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Neo City

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Yes, I understand that Houston is known for it's role in space. I still don't see where Houston ranks among the big boys as an International competitor. Houston is nowhere near a tier 1 city, I'm not sure how foggy it is down there in Houston but it must be pretty darn foggy because you can't see the forest for the trees regarding International aspects. Houston is definately a big boy in the US, but when you put it up against other world cities it would drown itself in shallow waters. The very first flight took place at Kill Devils Hill, NC but I don't go around saying that place is International. I the airplane is much more important than space venture for most people. The cities in the Middle East that provide most of the oil aren't considered to be tier 1 cities and International players, why would Houston be any different just because it imports the oil or refines it? It takes a lot more than just a one or two faced city to measure up and Houston just does not have that capability right now. In the future I'm sure it will, but right now it's just a growing US city, nothing more.

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H-townrep Unincorporated Area

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I could grab pics of the rest of Houston's skylines however I'd have to also grab the other skylines from the other cities I listed. All of them have them so it wouldn't be right to do it just for Houston now would it?

go ahead. It's just that you gave a close up view of Houston and that is not nearly all of there skyline. You are missing about 20 or so scrapers/highrizes

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Yes, I understand that Houston is known for it's role in space. I still don't see where Houston ranks among the big boys as an International competitor. Houston is nowhere near a tier 1 city, I'm not sure how foggy it is down there in Houston but it must be pretty darn foggy because you can't see the forest for the trees regarding International aspects. Houston is definately a big boy in the US, but when you put it up against other world cities it would drown itself in shallow waters. The very first flight took place at Kill Devils Hill, NC but I don't go around saying that place is International. I the airplane is much more important than space venture for most people. The cities in the Middle East that provide most of the oil aren't considered to be tier 1 cities and International players, why would Houston be any different just because it imports the oil or refines it? It takes a lot more than just a one or two faced city to measure up and Houston just does not have that capability right now. In the future I'm sure it will, but right now it's just a growing US city, nothing more.

Most people before the war call Baghdad a tier 1 city, same for Egypt so I have no idea what you mean. The other places don't have cities that are large, so oil is all they got. If not for oil it would done. Can't say the same for Houston. You have not presented one argumet to why Houston is not tier one with the exception of saying it isn't New York, just like a lot of people will say New York ain't Tokyo. In all the important areas with the exception of media coverge/entertainment. Houston is in the tops. Tell what it lacks internationally. Houston is in the top 5 in what cities from the U.S has offered internationally. Fortune magazine. April 2004. Listed as number three in international trade.

I'm justing asking to tell me why it isn't tier one.

Tier one

Mexico City

NY

Chi

Tor (for you Canadians)

Hou

Sf

D.C

LA (media acclaim)

Tier 2

Dallas

Atl

Det

Sea

Bos

Tier 3

Mia (tier 2)

Phi

etc.

Mon

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You have not presented one argumet to why Houston is not tier one

I was going to say the same thing... :lol:

C'mon, Baghdad a TIER 1 city? You must live in Amsterdam because here in the US, whatever you're smoking is illegal!

Yeah, I missed about 20 scrapers for Houston, but you failed to mention me missing more than that for Chicago, hundreds for NYC, hundreds more for Tokyo as well.

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H-town rep, most of the world identifies the US space program with Florida, not Houston. First because that is were all manned space flight takes off and second it is where the Shuttle lands. Mention space program, and people will say Cape Caniveral or Cape Kennedy, not Houston.

Second, Houston would be nothing but a suburb in the presence of Tokyo. At best you could compare to Yokohama there, but Yokohama is much more dense and has a more interesting skyline.

Isn't Yokohama a suburb of Tokyo, Metro?

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#1 in biotech?  Not anytime soon apparently...

San Diego, Boston, and Raleigh-Durham have the top three spots sewn up pretty well...

Heck, I can't even find the word Houston on that list...someone help me, I've apparently lost my glasses.

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Heck, I can't even find the word Houston on that list...someone help me, I've apparently lost my glasses.

Interesting point considering Boston, MA was the only metro to be considered as a CMA! I suppose then, that the top 3 list might be:

SF-San Jose

San Diego

Raleigh

Still, Houston doesn't appear to even be on the radar screen. ;)

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H-townrep, Houston is just too small to be in a top tier. Houston and its suburbs is well under 4 million people at 3,800,000 people.

This is so true, I wanted to post the urban area population numbers the other night, but I didn't feel like looking them up. Houston's urban area is almost 1.2 million smaller than Miami's and a far cry from Chicago's 8.5 million. You can't be in tier one level being that small. But its definately a tier two city and there's nothing to be ashamed of that.

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This is so true, I wanted to post the urban area population numbers the other night, but I didn't feel like looking them up. Houston's urban area is almost 1.2 million smaller than Miami's and a far cry from Chicago's 8.5 million. You can't be in tier one level being that small. But its definately a tier two city and there's nothing to be ashamed of that.

When it comes to being Tier 1 it has to do with the city. Most of the other cities listed ahead of Houston in metro size has another city of size in it's own right, Especially Dallas, SF, Det, Boston and Washington D.C. It takes two or three cities to make there metro large than Houston's so get off it. Houston Byitself would make these other cities so small. SF, Boston, D.C, Miami all have less than 750,000 people.

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When it comes to being Tier 1 it has to do with the city. Most of the other cities listed ahead of Houston in metro size has another city of size in it's own right, Especially Dallas, SF, Det, Boston and Washington D.C. It takes two or three cities to make there metro large than Houston's so get off it. Houston Byitself would make these other cities so small. SF, Boston, D.C, Miami all have less than 750,000 people.

We've already gone over the fact that it's not about population, but what the hell...

Boston may have under 750K in it's city proper.

However, in 2000*, Houston had 1,953,633 people in 617 square miles. If Boston swallowed up it's neighbours to grow to Houston's area, it would be...

City|Town/Area/Population*

Arlington/5.18/42389

Avon /4.35/4443

Belmont/4.59/24194

Boston/43.68/589141/13487.6 Density

Braintree/13.7/ 33828

Brockton/21.37/94304

Brookline/ 6.62/57107

Burlington /11.84/22876

Cambridge/6.25/101355

Canton/19.01/20775

Chelsea/1.86/35080

Cohasset/9.86/7261

Dedham/10.05/23464

Dover/15.16/5558

Everett/3.36/38037

Hingham/22.46/19882

Holbrook/7.3/10785

Hull/ 2.43/11050

Lexington/16.48/30355

Lincoln/14.56/8056

Lynn/10.47/89050

Lynnfield/10.22/11542

Malden/5.08/56340

Marblehead/4.4/20377

Medford/8.21/55765

Melrose/4.73/27134

Milton/13.1/26062

Nahant/1.04/3632

Natick/14.88/32170

Needham/12.5/28911

Newton/17.9/83829

Norwell/20.97/ 9765

Norwood/10.47/28587

Peabody/16.45/48129

Quincy/16.5/88025

Randolph/10.08/30963

Reading/9.84/23708

Revere/5.95/47283

Salem/7.99/40407

Saugus/10.58/26078

Scituate/16.9/17863

Somerville/3.93/77478

Stoneham/6.03/22219

Stoughton/16.25/27149

Swampscott/3.08/14412

Wakefield/7.35/24804

Waltham/12.41/59226

Watertown/4.06/32986

Wayland/15.92/13100

Wellesley/10.05/26613

Weston/17.17/11469

Westwood/11.15/14117

Weymouth/16.7/53988

Whitman/6.7/13882

Winchester/5.9/20810

Winthrop/1.56/18303

Woburn/12.86/37258

TOTALS

Greater Boston - Area=619.49 - Population=2,443,374 - Density=3944

Houston - Area=617 - Population=1,953,633 - Density=3166

*I could only get 2000 figures for all cities and towns.

What does all this prove? Absolutely nothing. A city's size is but one way to classify it.

PS: Here's what Boston would look like if it were the size of Houston:

Greater-Boston.jpg

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