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On 10/7/2022 at 8:45 PM, prahaboheme said:

This riveting discussion about AOC reminded me that her alma mater is nearing completion on the largest net zero carbon emissions building in the northeast:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/new-boston-university-building-to-use-no-fossil-fuels-2020-2%3famp

Damn those liberal elites!

Also, it’s pretty cool. I walked around it last week. 
 

 

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that resembles that project that was originally supposed to go across from the OCCthse.  Pretty cool indeed.  Is that like 12+ stories tall?

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Why Ian May Push Florida Real Estate Out of Reach for All but the Super Rich

“Lately, Florida has been making reinsurers increasingly unhappy.

One common complaint is the ease with which policyholders can sue insurance companies in Florida. Last year, while Florida accounted for just 7 percent of all homeowners’ claims in the United States, it saw 76 percent of all homeowners’ lawsuits against insurers, according to data released in July from the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation.

Another is continued home construction in coastal areas. In 2011, then-Governor Rick Scott, a Republican, closed the state agencythat had limited home building in vulnerable areas, calling it an impediment to growth. Coastal construction jumped: Between 2010 and 2020, the population of Lee County, hit especially hard by Hurricane Ian, grew by almost one-quarter.”

There he goes again. Skeletor is a walking disaster area all on his own (did we mention him taking the Fifth 75+ times in his company’s Medicare fraud trial?).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/climate/florida-real-estate-hurricane-ian.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

From The New York Times 
 

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11 minutes ago, spenser1058 said:

Another is continued home construction in coastal areas. In 2011, then-Governor Rick Scott, a Republican, closed the state agencythat had limited home building in vulnerable areas, calling it an impediment to growth. Coastal construction jumped: Between 2010 and 2020, the population of Lee County, hit especially hard by Hurricane Ian, grew by almost one-quarter.”

We are well aware of how to build to withstand hurricanes. Putting houses on stilts if they're coastal and building to the wind code standard that is literally code would have survived the hurricane with just minor damage. And many did. Thankfully, Rick Scott's forward thinking meant the state collected record tax revenue from all of that new construction, and he made a dent in our homeless problem since his leadership led to growth in the area by almost one quarter. Without avoiding a ban on building houses that people want and are willing to pay for, and to take the risk on their own, tons of people would be homeless, literally, by definition. Tents don't do well in hurricanes.

 

10 minutes ago, spenser1058 said:

 (did we mention him taking the Fifth 75+ times in his company’s Medicare fraud trial?).
 

I know you're probably not aware of this, but the purpose of the fifth is to avoid wrongful twisting of people's words and forcing confessions from people. The purpose is not some sort of get out of jail free card like you make it seem, pleading the fifth doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong or guilty or anything, infact, it says the opposite: that it should not be held against you.

 

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22 minutes ago, spenser1058 said:

Why Ian May Push Florida Real Estate Out of Reach for All but the Super Rich

“Lately, Florida has been making reinsurers increasingly unhappy.

One common complaint is the ease with which policyholders can sue insurance companies in Florida. Last year, while Florida accounted for just 7 percent of all homeowners’ claims in the United States, it saw 76 percent of all homeowners’ lawsuits against insurers, according to data released in July from the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation.

Another is continued home construction in coastal areas. In 2011, then-Governor Rick Scott, a Republican, closed the state agencythat had limited home building in vulnerable areas, calling it an impediment to growth. Coastal construction jumped: Between 2010 and 2020, the population of Lee County, hit especially hard by Hurricane Ian, grew by almost one-quarter.”

There he goes again. Skeletor is a walking disaster area all on his own (did we mention him taking the Fifth 75+ times in his company’s Medicare fraud trial?).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/climate/florida-real-estate-hurricane-ian.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

From The New York Times 
 

well, what's laughable is that Republicans are getting blamed for a lawsuit phenomenon that has been spearheaded by a Democrat that you name dropped in the Homeless thread...and lauded to boot...

So is Skeletor to blame for Ian now?  Seriously?

That's like blaming the original settlers for colonizing Florida and then blaming the US for then purchasing it from Spain, to become a state where northerners can retire to and avoid the cold and arthritis, a place that is also in the path of hurricanes.  Using that standard then New Orleans shouldn't exist either.  Time to blame the Socialist French while we're at it.

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53 minutes ago, jrs2 said:

well, what's laughable is that Republicans are getting blamed for a lawsuit phenomenon that has been spearheaded by a Democrat that you name dropped in the Homeless thread...and lauded to boot...

So is Skeletor to blame for Ian now?  Seriously?

That's like blaming the original settlers for colonizing Florida and then blaming the US for then purchasing it from Spain, to become a state where northerners can retire to and avoid the cold and arthritis, a place that is also in the path of hurricanes.  Using that standard then New Orleans shouldn't exist either.  Time to blame the Socialist French while we're at it.

Well. I’m happy to say go on over and work on the lawsuit side, it’s a mess.  Btw, John Morgan supports Republicans and Democrats and is a registered independent.

Now, let’s talk about Rick. You remember Rick, who prohibited state employees, even those who work in that field, from talking about climate change. The data is now pretty clear that storms are getting worse because of it (Ian is looking to have roughly twice the monetary impact of Andrew in constant dollars).

As  the article mentioned, he removed what protections there were to keep development out of areas unsuited for it (Florida once had the model in the nation for growth-management protections - those got tossed as soon as a certain party took office).

Given it was mostly his voters who got wiped out by his greed, I guess I could just approach it like he does and say “stuff happens”. I can’t do that, though, because of a thing called empathy. Or as Atticus Finch would say, “ You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view…until you climb in his skin and walk around in it.”  So, it’s important we do better and when we fail (especially because of someone’s avarice), we call it out. 

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1 hour ago, aent said:

We are well aware of how to build to withstand hurricanes.

Not really. Yes, we can certainly do better with wind then we did pre- Andrew. Maybe we'll learn how to better build for water after Ian, but in the end, we likely still won't build to mitigate for storms that produce events way outside of the norm. It's hard to build an urban environment on stilts- see Houston 2017. The issue is storms do appear to be larger, stronger and more impactful. Btw, having looked at a lot of construction in Bay County since 2018, they haven't learned a damn thing.

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19 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

Why Ian May Push Florida Real Estate Out of Reach for All but the Super Rich

“Lately, Florida has been making reinsurers increasingly unhappy.

One common complaint is the ease with which policyholders can sue insurance companies in Florida. Last year, while Florida accounted for just 7 percent of all homeowners’ claims in the United States, it saw 76 percent of all homeowners’ lawsuits against insurers, according to data released in July from the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation.

Another is continued home construction in coastal areas. In 2011, then-Governor Rick Scott, a Republican, closed the state agencythat had limited home building in vulnerable areas, calling it an impediment to growth. Coastal construction jumped: Between 2010 and 2020, the population of Lee County, hit especially hard by Hurricane Ian, grew by almost one-quarter.”

There he goes again. Skeletor is a walking disaster area all on his own (did we mention him taking the Fifth 75+ times in his company’s Medicare fraud trial?).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/climate/florida-real-estate-hurricane-ian.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

From The New York Times 
 

I think Scott is being unfairly maligned. All of those homes in Lee and Collier built in the last 20 years were in existing neighborhoods. It is not like Cape Coral sprung up in the last decade. The author does not quite get to the root of the insurance problem. 

This is a typical New York Times article. Mix in facts with partisanship that throws the argument off. 

18 hours ago, AmIReal said:

Not really. Yes, we can certainly do better with wind then we did pre- Andrew. Maybe we'll learn how to better build for water after Ian, but in the end, we likely still won't build to mitigate for storms that produce events way outside of the norm. It's hard to build an urban environment on stilts- see Houston 2017. The issue is storms do appear to be larger, stronger and more impactful. Btw, having looked at a lot of construction in Bay County since 2018, they haven't learned a damn thing.

We have built for the wind. It is the surge that is hard to account for unless you build on stilts. No new house on the beach should be built without some flood mitigation. 

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19 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

Well. I’m happy to say go on over and work on the lawsuit side, it’s a mess.  Btw, John Morgan supports Republicans and Democrats and is a registered independent.

Now, let’s talk about Rick. You remember Rick, who prohibited state employees, even those who work in that field, from talking about climate change. The data is now pretty clear that storms are getting worse because of it (Ian is looking to have roughly twice the monetary impact of Andrew in constant dollars).

As  the article mentioned, he removed what protections there were to keep development out of areas unsuited for it (Florida once had the model in the nation for growth-management protections - those got tossed as soon as a certain party took office).

Given it was mostly his voters who got wiped out by his greed, I guess I could just approach it like he does and say “stuff happens”. I can’t do that, though, because of a thing called empathy. Or as Atticus Finch would say, “ You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view…until you climb in his skin and walk around in it.”  So, it’s important we do better and when we fail (especially because of someone’s avarice), we call it out. 

That mainly concerned concurrency and other planning issues from a state level. It gave more control to counties and cities. Also, many of the duties of DCA were assigned to other state agencies. 

Issues with water management, floodplain and wetlands are still handled at the state level. That author has no idea what he is talking about. 

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21 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

Well. I’m happy to say go on over and work on the lawsuit side, it’s a mess.  Btw, John Morgan supports Republicans and Democrats and is a registered independent.

Now, let’s talk about Rick. You remember Rick, who prohibited state employees, even those who work in that field, from talking about climate change. The data is now pretty clear that storms are getting worse because of it (Ian is looking to have roughly twice the monetary impact of Andrew in constant dollars).

As  the article mentioned, he removed what protections there were to keep development out of areas unsuited for it (Florida once had the model in the nation for growth-management protections - those got tossed as soon as a certain party took office).

Given it was mostly his voters who got wiped out by his greed, I guess I could just approach it like he does and say “stuff happens”. I can’t do that, though, because of a thing called empathy. Or as Atticus Finch would say, “ You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view…until you climb in his skin and walk around in it.”  So, it’s important we do better and when we fail (especially because of someone’s avarice), we call it out. 

I'm an independent.  

Let's just say M&M has a large division that handles roofing claims, and since they are the nation's largest firm, they likely have the largest number of those claims, hence being responsible for any bad results in the insurance industry resulting from that.  Just saying...

Climate Change:  climate change versus global warming? so, which is it now?  And what data are you pointing to about which phenomenon, because the Liberals did a really good job of morphing the argument and dumping the moniker of "global warming" and instead pushing climate change; both mean something different.  And you cite to "the data."  Ian was the first hurricane to hit Florida since Irma in 2017, right? And before Irma was the Charlie trio in 2004, right?  And before that was Floyd in 1999?  Katrina was in 2008 I think.  Is the "data" that clear?

Rick Scott's voters got wiped out by his greed?  Uh...okay...

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12 minutes ago, jrs2 said:

I'm an independent.  

Let's just say M&M has a large division that handles roofing claims, and since they are the nation's largest firm, they likely have the largest number of those claims, hence being responsible for any bad results in the insurance industry resulting from that.  Just saying...

Climate Change:  climate change versus global warming? so, which is it now?  And what data are you pointing to about which phenomenon, because the Liberals did a really good job of morphing the argument and dumping the moniker of "global warming" and instead pushing climate change; both mean something different.  And you cite to "the data."  Ian was the first hurricane to hit Florida since Irma in 2017, right? And before Irma was the Charlie trio in 2004, right?  And before that was Floyd in 1999?  Katrina was in 2008 I think.  Is the "data" that clear?

Rick Scott's voters got wiped out by his greed?  Uh...okay...

We had the largest number of claims in a year when we had no named storms. That is why fraud is being raised. If we had an Ian last year it would have made sense. The state legislature needs to get to work on this. I do not know about you all, but everyone I know had their insurance policies massively increase last year. All of our commercial properties as well. 

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7 minutes ago, jrs2 said:

I'm an independent.  

Let's just say M&M has a large division that handles roofing claims, and since they are the nation's largest firm, they likely have the largest number of those claims, hence being responsible for any bad results in the insurance industry resulting from that.  Just saying...

Climate Change:  climate change versus global warming? so, which is it now?  And what data are you pointing to about which phenomenon, because the Liberals did a really good job of morphing the argument and dumping the moniker of "global warming" and instead pushing climate change; both mean something different.  And you cite to "the data."  Ian was the first hurricane to hit Florida since Irma in 2017, right? And before Irma was the Charlie trio in 2004, right?  And before that was Floyd in 1999?  Katrina was in 2008 I think.  Is the "data" that clear?

Rick Scott's voters got wiped out by his greed?  Uh...okay...

CO2 (carbon dioxide) is released into the atmosphere when you burn fossil fuels. As the global population rapidly increases and the amount of energy we use increases, the amount of CO2 released into the atmosphere increases. As you can see from the chart, as the level of CO2 increases in our atmosphere, so too does the Earth's temperature. So yes, the Earth is warming, and it is causing changes to the Earth's climate.

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2 hours ago, jack said:

We had the largest number of claims in a year when we had no named storms. That is why fraud is being raised. If we had an Ian last year it would have made sense. The state legislature needs to get to work on this. I do not know about you all, but everyone I know had their insurance policies massively increase last year. All of our commercial properties as well. 

hail damage claims is a biggie.  there have been a lot of claims based on these micro-burst storms and hail damage storms.  they are legit...it doesn't have to be a hurricane to cause damage like that.  my prior HOA did a hail damage claim that dragged on for close to three years...and in the end...the insurance company folded and the State had to take over.  They paid, though.

the problem is...and I won't tote a party line on this subject, @spenser1058but it is no secret that the GOP is in bed with the insurance companies and has been for quite some time.   so Spenser isn't that far off with his GOP complaints.  So now, what is the answer? Insurance is gambling.  Our agent describes it as such.  the more claims the higher the premiums and the greater the likelihood an insurance company folds or leaves the state.  We were told by our agent to get whichever kind of a warranty on a new roof they offered because the trend in Florida is not good.

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The Charley Johns era has returned to the state’s flagship university:

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/opinion/2022/10/16/uf-secretive-ben-sasse-president-choice-sacrifices-legitimacy/10494987002/

From The Daytona Beach News Journal

Rep. Randy Fine’s comments, the Brevard carpetbagger who wanted to shut down UCF, were particularly telling.

Fun Fact from the column:

The school Sasse previously had experience at had fewer students than Daytona Mainland High School.

And, unlike previous political appointees who served as president of Florida universities (we should note that, as the flagship school and the state’s  only AAU entry, UF always felt itself above such things in the past), at least picks like John Thrasher and Betty Castor knew their way around Tallahassee, from where the funding flows.


 

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City Issues New Downtown Entertainment Regulation Updates:


https://bungalower.com/2022/10/16/city-issues-new-downtown-entertainment-area-regulation-updates/

From Bungalower 

If the bar owners balk, that’s a major bloc removed from the Buddy coalition and it will just be the developers keeping him in office.

It’s telling that Jim Gray’s comments on downtown show Buddy’s wobbly with the rest of the real estate industrial complex.
 

 

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On 10/14/2022 at 7:23 PM, jrs2 said:

hail damage claims is a biggie.  there have been a lot of claims based on these micro-burst storms and hail damage storms.  they are legit...it doesn't have to be a hurricane to cause damage like that.  my prior HOA did a hail damage claim that dragged on for close to three years...and in the end...the insurance company folded and the State had to take over.  They paid, though.

the problem is...and I won't tote a party line on this subject, @spenser1058but it is no secret that the GOP is in bed with the insurance companies and has been for quite some time.   so Spenser isn't that far off with his GOP complaints.  So now, what is the answer? Insurance is gambling.  Our agent describes it as such.  the more claims the higher the premiums and the greater the likelihood an insurance company folds or leaves the state.  We were told by our agent to get whichever kind of a warranty on a new roof they offered because the trend in Florida is not good.

Go after fraudulent contractors is a start. 

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19 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

The Charley Johns era has returned to the state’s flagship university:

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/opinion/2022/10/16/uf-secretive-ben-sasse-president-choice-sacrifices-legitimacy/10494987002/

From The Daytona Beach News Journal

Rep. Randy Fine’s comments, the Brevard carpetbagger who wanted to shut down UCF, were particularly telling.

Fun Fact from the column:

The school Sasse previously had experience at had fewer students than Daytona Mainland High School.

And, unlike previous political appointees who served as president of Florida universities (we should note that, as the flagship school and the state’s  only AAU entry, UF always felt itself above such things in the past), at least picks like John Thrasher and Betty Castor knew their way around Tallahassee, from where the funding flows.


 

I have followed the Senators career since he was first elected to the senate. The idea that he won't be fair shows his opposition has never spent more than 5 minutes looking into his background. He has always came across as a knowledgeable, fair minded conservative who respects all of his fellow Americans. 

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2 hours ago, jack said:

I have followed the Senators career since he was first elected to the senate. The idea that he won't be fair shows his opposition has never spent more than 5 minutes looking into his background. He has always came across as a knowledgeable, fair minded conservative who respects all of his fellow Americans. 

Unless of course you happen to be gay, right, Jack? Funny thing about straight white males - it’s all good if it doesn’t affect them. Just like in Charley Johns’ day. Sasse also eliminated tenure at his school while president just like Johns set out to do. Yes, I know you hate tenure but it came about to keep wackos from trying to fire professors and teachers just because they don’t like them. Think it’s not necessary? Well, Tallahassee legislators have been busy trying to keep faculty in Gainesville from doing anything they don’t like in the past few years. As for teachers, please feel free to visit any school board meeting and watch the “Moms For Liberty” (who DeSantis supports) in action.

And you wonder why Florida can’t hire enough teachers. Of course, in the much-loved by the GOP charter schools a teacher doesn’t even have to graduate high school so that’s not a problem for them (see the Sentinel’s extensive series on lack of standards for charter schools for more on that).

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/scott-maxwell-commentary/os-prem-op-florida-voucher-schools-unqualified-teachers-scott-maxwell-20210327-yi55yhzehvd23n64liqy4ix4vi-story.html
 

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21 hours ago, jrs2 said:

true...but...you gotta have photographic evidence of damage.  the insurance company sends out their inspectors too; they don't pay in a vacuum...

That seems to be the primary source which I was unaware of until I spoke to people that had minor damage and a roofer convinced the homeowner's insurance to replace the entire thing. 

Ultimately, the market is telling us where and how we should build. The government can create rules to make it as fair as possible and go after fraudsters but the biggest mistake the gov't made was when they created Citizens. 

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21 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

Unless of course you happen to be gay, right, Jack? Funny thing about straight white males - it’s all good if it doesn’t affect them. Just like in Charley Johns’ day. Sasse also eliminated tenure at his school while president just like Johns set out to do. Yes, I know you hate tenure but it came about to keep wackos from trying to fire professors and teachers just because they don’t like them. Think it’s not necessary? Well, Tallahassee legislators have been busy trying to keep faculty in Gainesville from doing anything they don’t like in the past few years. As for teachers, please feel free to visit any school board meeting and watch the “Moms For Liberty” (who DeSantis supports) in action.

And you wonder why Florida can’t hire enough teachers. Of course, in the much-loved by the GOP charter schools a teacher doesn’t even have to graduate high school so that’s not a problem for them (see the Sentinel’s extensive series on lack of standards for charter schools for more on that).

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/scott-maxwell-commentary/os-prem-op-florida-voucher-schools-unqualified-teachers-scott-maxwell-20210327-yi55yhzehvd23n64liqy4ix4vi-story.html
 

No state in the country has an easy time hiring teachers regardless of where you are. It is not a desirable profession for many young people. 

There is no evidence the Senator has ever discriminated against a sexual minority. 

And yes, I do not believe in tenure. 

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42 minutes ago, jack said:

That seems to be the primary source which I was unaware of until I spoke to people that had minor damage and a roofer convinced the homeowner's insurance to replace the entire thing. 

Ultimately, the market is telling us where and how we should build. The government can create rules to make it as fair as possible and go after fraudsters but the biggest mistake the gov't made was when they created Citizens. 

no, there is some truth to that as well; it is a "thing."  they will convince you and try to convince the insurance company.  but I've never met an adjuster that just rolled over on their employer for the sake of a claimant.  what I've seen is a perfectly good roof that's 12+ years old being denied replacement (after serious damage) from a carrier b/c of its age after Ian.  And that's just ridiculous.  My hoa had a 16yo roof that was in pretty good shape and the carrier wouldn't cover it at all.  

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22 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

Unless of course you happen to be gay, right, Jack? Funny thing about straight white males - it’s all good if it doesn’t affect them. Just like in Charley Johns’ day. Sasse also eliminated tenure at his school while president just like Johns set out to do. Yes, I know you hate tenure but it came about to keep wackos from trying to fire professors and teachers just because they don’t like them. Think it’s not necessary? Well, Tallahassee legislators have been busy trying to keep faculty in Gainesville from doing anything they don’t like in the past few years. As for teachers, please feel free to visit any school board meeting and watch the “Moms For Liberty” (who DeSantis supports) in action.

And you wonder why Florida can’t hire enough teachers. Of course, in the much-loved by the GOP charter schools a teacher doesn’t even have to graduate high school so that’s not a problem for them (see the Sentinel’s extensive series on lack of standards for charter schools for more on that).

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/scott-maxwell-commentary/os-prem-op-florida-voucher-schools-unqualified-teachers-scott-maxwell-20210327-yi55yhzehvd23n64liqy4ix4vi-story.html
 

So your position is that only Democrats care about gay rights, I gather.  Well, lets think about this; You have Ronald Reagan Jr making commercials during the Superbowl for Atheist.org saying "I'm gay and I'm going to hell" with a big smile on his face.  How stupid is that?  Good, Ron Jr., be sure to give my regards to  Mephostopheles while your there.  People see stuff like that, and are like 'are you kidding me?' I've never heard you denounce Ron Jr for that BS.

It kind of goes like this...well, it didn't make the news until DeSantis made some moves.  But for decades Liberals have been infiltrating the education system, and a byproduct of this has been that they have been indoctrinating students.  Well, the proof is in the pudding, when the teachers' guild protests DeSantis' moves claiming 1st Amendment violations.  Why?  Because they can't teach the curriculum?  Because they can't teach off their syllabus?  No.  Because they want to right to preach to kids Liberalism.  Tough.  Get a job in California.  DeSantis won't put up with it, his constituents won't put up with it, the population as a whole won't put up with it, parents won't put up with it, and a majority of the students are downright sick of it (the older ones, not the innocent 3rd graders).  

That's how Liberals still exist in this country; they have to start them off young and put these ideas in their heads (brainwashing) and then when they reach voting age, they're holding up signs and marching around Lake Eola when they don't get their way.  So don't be p!ssed at DeSantis, make a general disparaging statement to parents at large in the State of Florida because they just 'don't get you,' and see what kind of pushback you get.

How biased: you said the tenure issue came about "to keep wackos from trying to fire professors and teachers."  Well, it's really the other way around; it was put in place to keep wacko professors and teachers from getting fired.  Because, at the end of the day, why fire an accomplished professor that brings clout to the institution?  There is no reason to.  And as Kurt Russell's Wyatt Earp stated to Johnny Tyler "THAT...is a fact."

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Hundreds of Osceola residents ask commissioners to slow growth
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/osceola-county/os-ne-osceola-county-commissioners-traffic-problem-20221018-f5lkfayho5hw7nrvtoaoxun5mq-story.html

From The Sentinel 

Osceola commissioners pointed out that most of their control has been taken away by the usual suspects in Tallahassee.

Remember when we had Home Rule?
 

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