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This is what I was talking about earlier, but couldn't say anything about it. They had been in discussions for a while.

Yes. There is a difference isn't it. Now they have to step their game up. They are going to have to take their highway, off the shelf designed, hotel off the table and really get serious about what's suppose to be done.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys.

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I seriously doubt it will be wegman's. That would put them way outside of where any of their other stores are. The odds are that it's either Lowe's or Harris Teeter's. Better yet just go to the site plan. They already gave a hint to who is going supposed to go there.

That's the 10th. My bad.

You can focus on both the plaza and street sides of the buildings. Like walk and chew gum at the same time. They can do it. It was just convenient and easier to do it the way they did. And the city just isn't going along with the plan either.

Hold on. In reference to the main street question. I meant the the focus SHOULD BE ON MAIN STREET as well as the other surrounding streets, when talking about the camperdown development. But the separate conversation about the focus of other developers should be OFF main street. The people who read my post with confusion well.... I can't say what you were thinking. I am a little confused myself when only one word threw a lot of you. Considering most of you read the entire post. And thus you shouldve knew what I was trying to say. And in regards to the Columbia remark. They are trying to connect a lot of their downtown areas. Spes you know what I'm talking about. I will give credit where credit is due. This development needs to be looked at again. The developers knew it and that's not a bad thing. We need the best thing built when it gets built. Because there are no do overs.

^^It's unfortunate that they are having to delay these buildings for approval, but the layout of their site plan may have been a little more problematic than they may have anticipated. Like I said earlier. The future of this property, as we see it now, would not increase the pedestrian feel in that particular part of downtown. With all the entrances of the buildings focused on the plaza, you in essence create and accentuating the dead areas already surrounding the property. We have plenty of dead spots as it is. Examples: Townes Street between Park Ave and College, Spring St between Washington and McBee. There are plenty more, but I know you get what I'm talking about. We have to, believe it or not, have to take the focus off of Main street. To increase the vitality of our downtown we have to expand outward. Our neighbor to the south, Columbia, is doing a very good job of that. Both cities are closer in downtown development than a lot of people want to admit. and they both want to keep that way. But back on subject, The city wants that area and other under developed area like it to thrive, people want to go to places that are inviting, and developers go to where the people are. But that will not happen between blank walls. I'm glad someone said, lets pump the brakes on this and reexamined it to see what can be done to make this better.

Ground breaking at 10am. This may go up faster than we think.

You are so right about that. That's why I said it. I noticed that in the new apartments being built on Laurens road. They look good. But overkill. Let's start seeing more out of the box thinking.

Well I'm really not a fan of the gabled look. When its in. Its in. But when its out. Well.... We don't want to talk about that. I also agree that boxed look is getting a little over done. Just wish they could be a little more imaginative. there needs to be something there with real staying power. Because we all know how short our attention spans are.

Yeah jet-set that picture was a little off to me as well. A lot of times it's supposed to show a representation of what's supposed to be there. But this one wasn't there. As for the roofs, well I think they're supposed to match the roofline of the buildings across church street. I'm hoping there can be some changes to those also.

There are a lot of celebrities who come to Greenville all the time. Most come unnoticed and they like it that way. They want to be like normal people. Stress free.

^^^ What is wrong with you? I think you're sick and need a little help.

Now before I get all the moans and groans, I have to agree with redcliff. This building looks a little to much like what's already here. And yes you could place this building off any highway and it wouldn't be special. Now don't get me wrong. I like it. But the orientation is wrong. Matter of fact the orientation of the whole project is wrong. I know why they did it, because of the topography. Like with hotel, it's like the back of the building is to Main St. Bad ju-ju. Matter of fact, all of the buildings are facing away from the street. Except for one, the four story building. There are two sides of it that are inviting to pedestrians from the street, that is. No other building does this. Now I know they had to place the focus somewhere. I just couldn't image that they couldn't be a little more imaginative than what's planned. I am pretty sure they can do better. But I do have to say this to, Redcliff. These are not the final products, Remember the four story building was reviewed three or four times. All of these buildings have to be reviewed. That's the reason for the process. So we all need to keep this in mind.

I thought they were supposed to be working in the parking lot of the church. Not the main portion of it. But I do agree that would be a travesty for anything to happen to that building. Particularly with it being in the historic district. We have seen stranger things happen lately.

What a shame. What a shame. I thought those days were over and done with. Your whole statement was asinine. To put people down because you know don't know why they behave the way they do is beyond me. Look I do know what you are trying to say. As a society there's got to be a way of making these areas less prominent. With more integration of the classes. West Greenville is a start as well as a few others in the city. But the kinds of comments like yours do not help.

Never mind. I just reread somethings a few pages back.

Yeah I saw that. But what happened? They went from 8, to 7, to 5. Now don't get me wrong, I do like it. Was just wondering. But I figuring since 2 floors are initially set to be used. 7 or even 8 would've been overkill. So never mind.

It's alright GoGreen. Your issues shouldn't be expressed this way. It should be directed towards city hall. We don't technically set policy, even though some of us think so, the folk on city council do. If you don't like what you are seeing, say something. Better yet run for office. There is nothing worst than a back seat driver. And yes, I do speak on a lot of subjects, my council person knows me by my first name. Matter of fact a lot of them do. So stop all the ranting on UP and do something about it.

Where is this coming from?

I use it as well. It will get more use as people try to find alternatives to using Woodruff Road. The more routes we have the more we alleviate the traffic problems. That's just simple math. 1 road =100%, 2 roads = 50% etc etc etc.

For anybody who lives or have go on that side of Greenville. They know it's needed. This bridge became special because clt started talking about it. It's been in works for more than a year. And once again the added adornment was added courtesy of the surrounding companies of the bridge. Not the tax payers, aka me. Many communities can't get get that kind of participation. And I appreciate it.