cleaning the city up as of late and that I do not think the metromover expansion would contribute to that. Then somebody who lives, breaths, sleeps, and eat all things with a topic of Trump chimed in. 

But you are right, it did veer off topic. Or maybe it didn't because what Miami Beach did with cleaning up their city is in fact a cool thing in another city. 

My response is in the LOCAL and Florida Politics thread. 

[shardoon]

2 hours ago, JFW657 said:

My response is in the LOCAL and Florida Politics thread. 

Not interested in your political diatribes. Just stopped in to talk about the people mover in Miami. Enjoy your time talking to an empty room about your Trump obsession. Carry on. 

[JFW657]

50 minutes ago, shardoon said:

Not interested in your political diatribes. Just stopped in to talk about the people mover in Miami. Enjoy your time talking to an empty room about your Trump obsession. Carry on. 

Yeah, sure.  

You and I both know you read it.

Just admit that when presented with facts and logic, your argument falls flat on its face. 

[orange87]

Set for Hartford growth spurt, UConn seeks to offer downtown student housing

Article: https://www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/set-for-hartford-growth-spurt-uconn-seeks-to-offer-downtown-student-housing?fbclid=IwAR3bq49Y3Qjp12kHvpsPX5zyY3uZ8UVxssvgrdkhAZR_k8Fr4CQr5ElQqdE

[jrs2]

On 2/24/2024 at 11:07 AM, JFW657 said:

Golly gee-whiz, didn't the host party of a certain group of law makers in the US House of Representatives just openly an shamelessly stand in the way of efforts by the Senate and the President to put tough new rules in place to shut down the border because they're more interested in helping a certain orange circus clown get reelected? Is that not an even bigger pile of BS? Isn't trying to deny a political victory for their orange clown's opponent at the expense of their own supposed goal of cutting off illegal entry via the southern border the real BS? 

Isn't it massively hypocritical to harp on one while turning a blind eye to the much greater policy failure of the other?

Hmmmmmmmm....  

I'm specifically focusing on a general unwillingness by Dem run cities to prosecute. We are in Florida, but, we saw in Orlando how the former newer DA came up with a concocted "pre-charge diversion" program that nobody else in her office even knew about (I can attest to this personally, as I have before).  It was supposed to be Pre-Charge Diversion once all the arrestee's data is already in the system, not a good faith pledge by the arrestee to make good "or else" (wink wink).  So, people in Miami Beach see this,  and whatever may be going on in Miami proper, and do what they can do short of arming up and shooting criminals ala Death Wish...they vote.

On a similar note...

There is a reason MARTA doesn't go to Cobb, and there is a reason why The Braves moved there.  The Miami Beach Nancy Reagan Just Say No thing ala Metromover is similarly aligned with the MARTA example.  Less so with The Chicago Bears example because METRA still has a station in Arlington, IL.

[Ivanhoe]

Cobb County is where transit goes to die. There’s nothing to be proud about there. There’s also nothing that connects it to why Metromover is unpopular with the folks in Miami Beach. 

[jrs2]

On 3/5/2024 at 1:27 PM, Ivanhoe said:

Cobb County is where transit goes to die. There’s nothing to be proud about there. There’s also nothing that connects it to why Metromover is unpopular with the folks in Miami Beach. 

easy access by the riff raff?  is there any other reason to shoot down a mass transit stop by Miami Beach?  they're doing fine without it.

Seriously... take the Home Depot in WP on Lee Rd.  Do you know how many panhandlers harass the customers in the parking lot?  Yeah, they do.  And a lot of them are just going back and forth to the Lynx stop right in front there on Lee Rd.  I have sat and watched their patterns.  And I've seen it with other Lynx stops.  For me, if I was looking to move, the first thing I am going to look for is to see where the closest Lynx stop is...and then consider not moving there.  That's why suburbs exist.

Pride?  The residents of Cobb shot MARTA down time and again for their vested reasons.  You don't live in Cobb, so passing judgment on them is improper.  And you've never lived in Atlanta either, have you?  I have.  And, I've ridden MARTA, and been in the neighboring counties and Fulton.  And it has gotten progressive-ly worse since then.

The Cobb example directly correlates to MetroMover and Miami Beach.  Vagrants do not have a right to harass workers for money.  And they don't have a right to have tax payers pay for their "free" transportation to make it easier to do so. 

This whole "transportation equity" business is just utterly ridiculous.  There are privileges and then there are rights.  People on the left tend to lump those two categories into one to suit their needs. 

And for the record, I personally am proud of Cobb residents and The Braves for telling the City to go f*ck themselves just like The Bears did to Chicago.  Because enough is enough.  Now, these cities see that there are consequences for their failed policies.

On a related note, the 49ers also moved to San Jose from SF Proper, not to mention the fact that Oakland lost it's two major league franchises to LV.  I told people a long time ago that no major investor is going to spend $$$ in DTO if The City doesn't get things under control.  

But, if you are of the ilk that looks forward to improved public space UNDERNEATH AN EXPRESSWAY, then... I don't know what else to tell you.  Tampa gets people like Vinik dumping $$$ billions while FDOT allots money for public space in the Orlando Underground, like a bunch of rats.

Now, THAT, is nothing to be proud of...

[jrs2]

On 3/5/2024 at 1:27 PM, Ivanhoe said:

Cobb County is where transit goes to die. There’s nothing to be proud about there. There’s also nothing that connects it to why Metromover is unpopular with the folks in Miami Beach. 

I will make a concession.

Even though I believe everything I wrote in my response above, I weigh that against the dynamic of interconnectivity.  When that is the main consideration, I believe MetroMover should not only go to SoFi, but also to PortMiami.  And once that is done, they need to jack the price so it's not a high tech shuttle for the homeless, like Lymmo is for DTO.

[orange87]

Former Boston-based biotech firm set to debut new CT HQ

Article: https://www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/former-boston-based-biotech-firm-set-to-debut-new-ct-hq

[orange87]

Take a look at this. There are thousands of old buildings like this in CT. Many of them are abandoned. Some of these buildings are 200+ years old and they're just being left to rot. It's a shame. I know it takes a lot of money to decontaminate these old buildings, but I love it when they renovate and reuse them as apartments, warehouse space etc. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I love old architecture and think these dilapidated buildings are still beautiful.