Proposed I-410

[yis2003yis]

I think the loop going down florida and airline will be great...like houston and new orleans....the westbank express way in new orleans....you have a interstate and 3 lanes under or on side of it...alot of business and entertainment will form from it.....and florida blvd needs new development bad

[MobileLSUboy09]

yea, whats up with it going up airline? I noticed that and thought it looked new, so i went back and look at the older maps, and the airline route is something they just added. Its a bad idea though. They whole point of the loop, is to make more roads, to take cars off preexisting roads. Turning airline into a toll road really dosnt solve that problem at all, and would probably only make traffic worse. We need more highways, not just running new highways over already conjested areas.

...exactly...

[Gauge]

I think the loop going down florida and airline will be great...like houston and new orleans....the westbank express way in new orleans....you have a interstate and 3 lanes under or on side of it...alot of business and entertainment will form from it.....and florida blvd needs new development bad

Agreed. I like the idea of the loop running down Florida and Airline. I would especially like that idea if the loop was an elevated freeway with the existing Florida and Airline remaining intact beneath. It would be a big economic boom for this highly developed but under utilized area of town. Also, it would provide both an alternative to I-10 for local travelers while still serving the function of a loop to route people around the heavily congested I-10.

Regarding the spaghetti look of the current routes, I have a feeling that they will end up straitening it out for the final route. If not, there would be so many sharp turns that the speed limit would have to be 45 mph or lower. Maybe they just do not want to release the exact route until the city has had a chance to acquire the land. If people knew the exact route, the price of land in the area would probably sky rocket.

[buckett5425]

I still disagree with running the loop up airline, because it dosnt create an easier route to get around the city and it really dosnt look like a short cut, half of it runs parrell with the interstate only maybe five miles south of it. The point of the loop is to get through traffic off of the interstate, so city traffic wont be backed up so much, and also so people going to central or south BR wont be using north and south running surface streets, they can just drive straight there relieveing even more traffic. Also, if you look up the proposed 410 loop on wikkipedia, they mention how when planning the interstate back in the 80's, or when ever it was, to run from I12 up airline to the Huey Long that they decided it wasnt feasible. It would complicate and increase traffic, rather then solve problems. What the need to do is keep airline the way it is, a major city highway, but make it controlled access. That way, we will have airline and a new loop. So we have two roads for cars to drive on and not just one, dosnt that just make more sense?

Here is a simple diagram of what the loop would look like on a map, you can't tell me it dosnt look stupid running so close to the already existing interstate.

[richyb83]

Building elevated an route over the entire way of Florida Blvd & Airline Hwy??? Yeah right! No way they could afford all of that!

I think they start Phase I of the loop(by-pass) in WBR conecting I-10 near Hwy. 415 over the Intracoastal and hook the Miss. River bridge near Brusly; follow Nicholson thru the beloved Pinnacle casino; hook under the Bluff Swamp/Spanish Lake Preserve headed to I-10 near Tanger/Cabela's in Gonzales. This will allow NOLA Metro to head west toward Lafayette, Houston, etc. w/o driving thru the BR gridlock!

By that time all that is finally finished; Holden will be long gone from office and the rest of the loop is doubtful to ever take off. JMO

[twstdndmntd]

Your proposed Florida route passes right by my house. Talk about kill the area.

[dan326]

Here what it would look like on a map if they took a moderate route.

[BRPJ]

Airline is no place for a LOOP. I think Airline and florida are GREAT candidates to be turned into expressways, because they connect different sides of town together and have tons of traffic. But the loop should be outside of that.

[buckett5425]

I was also reading another article on the advocate, they have about four or five right now on the loop lol, and it was mentioned twice in the article that they will be building a new bridge over the miss for the northern route, and not try to retro fit the huey. If thats their plan i hope they build the bridge further from the huey, and not right next to it, that way there will be more options for people crossing the river. To me, building a bridge right next to another just seems like a waste of money. So if all goes to plan, we will have 4 bridges in baton rouge to cross the river and not just two.

[richyb83]

^ That map Dan posted above^ southern route would slash right across this scene here.

Environmentalists: Loop would hurt

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/15898517.html

Environmentalists contend that two southern routes under consideration as part of the Baton Rouge Loop would damage Spanish Lake and Bluff Swamp,

[twstdndmntd]

Airline is no place for a LOOP. I think Airline and florida are GREAT candidates to be turned into expressways, because they connect different sides of town together and have tons of traffic. But the loop should be outside of that.

You say Airline and Florida are great candidates for the loop but you say that Airline is no place for a loop? My house is about 4 blocks from Florida and I can tell you if they even attempt to put it there I'll fight it and make sure all of my neighbors know what is trying to be done. Florida is not a good place for that, there is too many houses and businesses that would be affected by it.

[buckett5425]

You say Airline and Florida are great candidates for the loop but you say that Airline is no place for a loop? My house is about 4 blocks from Florida and I can tell you if they even attempt to put it there I'll fight it and make sure all of my neighbors know what is trying to be done. Florida is not a good place for that, there is too many houses and businesses that would be affected by it.

I think you accidently misunderstood BRPJ. He says that airline and florida are a horrible place for the loop, and they the loop should be built around the city. But he then says that airline and florida should be made into expressways. Which to me means controlled access, kinda how it is by cortana, and east down florida from airline. Which to me makes perfect sense, it gives br a better network roads and allows the loop to do what it is supposed to do, funnel interstate traffic around the city, not through.

[twstdndmntd]

I think you accidently misunderstood BRPJ. He says that airline and florida are a horrible place for the loop, and they the loop should be built around the city. But he then says that airline and florida should be made into expressways. Which to me means controlled access, kinda how it is by cortana, and east down florida from airline. Which to me makes perfect sense, it gives br a better network roads and allows the loop to do what it is supposed to do, funnel interstate traffic around the city, not through.

[BRPJ]

[dinner roll]

Here come the NIMBY's.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/16004572.html

[dan326]

I think those people should have thought about what would be developed before they moved to nowheresland. . All I can say is that the government has eminent domain so . . .

When I get my own house I'm going to move somewhere that is completely developed so I can know exactly my future surroundngs

[yis2003yis]

Loop officials to tour Texas toll facilities

Officials involved with the Baton Rouge Loop project will travel to Dallas and Austin, Texas on March 6-7 to tour Texas toll facilities and meet with officials there to share information and discuss issues relevant to the Baton Rouge Loop project, which will be funded largely with tolls. Four of the five presidents of the directly affected parishes will attend; J. Mitchell Ourso Jr. of Iberville Parish will not attend, and all participants are covering their own expenses, according to a project spokeswoman. Also, public meetings about the project will be held today at the North Park Recreation Center in Denham Springs, Thursday at the Port Allen Community Center and Monday at the Plaquemine Civic Center. All meetings are scheduled from 4-7 p.m. --David Jacobs

it's great to know they are working with tx on this project for advise

[BRPJ]

it's great to know they are working with tx on this project for advise

Yes, i think Texas is the best they could talk to on this subject

[twstdndmntd]

Well they've narrowed the routes on the south side between 10 and the river to 2, we are running out of routes. LOL I think we'll have big problems when it comes to that swamp. With all the opposition and looking at what we have left for routes, I don't think we'll end up with a viable loop.

[cajun]

There is way too much zig zag going on on the northern route.

Why does everyone assume that you can't build over sensitive areas? It can be done with minimal impact on the ecosystem .

If you've got the money, I have the way to do it. I think a bridge near Brusly and going near Spanish Lake is the best route to take right now.

[twstdndmntd]

I think the northern most route that goes threw southern Central City, north of the airport and north of SU is the most promising one and the one that would do the most good. The whole point of a loop is to bypass as much development as possible. That is why I say going down Florida and Airline is not the best possible route. By taking that route you are funneling traffic into an already burdoned area of the city. As far as the southern loop, I'm sure they can come up with something that will have as little impact on that swamp as possible. Course I grew up in a coastal parish, I see nothing special about swamp and marshland, especially when we are this far north. We are once again having alot of problems with the eastern parishes I really think we could build the eastern most side of the loop completely in EBR parish. It would be tough but I really think we could do it. If they want to fight so much let them deal with the traffic that they will be left to deal with by living on the outside of the loop. Just my thoughts........

[BRPJ]

There is way too much zig zag going on on the northern route.

Why does everyone assume that you can't build over sensitive areas? It can be done with minimal impact on the ecosystem .

If you've got the money, I have the way to do it. I think a bridge near Brusly and going near Spanish Lake is the best route to take right now.

I agree. The nothern loop is just thrown wherever, I think the northern loop should go further north.

[MobileLSUboy09]

I agree. The nothern loop is just thrown wherever, I think the northern loop should go further north.

i dont know if it should go any further north, but it needs to be smoother lines otherwise it will just look stupid and be a pain for drivers haha

[buckett5425]

Have ya'll noticed how biased the Advocate is being in reporting on information relatated to the loop. Something tells me the editor dosn't like the idea of the loop. For every 100 people they quote in the paper against the loop, they only quote one person in support of it. Also, for everyone 100 stories they report , only 1 is in support of the loop. Now I know those numbers where a little exagerated, but to me, thats how it looks. I have also noticed the advocate being biased in some political stories. Either not covering them at all, or spining them. I am beginning to lose some respect for this paper.

[yis2003yis]

Have ya'll noticed how biased the Advocate is being in reporting on information relatated to the loop. Something tells me the editor dosn't like the idea of the loop. For every 100 people they quote in the paper against the loop, they only quote one person in support of it. Also, for everyone 100 stories they report , only 1 is in support of the loop. Now I know those numbers where a little exagerated, but to me, thats how it looks. I have also noticed the advocate being biased in some political stories. Either not covering them at all, or spining them. I am beginning to lose some respect for this paper.

You are so right......i can't remember what the man that's on the news in the morning but..he sat down with one of the CEO's from pinnacle...and he had a copy of that mornings paper...the advocate said that...St. George's fire department said they would not be able to cover that area because it was a big risk..but hey called St. George's fire department and they said that the statement in the advocate was false...thats when i began to wonder