Ivanhoe

Why are you afraid of democracy in

What is your desire to defend this person?

Have you ever been to California.

You didn’t need to clear that up. I don’t take you seriously.

I cannot decipher this ramble.

You’re confusing sensitivity for power. By the way, I’m not your personal punching bag. Go somewhere else before I have to help you.

Did I click the link? Do you mean that I have very sound and rational understanding of things? I can reason between differences? Yes- I “clicked” the link.

Are you employed at all? I would suggest therapy to which whatever loser company actually allows you around.

^Honest question - when was the last time you were there? Things require maintenance and updating. To answer your question: Yes. It is one of the oldest stadiums out there without a sports team that bring in millions a year from other venues.

It could be worse. Come back without your guns. Clean your trailer

These people do not know anything about the nuances they post.

The dum dums would be lucky with Haley. You know — those neo-Nazi, white nationals that your party and likely your brain. Instead, it’ll be “take her by the ” Trump. Your God.

You’ve given me everything.

I once debating people in a classroom, know it’s a silly soom of MAGAS.

I’m reminded of a professor in my journalism days who told me that you just have to let people speak. They want to and they’ll give you the story or the bread scrums…

Have spent a lot of time in Providence over the years. Thinking about it, it’s not a bad comparison to what Orlando is or could be. They are not on a major body of water directly downtown. They have at least a dozen neighborhoods that thrive that surround the downtown area and a decent CBD. They were able to achieve bringing retail downtown and spent major investment in streetscaping and beautification. Obviously Brown is lightyears ahead of the UCF downtown location, but it’s generally the same proximity. Perhaps the best spot for a convention center downtown is the Magic entertainment center plot. Throw in a few hotels with it and it could thrive.

Posted a few weeks ago, but just read about the upgrade to Miami Metromover: https://www.miamitodaynews.com/2023/10/17/county-putting-metromover-in-shape-to-expand/

Major city downtowns cannot really be self-sustaining if there isn’t an influx of out-of-town dollars coming in. Orlando is unique in that it is so decentralized that despite the 60+ million visitors, I would guess that maybe 1% of them visit downtown or even know it really exists. Even those visitors who are going to KSC or the beaches do not pass downtown. It wasn’t always like this. In the heydays of Church Street Station, downtown was getting a few million visitors a year. We all know the ending — Disney did not like visitors leaving the resort and thus opened Pleasure Island. It was followed by Citywalk. Given that both employers make up a huge percentage of the population and the incentives to spend their off time and money there, Church Street effectively died overnight. I do find it interesting that a lot more people are aware of Winter Park and have at least some curiosity about it. It does appear in a lot of “top 10” lists that make their way around. The Visit Orlando campaign also proves this point. They run commercials in major markets across the country and largely focus on theme parks or what I assume is Wekiva Springs. I truly don’t understand why Visit Orlando is campaigning for Disney or Universal when they already do it themselves and better. I suspect that is one of the reasons they did not receive tourism tax funds. Yet, DTO got the Unbelievably Real mural on an empty ugly lot. Somewhat comical.

It is your behavior that is being observed, not mine. What is the sexual predatory nonsense you are blabbering on about? I do agree though, that’s about as normal a response as you’ve provided. Touché!

The reason why Republicans cannot win elections is neatly summed up in the last 2-3 pages of this thread. Keep it up, pretty please! Really, please!

There was also a huge music festival this weekend that likely contributed to a larger number of pedestrians. All hotels were at capacity this weekend downtown. And to me, that is key. DTO needs tourists to support it.

Sarasota plays to a very different demographic than DTO. If there is a comparison to be drawn locally I would say it is more in line with Winter Park or Maitland. St. Pete is a better example of how far DTO has fallen behind.

Division Ave (which seriously needs to be remained) is the most obvious way to extend Lymmo to Amtrak.

I can absolutely see Brightline bypass Tampa to Westshore — it’s near a lot of development land and the airport. Tampa couldn’t even get the Rays to Ybor despite years of grappling.