Unified Development Ordinance

[kermit]

Lets be clear. If the council moves to restrict triplexes, they are showing us that they don’t give a crap about housing affordability. I sure would like them to explain where they expect the in demand housing they are outlawing to go.

Spare me the ‘but triplexes disrupt the neighborhood’ pearl clutching. I live in a neighborhood with many mid-block quadplexes, they are fine and have done nothing to harm property values.

Edited March 26 by kermit

[InSouthPark]

Insert shocked face that Bokhari is the squeaky wheel in the news.  People in Barclay Downs are worried about $1m triplex condo's going in? Worried about what...their property values going up because they tore down a dumpy house and built some million dollar condos?  Barclay Neighborhood association opposes everything for the sake of it. They didn't want the apartment building there built because it would throw shade on their tennis court for 3 minutes a day in the fall when the sun is low. 

 

 

[kayman]

Mayor Vi Liles [email protected]  

At Large Dimple Ajmera [email protected]  

At Large LaWana Mayfield [email protected]  

At Large James Mitchell [email protected]  

At Large Victoria Watlington [email protected]  

District 1 Dante Anderson [email protected] One Click - District 1

District 2 Malcolm Graham [email protected] One Click - District 2

District 3 Tiawana Brown [email protected] One Click - District 3

District 4 Reneé Perkins Johnson [email protected] One Click - District 4

District 5 Marjorie Molina [email protected] One Click - District 5

District 6 Tariq Bokhari [email protected] One Click - District 6

District 7 Ed Driggs ed.driggs@charlottenc

 

Resume emailing them all telling them that you're watching them & should uphold the UDO full adoption 

[davidclt]

27 minutes ago, kayman said:

Mayor Vi Liles [email protected]  

At Large Dimple Ajmera [email protected]  

At Large LaWana Mayfield [email protected]  

At Large James Mitchell [email protected]  

At Large Victoria Watlington [email protected]  

District 1 Dante Anderson [email protected] One Click - District 1

District 2 Malcolm Graham [email protected] One Click - District 2

District 3 Tiawana Brown [email protected] One Click - District 3

District 4 Reneé Perkins Johnson [email protected] One Click - District 4

District 5 Marjorie Molina [email protected] One Click - District 5

District 6 Tariq Bokhari [email protected] One Click - District 6

District 7 Ed Driggs ed.driggs@charlottenc

 

Resume emailing them all telling them that you're watching them & should uphold the UDO full adoption 

With links

Mayor                Vi Liles                                         [email protected]

At Large            Dimple Ajmera                       [email protected]
At Large            LaWana Mayfield                  [email protected]
At Large            James Mitchell                       [email protected]
At Large            Victoria Watlington            [email protected]

District 1           Dante Anderson                  [email protected]           One Click - District 1
District 2           Malcolm Graham                 [email protected]      One Click - District 2
District 3           Tiawana Brown                     [email protected]             One Click - District 3
District 4           Reneé Perkins Johnson    [email protected]               One Click - District 4
District 5           Marjorie Molina                    [email protected]           One Click - District 5
District 6           Tariq Bokhari                          [email protected]                 One Click - District 6
District 7           Ed Driggs                                   [email protected]                          One Click - District 7

[RANYC]

Nah, I’m fine with triplex corners.  Plus, it appears they’re planning to allow townhomes in N-1 districts.  I’ll take townhomes up and down N-1, including A through D, over triplexes any day.  Townhomes currently not allowed in N-1.  Planning added them to N-1 E & F, and Victoria shared she’d be open to townhomes in all N-1 zones which would be a meaningful increase in density allowances.

Edited March 26 by RANYC

[Nathan2]

21 hours ago, RANYC said:

Nah, I’m fine with triplex corners.  Plus, it appears they’re planning to allow townhomes in N-1 districts.  I’ll take townhomes up and down N-1, including A through D, over triplexes any day.  Townhomes currently not allowed in N-1.  Planning added them to N-1 E & F, and Victoria shared she’d be open to townhomes in all N-1 zones which would be a meaningful increase in density allowances.

That's even more moronic. Why cherry-pick housing types? There's no rhyme or reason to it, just allow more middle missing. Allow what the market will bear. The questions we should be asking are why are we so afraid of specific housing types and why is our government leaders bending to the suburban scare tactics where none of these housing types are allowed anyway because of HOAs? 

[davidclt]

On 3/26/2024 at 11:27 AM, davidclt said:

With links

Mayor                Vi Liles                                         [email protected]

At Large            Dimple Ajmera                       [email protected]
At Large            LaWana Mayfield                  [email protected]
At Large            James Mitchell                       [email protected]
At Large            Victoria Watlington            [email protected]

District 1           Dante Anderson                  [email protected]           One Click - District 1
District 2           Malcolm Graham                 [email protected]      One Click - District 2
District 3           Tiawana Brown                     [email protected]             One Click - District 3
District 4           Reneé Perkins Johnson    [email protected]               One Click - District 4
District 5           Marjorie Molina                    [email protected]           One Click - District 5
District 6           Tariq Bokhari                          [email protected]                 One Click - District 6
District 7           Ed Driggs                                   [email protected]                          One Click - District 7

Once again Dimple and Vi . . . for the win with anodyne responses but responses nonetheless.

[InSouthPark]

19 minutes ago, Nathan2 said:

That's even more moronic. Why cherry-pick housing types? There's no rhyme or reason to it, just allow more middle missing. Allow what the market will bear. The questions we should be asking are why are we so afraid of specific housing types and why is our government leaders bending to the suburban scare tactics where none of these housing types are allowed anyway because of HOAs? 

Because the loudest member of city council tells his rich neighbors this is bad and poor people are coming to their neighborhood. You know he knows this isn't true, but as the lone "R" on city council, he makes it his job to oppose everything. 

Bokhari literally lives next door to a duplex lol.  

[RANYC]

2 hours ago, Nathan2 said:

That's even more moronic. Why cherry-pick housing types? There's no rhyme or reason to it, just allow more middle missing. Allow what the market will bear. The questions we should be asking are why are we so afraid of specific housing types and why is our government leaders bending to the suburban scare tactics where none of these housing types are allowed anyway because of HOAs? 

Can’t there be a discussion of differences on this without resorting to using terms like “moronic.”  So uncalled for and honestly, the more I hear and read this vitriol thrown out by certain members of the twitterati and on here, the more disinclined I am to care and engage at all.  The objective is more density.  Right now, no townhomes are allowed in N1 and after the adjustment there would be.  Given nationwide there’s tons more demand and financing product to create townhomes than there is triplexes, we’d potentially see more housing in more places with the townhome change.

Also Alyson Craig did make a statement in the council meeting that triplexes in a car centric place like Charlotte where unit occupiers each have one or two cars tends to create even more car sitings with triplexes.  At the corner with two street frontages, the triplex could have 2 different access points to potentially rear garages thus minimizing the parked car impact on the block and reducing driveway frequency.

Im not opposed to triplexes, but given the overall goal is more density, allowing townhomes in N1 potentially gets us to the objective faster than the current regs.  By the way, SFO elimination is still in place because duplexes still allowed everywhere. 

Edited March 27 by RANYC

[RANYC]

1 hour ago, InSouthPark said:

Because the loudest member of city council tells his rich neighbors this is bad and poor people are coming to their neighborhood. You know he knows this isn't true, but as the lone "R" on city council, he makes it his job to oppose everything. 

Bokhari literally lives next door to a duplex lol.  

Ed Driggs is also R. 

[Nathan2]

1 hour ago, RANYC said:

 

Also Alyson Craig did make a statement in the council meeting that triplexes in a car centric place like Charlotte where unit occupiers each have one or two cars tends to create even more car sitings with triplexes.  At the corner with two street frontages, the triplex could have 2 different access points to potentially rear garages thus minimizing the parked car impact on the block and reducing driveway frequency.

Im not opposed to triplexes, but given the overall goal is more density, allowing townhomes in N1 potentially gets us to the objective faster than the current regs.  By the way, SFO elimination is still in place because duplexes still allowed everywhere. 

Then the city should start looking at how we can allow and incentivize all building types closer to uptown and maybe limiting building types farther out towards the exurbs. This would be a political win for all parties by giving density in areas that have the infrastructure and grid and limiting it in areas where politics is risking the UDO for everyone. 

[Southendyeti]

How is the UDO differentiating between townhouses and duplexes/triplexes? Aren’t townhouses just a bunch of duplexes/triplexes stuck together?

[CLT Development]

2 hours ago, Southendyeti said:

How is the UDO differentiating between townhouses and duplexes/triplexes? Aren’t townhouses just a bunch of duplexes/triplexes stuck together?

This is something I scream into the void often.