Downtown Orlando Project Discussion

[bic]

I came across a number of nice photos on Trans4mation.org of the I-4/408 interchange construction that have not been posted on here so while some are kinda old, I figure it's better late than never.

March 21, 2008

March 2008

April 2008

June 2008

June 2008

July 21, 2008

July 21, 2008

This rendering of the finished product hasn't been posted in a while:

[Theflytyr]

^^^ I am still having a hard time visualizing I-4 WB goint to the 408 EB in the last Photo.............maybe I'm jsut missing it! Any Help???

[FLheat]

^^^ I am still having a hard time visualizing I-4 WB goint to the 408 EB in the last Photo.............maybe I'm jsut missing it! Any Help???

It looks like it would come off the Anderson exit ramp and go above Anderson St and the 408, then under the 408W to I4W exit ramp and connect to the I4E to 408E Exit Ramp

[bulldogger]

Is that going to happen when I-4 is widened?

[mgsports]

Good to see a much safer Highway their and Off and On Ramps not close to each other.

[Boomer136]

Good to see a much safer Highway their and Off and On Ramps not close to each other.

Reminds me of Texas. Is there any other four layer interchanges in Florida?

[bulldogger]

Well, the I-4 off ramp to South Street and Garland wasn't open today. According to Bic's post from Trans4mation, it could be Wednesday. I will probably head towards Millenia for something completely unnecessary just to have a reason to drive the new ramp.

[JRS1]

Well, the I-4 off ramp to South Street and Garland wasn't open today. According to Bic's post from Trans4mation, it could be Wednesday. I will probably head towards Millenia for something completely unnecessary just to have a reason to drive the new ramp.

I can't wait 'till that opens.

[bic]

The new I-4/South Street ramp opened Monday morning.

Source

[JRS1]

I did the new ramp on Monday.

the right-most lane is 408 only. the one to the left is for South St. it works fine, b/c the backed up traffic for 408 is still to the right.

the ramp is 2 lanes wide. it hugs the tracks as you go to South St. it puts you under the 408, Anderson St., Anderson to I-4, and 408 to I-4 ramps one after the other, and creates a gateway into DT that is very bi-cityish. I was very impressed. all you see is bridges as you enter. then all of the sudden- pow, the Suntrust cluster. If they build the Hilton, that will be the first thing you see when you hit the light at South.

[tennis32801]

Does anyone know how to get to downtown from I-4 heading east? Seems that exit 82C (exit left to south street) is now discontinued.

Also, i gotta rant about the free lymmo bus. I use it alot to go from central to the TD Waterhouse for tennis. The bus will stop for a long time even when there are no traffic , and on top of that, when the light is green on the car lane, the bus still wait awhile before it can proceed. Oh, and the passengers smells too......

[mgsports]

http://www.trans4mation.org/ shows of Picture of I-4 and has so on about the area.

Shopping Carts are only for to shop with not to take on a Highway or so on.

Edited August 29, 2008 by mgsports

[bulldogger]

Does anyone know how to get to downtown from I-4 heading east? Seems that exit 82C (exit left to south street) is now discontinued.

Also, i gotta rant about the free lymmo bus. I use it alot to go from central to the TD Waterhouse for tennis. The bus will stop for a long time even when there are no traffic , and on top of that, when the light is green on the car lane, the bus still wait awhile before it can proceed. Oh, and the passengers smells too......

The bus lane has its own light, so every intersection where the Lymmo runs has essentially 3 light patterns instead of the normal 2. If you look up at the light, the go signal is when the white line is vertical. The caution (yellow) is when it is diagonal and the stop is a horizontal line. It has nothing to do with whether there are cars. As someone on here stated awhile back, the auto traffic should be dependent or secondary to the bus line and not the other way around (the way it is now).

Now, the passengers that smell are another story. That's the homeless that ride the bus to have something to do besides sit at the same bus station all day.

This is really off base here, but we need to organize a Homeless Olympics in Orlando. My girlfriend came up with the idea...

100 meter Shopping Cart would be a crowd favorite.

4 x 100 meter Shopping Cart

My suggestion is Find the Chicken Bone in the Garbage Can

[pip]

Does anyone know how to get to downtown from I-4 heading east? Seems that exit 82C (exit left to south street) is now discontinued.

Also, i gotta rant about the free lymmo bus. I use it alot to go from central to the TD Waterhouse for tennis. The bus will stop for a long time even when there are no traffic , and on top of that, when the light is green on the car lane, the bus still wait awhile before it can proceed. Oh, and the passengers smells too......

Info on new exit:

http://www.trans4mation.org/?id=286

[tennis32801]

thanks for the info. I agree with making the auto lane secondary to the busline. I sometime feel i can walk faster than taking the bus.

Maybe the Food Not Bombs folks can host the homeless olympics. Instead of medals 3rd place will be food, 2nd place is booze, and 1st place is cigarettes.

[facilities man]

The bus lane has its own light, so every intersection where the Lymmo runs has essentially 3 light patterns instead of the normal 2. If you look up at the light, the go signal is when the white line is vertical. The caution (yellow) is when it is diagonal and the stop is a horizontal line. It has nothing to do with whether there are cars. As someone on here stated awhile back, the auto traffic should be dependent or secondary to the bus line and not the other way around (the way it is now).

Now, the passengers that smell are another story. That's the homeless that ride the bus to have something to do besides sit at the same bus station all day.

This is really off base here, but we need to organize a Homeless Olympics in Orlando. My girlfriend came up with the idea...

100 meter Shopping Cart would be a crowd favorite.

4 x 100 meter Shopping Cart

My suggestion is Find the Chicken Bone in the Garbage Can

Synchronized panhandling... Set two bums up on each side of the street...

Points deducted for throwing up.

[FLheat]

This is really off base here, but we need to organize a Homeless Olympics in Orlando.

Yes, off base and tasteless. Let's try to provide solutions.

Edited August 28, 2008 by FLheat

[bulldogger]

Well, when they stop breaking and entering my office building almost every night and leave a mess, I'll start respecting them. When I ask them to leave, I am the one that is usually badgered by them as they leave. Call me tasteless while you're at it. Thanks. When someone smears feces all over your bathroom stall walls, see if you have respect for those people. That's tasteless.

As for a solution, do you go out and help them on any level? I doubt it. You say, "let's try to provide solutions." What are you doing? Is it something for you to talk over dinner? Action speaks louder than words. Will you give up a room in your home to help just one life??? Again, I doubt it.

Everyone's a philospher on this board.

Can't wait for my warning. Whatever.

Edited August 28, 2008 by bulldogger

[JRS1]

^^

LOL!

[EngineerNole]

Homeless people (bums) have no one to thank except themselves. I have no respect for them.

[mgsports]

lets get back on the Topic. The exit after it could help you out. The Toll Roads are fine the way their are only if they are expanding the Roads then they would be expand.

[Theflytyr]

thanks for the info. I agree with making the auto lane secondary to the busline. I sometime feel i can walk faster than taking the bus.

Maybe the Food Not Bombs folks can host the homeless olympics. Instead of medals 3rd place will be food, 2nd place is booze, and 1st place is cigarettes.

"The Bumlympics"

[Go Gators]

lets get back on the Topic. The exit after it could help you out. The Toll Roads are fine the way their are only if they are expanding the Roads then they would be expand.

[neon9]

Washington Post advocates raising gas tax:

Recent experience with higher gasoline prices and lower oil consumption confirms something we have long maintained: A serious national energy policy would include a higher federal per-gallon tax on gasoline. Just a 19-cent increase in the tax, which is currently 18.4 cents a gallon, would lock in the incentives to conserve that have been lost during the past month's price decline.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8090303164.html

[Migman]

Washington Post advocates raising gas tax:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8090303164.html

How about splitting this proposed gas hike between the feds and the locals to fund mass transit projects? Maybe then we'll finally get something viable in central FL.