The Republic Is Saved.

[mintscraft56]

1 hour ago, JFW657 said:

Trump Kool Aid ^^^^.

Biden and his policies have had little effect on the economy.

Maybe if Biden had reacted to Russia's invasion of Ukraine the way we all know Trump would have - stood back and basically held the door open for them - Russian gas and oil would be flowing as before and our gas prices at the pump might be a buck a gallon lower, but the supply chain issues and the inflationary prices in the stores, are all directly attributable to the two year pandemic. 

 

Ok, now your just using situations that never happened to "prove" your point. We already saw Trump had an iron grip on North Korea, not forgetting what he said would happen if they were to invade anyone or attack anyone, same with the Taliban. 

We dont truly know how it would have played out under his rule, we dont know. You cant just say (i.e) "Oh he would have done this, that, and this." With no education on how he would actully react. 

Also, Bidens policies have had a huge impact on our economy. You cant just say it did not. His spending of our money, taxes, ect. His bills he had signed in. They all have a effect. I dont know how you continue to support him. That man should be in a care home, or at home watching golf, not in the seat for the President of the United States of America. 

Edited October 6, 2022 by mintscraft56

[JFW657]

4 minutes ago, mintscraft56 said:

Ok, now your just using situations that never happened to "prove" your point. We already saw Trump had an iron grip on North Korea, not forgetting what he said would happen if they were to invade anyone or attack anyone, same with the Taliban. 

Trump said a lot of things.

Most of which was half truths, exaggerations or blatant outright lies.

Anyone who still believes a word that ever came out of Trump's mouth is a willing dupe.

9 minutes ago, mintscraft56 said:

We dont truly know how it would have played out under his rule, we dont know. You cant just say (i.e) "Oh he would have done this, that, and this." With no education on how he would actully react. 

It was and is common knowledge that Trump wanted to pull the US out of NATO which Putin was licking his chops over. 

Trump as POTUS was Putin's lap dog. 

Don't believe me? Then maybe you'll believe Trump's own former National Security Advisor, John Bolton who is quoted in several articles not mention on the record in his own book...

Quote

 

Former national security adviser John Bolton said on Friday that he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin was “waiting” for a possible United States withdrawal from NATO, claiming former President Trump would have likely made such a move had he been reelected.

Bolton, during a Washington Post Live event, was asked about his memoir, in which he claimed that Trump wanted to leave the military alliance in 2018. The newspaper’s Opinions Editor-at-Large Michael Duffy asked him how close Trump was to withdrawing the United States from NATO.

“Yeah, I had my heart in my throat at that NATO meeting. I didn’t know what the president would do. He called me up to his seat seconds before he gave his speech. And I said, ‘Look, go right up to the line, but don’t go over it,’ ” Bolton replied.

“I sat back down, I had no idea what he’d do. I thought he’d put his foot over it, but at least he didn’t withdraw then,” he continued. “In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO, and I think Putin was waiting for that.”

"Bolton -- who served as President Donald Trump’s top national security aide from April 2018 until September 2019 and later wrote a highly critical book about that experience -- said if Trump were still in the White House, Russian forces “would be in Kyiv by now.”"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/596985-john-bolton-putin-was-waiting-for-possible-us-withdrawal-from-nato/

 

10 minutes ago, mintscraft56 said:

 Also, Bidens policies have had a huge impact on our economy. You cant just say it did not. His spending of our money, taxes, ect. His bills he had signed in. They all have a effect. I dont know how you continue to support him. That man should be in a care home, or at home watching golf, not in the seat for the President of the United States of America. 

Explain.

Give specifics.

Exactly WHICH Biden policies created inflation, rising fuel prices and the supply chain shortages, and HOW did they do so? 

Cause and effect.

I won't hold my breath waiting.

Besides, anyone who has the slightest iota of an understanding about how economies work (which is about the level of most people including myself), at least understands that government policies don't create economic outcomes overnight. Or even within weeks or months. Things like taxing and spending policies take years to manifest themselves in the economic conditions of countries, especially large, highly populated countries like the US.

That should just be a matter of common sense, but then again, common sense is not really a characteristic found in most Biden hating, BDS suffering Trump cult apologists and excuse makers. 

[jrs2]

1 hour ago, JFW657 said:

Trump said a lot of things.

Most of which was half truths, exaggerations or blatant outright lies.

Anyone who still believes a word that ever came out of Trump's mouth is a willing dupe.

It was and is common knowledge that Trump wanted to pull the US out of NATO which Putin was licking his chops over. 

Trump as POTUS was Putin's lap dog. 

Don't believe me? Then maybe you'll believe Trump's own former National Security Advisor, John Bolton who is quoted in several articles not mention on the record in his own book...

 

Explain.

Give specifics.

Exactly WHICH Biden policies created inflation, rising fuel prices and the supply chain shortages, and HOW did they do so? 

Cause and effect.

I won't hold my breath waiting.

Besides, anyone who has the slightest iota of an understanding about how economies work (which is about the level of most people including myself), at least understands that government policies don't create economic outcomes overnight. Or even within weeks or months. Things like taxing and spending policies take years to manifest themselves in the economic conditions of countries, especially large, highly populated countries like the US.

That should just be a matter of common sense, but then again, common sense is not really a characteristic found in most Biden hating, BDS suffering Trump cult apologists and excuse makers. 

I don't know how you do the grey squares thing when you reply to chunks of dialogue at a time so I'll do it piecemeal based on what I know:

1) You said Trump said a lot of things and that "most" were yah dee yah dah.  But then you say anyone who believes a single word out of his mouth is a willing dupe.  You just contradicted yourself.  Had you said everything he said was...an exaggeration or lie, then, yes.  But I guess Biden states the truth all the time.  I can vouch for one truth...MAGA is a threat to his Socialism.

2) NATO- you are duped by the Leftist media.  Trump was trying to get the other industrialized nations in NATO to pay their fair share.  He even stated so.  And you know that yet still repeat the queefs of Chris Cuomo.  All Democrats ever did for decades was to complain why the US was policing the world and our taxes were paying for it  And now, when Trump complains about it, you complain about his complaint about it.

3)  It is common knowledge that Trump wanted to fill his cabinet with "outsiders" but the Never Trumpers nipped that in the bud.  So I, personally, don't give a rip what John Bolton has to say about anything.  If you even paid attention you would know what I stated before, that Russia opted out of the Euro, the American Globalists, you know, the grand Socialist schemers, retaliated by painting Putin as a bad guy (which he is b/c he was KGB) and painting Trump as a bad guy, and affiliating them together so that an alliance would never occur.  Why do this?  Because both Trump and Putin did not want to be the lap dogs of the EU and cared more about the welfare of the own country.  Is that such a tough concept to understand?  Is it politically incorrect or controversial to say you have loyalty to your own country?  That's why socialism is a cancer; it is a weed.  You know why?  Because the Elite control the masses, kill the middle class, and rule by subjugation to keep order.  Either the government does it or they influence major corporations to do it, like Facebook, Twitter, Insurance, what have you.  That is disturbing.  While you sit there and complain about Trumps orange hair and his "lies", you enable a system of complete control over everything to tighten its grip.

4) Inflation.  I for one, already explained in a prior post how supply chain was affected by mask and vaccine mandates on truck drivers (in one example)

5) what's good for the goose is good for the gander-  with regard to the "taking years to manifest", then, likewise, you and the Left have no place to speak to ever complain when the White House goes from blue to red in blaming the GOP regarding economic issues.   But you do it anyways.  You can't have it both ways.

6) Trump cult- what exactly is the cultish principle at play here?  Is it wanting the US economy to be stronger?  Is it to protect the borders so that Texas doesn't turn into Greece and other border countries in the EU? Is it to create more jobs by bringing companies back to the US from places like China?  Is that so cultish?  Sure it is, to socialists.

[orange87]

Biden to pardon all federal offenses of simple marijuana possession in first major steps toward decriminalization

Article: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/marijuana-decriminalization-white-house-joe-biden/index.html

[spenser1058]

5 minutes ago, orange87 said:

Biden to pardon all federal offenses of simple marijuana possession in first major steps toward decriminalization

Article: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/marijuana-decriminalization-white-house-joe-biden/index.html

JOEMENTUM!

[jack]

If you think the last 2 trillion Biden has approved caused inflation and not the other 21 trillion the last three presidents have approved, it don't know what to tell ya. 

[jrs2]

28 minutes ago, jack said:

If you think the last 2 trillion Biden has approved caused inflation and not the other 21 trillion the last three presidents have approved, it don't know what to tell ya. 

which, circling back to my prior posts goes back to my points about who really runs the country.  Who has the power to print money?  And, who gives the President the five names to choose from?  and when you say "Biden approved" you make it sound like he is the final word on the subject, much like his predecessors...

[orange87]

This thread is turning into an Infowars/Breitbart comments section.

Edited October 6, 2022 by orange87

[jrs2]

22 minutes ago, orange87 said:

This thread is turning into an Infowars/Breitbart comments section.

Or...or...you could just have it be a Liberal Newsletter & Current Events thread and you'll never learn anything new other than the same "stuff" you get fed on a daily basis.

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, jrs2 said:

I don't know how you do the grey squares thing when you reply to chunks of dialogue at a time so I'll do it piecemeal based on what I know:

1) You said Trump said a lot of things and that "most" were yah dee yah dah.  But then you say anyone who believes a single word out of his mouth is a willing dupe.  You just contradicted yourself.  Had you said everything he said was...an exaggeration or lie, then, yes.  But I guess Biden states the truth all the time.  I can vouch for one truth...MAGA is a threat to his Socialism.

2) NATO- you are duped by the Leftist media.  Trump was trying to get the other industrialized nations in NATO to pay their fair share.  He even stated so.  And you know that yet still repeat the queefs of Chris Cuomo.  All Democrats ever did for decades was to complain why the US was policing the world and our taxes were paying for it  And now, when Trump complains about it, you complain about his complaint about it.

3)  It is common knowledge that Trump wanted to fill his cabinet with "outsiders" but the Never Trumpers nipped that in the bud.  So I, personally, don't give a rip what John Bolton has to say about anything.  If you even paid attention you would know what I stated before, that Russia opted out of the Euro, the American Globalists, you know, the grand Socialist schemers, retaliated by painting Putin as a bad guy (which he is b/c he was KGB) and painting Trump as a bad guy, and affiliating them together so that an alliance would never occur.  Why do this?  Because both Trump and Putin did not want to be the lap dogs of the EU and cared more about the welfare of the own country.  Is that such a tough concept to understand?  Is it politically incorrect or controversial to say you have loyalty to your own country?  That's why socialism is a cancer; it is a weed.  You know why?  Because the Elite control the masses, kill the middle class, and rule by subjugation to keep order.  Either the government does it or they influence major corporations to do it, like Facebook, Twitter, Insurance, what have you.  That is disturbing.  While you sit there and complain about Trumps orange hair and his "lies", you enable a system of complete control over everything to tighten its grip.

4) Inflation.  I for one, already explained in a prior post how supply chain was affected by mask and vaccine mandates on truck drivers (in one example)

5) what's good for the goose is good for the gander-  with regard to the "taking years to manifest", then, likewise, you and the Left have no place to speak to ever complain when the White House goes from blue to red in blaming the GOP regarding economic issues.   But you do it anyways.  You can't have it both ways.

6) Trump cult- what exactly is the cultish principle at play here?  Is it wanting the US economy to be stronger?  Is it to protect the borders so that Texas doesn't turn into Greece and other border countries in the EU? Is it to create more jobs by bringing companies back to the US from places like China?  Is that so cultish?  Sure it is, to socialists.

1) First of all, you're just nit-picking and splitting hairs to begin with.

Second of all, if I say most of what Trump said was lies then I say anyone who believes a word he says is a dupe, there is no contradiction. If 99.9999% of what Trump said was lies and .0001% was true, you'd still be a dupe for believing anything he said without solid proof, even if that one time in his entire life he did utter the truth. Anyone who believes someone who has demonstrated over and over ad nauseum that he is highly prone to lying, is a dupe. Period.

2) Baloney. Yes, Trump made a big production out of saying publicly he wanted other NATO countries to pay more, and I believe at least some of them agreed to do so. But it does not automatically follow that Trump was not just grandstanding in order to create a convenient pretext for pulling the US out. But of course, you're going to swallow the Trump Kool Aid no matter how full of BS it is.

3) Given the choice between believing John Bolton, an actual legitimate SOURCE I cited, and who was Trump's own National Security Advisor and a former UN Ambassador, vs some dude on a forum who babbles right-wing nutjob talking points he laps up from every discredited internet conspiracy theory propagandist in existence, I'll believe a guy like Bolton who has moved and operated at the highest levels of the US government and international diplomacy.

The rest of your screed is just to incoherent to decipher and respond to.

4) If not for right-wing Trumper propaganda, the truckers would have just gotten the damned vaccine, slapped on a mask, got off their butts and DONE THEIR JOBS!!!! Besides, it was a lot more complicated than that. Because businesses had to close, demand for manufactured goods and food products was down. It created a ripple effect throughout the entire economy. It wasn't just because some misguided moron truck drivers put their loyalty to Trump above the good of America and refused to do what was needed of them.

5) I haven't done that. Nobody I know on the left does that either. Unless you can show me some proof, afaic you're just sidestepping the issue by making baseless, phony-baloney claims because you have no actual legitimate response.

6) What is cultish surrounding Trumpers?

Their willingness to blindly and mindlessly worship Trump like the second coming of Christ and treat his constant stream of lies as the Gospel. 

What does Trump cultism look like?

Here....

Your people. 

[mintscraft56]

6 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Trump said a lot of things.

Most of which was half truths, exaggerations or blatant outright lies.

Anyone who still believes a word that ever came out of Trump's mouth is a willing dupe.

It was and is common knowledge that Trump wanted to pull the US out of NATO which Putin was licking his chops over. 

Trump as POTUS was Putin's lap dog. 

Don't believe me? Then maybe you'll believe Trump's own former National Security Advisor, John Bolton who is quoted in several articles not mention on the record in his own book...

 

Explain.

Give specifics.

Exactly WHICH Biden policies created inflation, rising fuel prices and the supply chain shortages, and HOW did they do so? 

Cause and effect.

I won't hold my breath waiting.

Besides, anyone who has the slightest iota of an understanding about how economies work (which is about the level of most people including myself), at least understands that government policies don't create economic outcomes overnight. Or even within weeks or months. Things like taxing and spending policies take years to manifest themselves in the economic conditions of countries, especially large, highly populated countries like the US.

That should just be a matter of common sense, but then again, common sense is not really a characteristic found in most Biden hating, BDS suffering Trump cult apologists and excuse makers. 

I have come back with already the info needed, but I think jrs2 all ready destroyed your argument with what he said. Thank you to jrs2 and to you, JFW657, your willingness to continue the argument is admirable, but  you should really read what we are saying to maybe get a grip on how far lost to the left you really are. 

[mintscraft56]

2 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Here....

Ok, 1 those are called fans of a good president. 

Maybe your just not used to them because  Biden gets none. 

2, If thats nuts for you, then here is a picture of Obama, where secret service has to peel a lady off him because she loved him so much as president. 

Maybe you need to take a look at the world around you and notice that good presidents usually get alot of fans for a reason. 

Edited October 7, 2022 by mintscraft56

[jrs2]

28 minutes ago, JFW657 said:

1) First of all, you're just nit-picking and splitting hairs to begin with.

Second of all, if I say most of what Trump said was lies then I say anyone who believes a word he says is a dupe, there is no contradiction. If 99.9999% of what Trump said was lies and .0001% was true, you'd still be a dupe for believing anything he said without solid proof, even if that one time in his entire life he did utter the truth. Anyone who believes someone who has demonstrated over and over ad nauseum that he is highly prone to lying, is a dupe. Period.

2) Baloney. Yes, Trump made a big production out of saying publicly he wanted other NATO countries to pay more, and I believe at least some of them agreed to do so. But it does not automatically follow that Trump was not just grandstanding in order to create a convenient pretext for pulling the US out. But of course, you're going to swallow the Trump Kool Aid no matter how full of BS it is.

3) Given the choice between believing John Bolton, an actual legitimate SOURCE I cited, and who was Trump's own National Security Advisor and a former UN Ambassador, vs some dude on a forum who babbles right-wing nutjob talking points he laps up from every discredited internet conspiracy theory propagandist in existence, I'll believe a guy like Bolton who has moved and operated at the highest levels of the US government and international diplomacy.

The rest of your screed is just to incoherent to decipher and respond to.

4) If not for right-wing Trumper propaganda, the truckers would have just gotten the damned vaccine, slapped on a mask, got off their butts and DONE THEIR JOBS!!!! Besides, it was a lot more complicated than that. Because businesses had to close, demand for manufactured goods and food products was down. It created a ripple effect throughout the entire economy. It wasn't just because some misguided moron truck drivers put their loyalty to Trump above the good of America and refused to do what was needed of them.

5) I haven't done that. Nobody I know on the left does that either. Unless you can show me some proof, afaic you're just sidestepping the issue by making baseless, phony-baloney claims because you have no actual legitimate response.

6) What is cultish surrounding Trumpers?

Their willingness to blindly and mindlessly worship Trump like the second coming of Christ and treat his constant stream of lies as the Gospel. 

What does Trump cultism look like?

Here....

Your people. 

this is what you do, above, and when somebody questions it, you attack their sources because that's all you can do; attack the source to attack the point of view or the fact.  Attack Trump to attempt to delegitimize his philosophies which are actually sound.

I thought you were an Alpha.  Nah, you are a Gamma. Only a Gamma would get duped by Leftism.  Why is that? Because the government is your Alpha. You can't think for yourself; you need them to do your thinking for you.  That's why you lash out when you encounter someone who is thinking and analyzing; because it's an alien concept to you.  

I have a world history of legitimacy behind my opinions and viewpoints, whereas, you only have a history of Leftism to rely on which is a failed philosophy based on brainwashing people, subjugating them, and intimidating others just to have a constituency.  And it literally was responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in war, and millions of deaths in executions over the last hundred years.  How can you even justify that?  You can't. 

Your BS about NATO is just the latest laughable example that completely delegitimizes anything else you have to say.  Because nobody in their right mind would ever believe such BS; not even a Democrat.

Trump isn't the liar; you are.  All the stuff that the public at large knows to be a fact, including the public at large overseas, you deny exists, just so that you can "win" your "argument" or make yourself feel better.

Dealing with a Leftist is like dealing with cattle.  You open up the gate and all they do is moo the same old mooing.  And they don't walk through the gate, they just continue to chew their cud.

Yeah, you know, regardless of all this stuff, I still just can't get that Mexican Mafia out of my mind...you know...the one that opened fire on BLM in Chicago...I don't think there's been a BLM riot there since (or anywhere else for that matter).  

[mintscraft56]

@jrs2In your logic this would be "worshipping" Obama. 

Look how the crowd litterly climbs over one another just to get a touch of him, like he would heal them had their skin made contact. 

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by mintscraft56

[jrs2]

17 minutes ago, mintscraft56 said:

I have come back with already the info needed, but I think jrs2 all ready destroyed your argument with what he said. Thank you to jrs2 and to you, JFW657, your willingness to continue the argument is admirable, but  you should really read what we are saying to maybe get a grip on how far lost to the left you really are. 

this forum has been so Left for so long, they thought they were centrists because most all of them think alike.  you really cannot argue with a Leftist.  They have no citable justification for how they think.  Their only recourse is to attack the right to justify their existence.  That is all JFW has done...attack Trump...instead of presenting tangible logical justifications for Leftism.  Why, because he can't.  Because none exist.

@JFW657How dare you even utter anything towards a Trump supporter when this psychological BS exists.  It's the sickest most pathetic thing I've ever witnessed in my life

 

 

[jrs2]

@JFW657And what about this BS.  Tell me, how many times did you march around Lake Eola when Trump was sworn in?

 

[jrs2]

Wow.  and this was in CA. 

what is so pathetic with the Left is that when a cop shoots a Black guy who is charging at him, and it is witness by Black witnesses who testify to it, the Left still protests in the form of BLM riots, and all the constituents turn a blind eye to the facts of the incident.  Yeah, you are all being called out for your hypocritical contrived BS.

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:

I have come back with already the info needed, but I think jrs2 all ready destroyed your argument with what he said. Thank you to jrs2 and to you, JFW657, your willingness to continue the argument is admirable, but  you should really read what we are saying to maybe get a grip on how far lost to the left you really are. 

  The only thing jrs2 "destroyed with what he said" was his image on this forum as a sane, rational adult.

I'd say the same about you, but you don't have such an image. 

2 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:

Ok, 1 those are called fans of a good president. 

Maybe your just not used to them because  Biden gets none. 

2, If thats nuts for you, then here is a picture of Obama, where secret service has to peel a lady off him because she loved him so much as president. 

Maybe you need to take a look at the world around you and notice that good presidents usually get alot of fans for a reason. 

Total false equivalence ^^^^

Look at the face of the wacko lady in the pic I posted, holding up her baby for Trump to bless with his holiness.

She's completely out of her skull over her master The Great El Trumpo. 

The picture you posted of Obama is just a picture of him in the midst of a crowd of admirers.

There's no Thank You Lord Jesus for President Obama signs either. 

That Trump crowd is downright scary looking.

Apples and oranges.

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, jrs2 said:

this is what you do, above, and when somebody questions it, you attack their sources because that's all you can do; attack the source to attack the point of view or the fact.  Attack Trump to attempt to delegitimize his philosophies which are actually sound.

I thought you were an Alpha.  Nah, you are a Gamma. Only a Gamma would get duped by Leftism.  Why is that? Because the government is your Alpha. You can't think for yourself; you need them to do your thinking for you.  That's why you lash out when you encounter someone who is thinking and analyzing; because it's an alien concept to you.  

I have a world history of legitimacy behind my opinions and viewpoints, whereas, you only have a history of Leftism to rely on which is a failed philosophy based on brainwashing people, subjugating them, and intimidating others just to have a constituency.  And it literally was responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in war, and millions of deaths in executions over the last hundred years.  How can you even justify that?  You can't. 

Your BS about NATO is just the latest laughable example that completely delegitimizes anything else you have to say.  Because nobody in their right mind would ever believe such BS; not even a Democrat.

Trump isn't the liar; you are.  All the stuff that the public at large knows to be a fact, including the public at large overseas, you deny exists, just so that you can "win" your "argument" or make yourself feel better.

Dealing with a Leftist is like dealing with cattle.  You open up the gate and all they do is moo the same old mooing.  And they don't walk through the gate, they just continue to chew their cud.

Yeah, you know, regardless of all this stuff, I still just can't get that Mexican Mafia out of my mind...you know...the one that opened fire on BLM in Chicago...I don't think there's been a BLM riot there since (or anywhere else for that matter).  

Funny you cry that I impugn your sources when the fact is that YOU NEVER POST SOURCES.

All you post is drivel and propaganda you get your brain washed by on InfoWars and Breitbart.

As far as what kind of male I am, I find it rather creepy that it's something you even think about. Seriously. Yuk. 

And this "world history of legitimacy" thing that's lurking and skulking behind your viewpoints, that's nothing more than an excuse for the fact that you never provide legitimate, reliable sources to back them up. Right? So I guess I'm just supposed to take your flimsy word for this "world history of legitimacy" rather than you provide a link to some credible journalist's article quoting some world class statesman expressing actual knowledge based expertise on whatever topic you happen to be incoherently raving about at any given time.

No thanks. I'll pass. 

What I posted about NATO came straight from Trump's own National Security Advisor and a former UN Ambassador, not some "world history of legitimacy" nonsense that means God knows what.  If that doesn't measure up to the high standards of your "world history of legitimacy" well, I'm just as sorry as I can be, sonny. I'll still take it over your slick talking baloney.

Trump is universally known to be the biggest liar who's ever occupied the WH. THAT is what the public at large knows to be a fact. The only ones who deny it and claim Trump is not a liar, are brainwashed goobers who wouldn't recognize the truth if someone stapled it to the end of a 2x4 and hit them across the forehead with it.

As for the rest, you just described every weak, half-baked, laughable argument you've tried and failed to make here.

In closing, I gotta tell ya, I passed bored with this nonsense awhile back. You've had what passes for your "say" and I've had mine. You know where I stand and I know where you.... "stand".  Please address all further and future statements, opinions, pontifications, prevarications, obfuscations and Trump directed genuflections toward someone else, as I have deemed you (and your newfound little buddy) not worthy of my time and effort on this particular subject matter.

Thank you for your cooperation.    

[jack]

17 hours ago, jrs2 said:

which, circling back to my prior posts goes back to my points about who really runs the country.  Who has the power to print money?  And, who gives the President the five names to choose from?  and when you say "Biden approved" you make it sound like he is the final word on the subject, much like his predecessors...

Approved as in signed the congressional approved budget. That is solely the responsibility of the president. Of course he could have pulled a Grover Cleveland and vetoed it but he did not so he partially owns it. 

The Fed prints money but congress has the authority approve deficit spending. They are the primary responsible party. 

[jrs2]

12 hours ago, JFW657 said:

  The only thing jrs2 "destroyed with what he said" was his image on this forum as a sane, rational adult.

I'd say the same about you, but you don't have such an image. 

Total false equivalence ^^^^

Look at the face of the wacko lady in the pic I posted, holding up her baby for Trump to bless with his holiness.

She's completely out of her skull over her master The Great El Trumpo. 

The picture you posted of Obama is just a picture of him in the midst of a crowd of admirers.

There's no Thank You Lord Jesus for President Obama signs either. 

That Trump crowd is downright scary looking.

Apples and oranges.

that's pretty funny.  

Nobody can be viewed as a "sane rational adult" in a forum that is Leftist, where people are called wackadoodle, kooks, etc., by the other side.

Ok fine. Yes, that lady looks deranged in that photo.  But anyone will look deranged when a photographer takes speed shots of an event and chooses the frame that makes the person in motion look the craziest.  As if?

[jrs2]

2 hours ago, jack said:

Approved as in signed the congressional approved budget. That is solely the responsibility of the president. Of course he could have pulled a Grover Cleveland and vetoed it but he did not so he partially owns it. 

The Fed prints money but congress has the authority approve deficit spending. They are the primary responsible party. 

what does that even mean?  Social Studies? You're quoting procedural policies in a vacuum.  Congress has no power on these matters.  They have procedural responsibilities only.  Do you really think they would buck the Fed?  Seriously?  The Fed has the power with the IR5 as its muscle, and that's how its been since, what, 1913.

[jrs2]

12 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Funny you cry that I impugn your sources when the fact is that YOU NEVER POST SOURCES.

All you post is drivel and propaganda you get your brain washed by on InfoWars and Breitbart.

As far as what kind of male I am, I find it rather creepy that it's something you even think about. Seriously. Yuk. 

And this "world history of legitimacy" thing that's lurking and skulking behind your viewpoints, that's nothing more than an excuse for the fact that you never provide legitimate, reliable sources to back them up. Right? So I guess I'm just supposed to take your flimsy word for this "world history of legitimacy" rather than you provide a link to some credible journalist's article quoting some world class statesman expressing actual knowledge based expertise on whatever topic you happen to be incoherently raving about at any given time.

No thanks. I'll pass. 

What I posted about NATO came straight from Trump's own National Security Advisor and a former UN Ambassador, not some "world history of legitimacy" nonsense that means God knows what.  If that doesn't measure up to the high standards of your "world history of legitimacy" well, I'm just as sorry as I can be, sonny. I'll still take it over your slick talking baloney.

Trump is universally known to be the biggest liar who's ever occupied the WH. THAT is what the public at large knows to be a fact. The only ones who deny it and claim Trump is not a liar, are brainwashed goobers who wouldn't recognize the truth if someone stapled it to the end of a 2x4 and hit them across the forehead with it.

As for the rest, you just described every weak, half-baked, laughable argument you've tried and failed to make here.

In closing, I gotta tell ya, I passed bored with this nonsense awhile back. You've had what passes for your "say" and I've had mine. You know where I stand and I know where you.... "stand".  Please address all further and future statements, opinions, pontifications, prevarications, obfuscations and Trump directed genuflections toward someone else, as I have deemed you (and your newfound little buddy) not worthy of my time and effort on this particular subject matter.

Thank you for your cooperation.    

Consider it done.  But be truthful about it for everyone to see.

You complain about citing to sources that are legitimate, but legitimate in who's eyes, yours?  To you, if you aren't a Leftist, you cannot cite to any legitimate source.

You want to bow out, why?  Because Spenser, who starts all this stuff bowed out days ago and you encountered a new poster that challenged you and you have no legit retort to him?  That's how the Left operates...you talk talk talk, but when you poke the bear and wake it up, you tuck and run.

Just like BLM in Chicago when they went up against the Mexican mafia...

All good.  Cheers! And good health!  I don't hold anything against you.  I actually enjoy your posts even though half the time you outright insult me.  It's all good.

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TO THE FORUM AT LARGE:

Seriously, in general, some of the stuff I've read on this thread and the other one is downright a bunch of overtly biased BS, coined and agreed upon like it's objective truth versus a simple hack job by the Left.  And it goes on and on.

The Republic is Saved?  Last I checked, a Republic is a loose association of states with the power to the people.  How do the people have any power in a Leftist system of governance?   The title of this thread is laughable.

I've been accused of drinking Trump's Kool-Aid, but seriously, any Kool-Aid drinking has been done by the Left.

You cannot attack conservatives with logic.  That's why all I get are snickers and name calling.  Just like the media.  You cannot attack a sound political philosophy so instead you attack the figurehead in an attempt to delegitimize the philosophy.  That's Leftism 101.

I posted this for all to see in case they convinced themselves they were objective thinkers.  Maybe some of you will wake up.

Actually...don't wake up.  I will from this point forward make posts, as I have every right to do, like all the Leftists,  for all casual readers of UP to see, so that they don't start getting duped by all this Leftist BS.  Because enough is enough.

And I wouldn't be surprised at the numbers of new posters that have not joined b/c they are mortified and the Leftist hack job environment here, which ultimately affects membership, and when that happens, it affects advertising.

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