I-485 Development (Prosperity Village, Riverbend, Crosswind, etc)

[KJHburg]

Back in town from Savannah HHI here is the new addition to Atrium Pineville and look at the Ballantyne skyline! side window shot of Atrium! 

 

[KJHburg]

Atrium Pineville expansion from 485 today.  Pineville rising. 

[KJHburg]

here is the sign for the latest Amazon warehouse off Sam Wilson near 485 and 85 interchange.  It says CLT9 which is interesting as I only count 7 Amazon facilities in the area 3 in Cabarrus and 4 in Mecklenburg unless there are 2 more I don't know about.  They usually name their centers like this as they have multiple locations in one metro.  I know they have an office in the Railyard but don't think they name their offices that way. 

photo from yesterday. 

[KJHburg]

On 10/31/2020 at 6:01 PM, KJHburg said:

Atrium Pineville expansion from 485 today.  Pineville rising. 

here is the follow up 8 story bed tower now topped out.  see my photos above. 

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2020/11/17/atrium-health-pineville-bed-tower-opening-2021.html

[KJHburg]

Novant plans Steele Creek area hospital near Charlotte Premium Outlets in addition to their new Ballantyne hospital on US 521 south of the country club.  Pending state approval for the Steele Creek location. 

Novant Health seeks to open hospital in Steele Creek - Charlotte Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

[t_money]

Interesting that Novant is relocating beds away from city center while Atrium is looking to add ^alot more.

Edited November 25, 2020 by t_money

[KJHburg]

actually Atrium just proposed today to move 18 beds recently approved for main hospital to a new proposed Cornelius hospital.  You have to put beds near where people live and that is why all the suburban hospitals have grown greatly and new ones on the way like the Atrium Union West and the Novant Ballantyne hospitals.  We have a growing population all over intown and in the suburbs but you have to spread the hospital beds around somewhat.  

Atrium Health makes another attempt for new Lake Norman-area hospital - Charlotte Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

[Boricua]

12 hours ago, KJHburg said:

actually Atrium just proposed today to move 18 beds recently approved for main hospital to a new proposed Cornelius hospital.  You have to put beds near where people live and that is why all the suburban hospitals have grown greatly and new ones on the way like the Atrium Union West and the Novant Ballantyne hospitals.  We have a growing population all over intown and in the suburbs but you have to spread the hospital beds around somewhat.  

Atrium Health makes another attempt for new Lake Norman-area hospital - Charlotte Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

Isn't outdated that Atrium and Novant have to seek state approval to build hospitals and add beds? Why all the rigamarol to add very needed services?

[KJHburg]

5 hours ago, Boricua said:

Isn't outdated that Atrium and Novant have to seek state approval to build hospitals and add beds? Why all the rigamarol to add very needed services?

State law called a certificate of need so there are not too many hospital beds built then there is an oversupply.  some states like NC do this others do not. 

 

[tozmervo]

The "certificate of need" process is insane and, as far as I can tell, is only in place to protect existing institutions. I have seen zero data to show that it in any way is beneficial to consumers. 

[KJHburg]

Around 485 today west and southwest into Pineville and Ballantyne areas. 

First development continues around Charlotte Premium Outlets and Berewick which the River District will be just north of.   New apartments and new hotel just opened the Courtyard by Marriott which had a good number of cars in the lot.   Photos 1-4

Atrium Pineville hospital from I-485 and remember when someone said Charlotte does not have a lot high rises around the freeways (except 77 uptown and from 85 at the 77/85 interchange)   There is a view of cluster of towers in Ballantyne now as  you come around the bend heading towards Matthews.  

[J-Rob]

I just moved to Harrisburg from the Elizabeth area, and came across this Farmington mixed use development under construction.  I don't think I have seen this discussed elsewhere, but as a new resident to the area, I am very excited. The development seems somewhat akin to what they have done with Waverly on the southside of 485, which is very welcome, because this area near I-485 is otherwise under-developed. 

 

https://www.farmingtonrockyriver.com/

 

Edited June 11, 2021 by J-Rob

[rancenc]

@J-Rob, welcome to Harrisburg.  I have been here now for about 16 years and love it.   The Farmington development has had several posts in the RING CITIES and the CABARRUS/ROWAN forums over the last year or so.  

[704Dimitri]

On 6/11/2021 at 4:48 PM, J-Rob said:

I just moved to Harrisburg from the Elizabeth area, and came across this Farmington mixed use development under construction.  I don't think I have seen this discussed elsewhere, but as a new resident to the area, I am very excited. The development seems somewhat akin to what they have done with Waverly on the southside of 485, which is very welcome, because this area near I-485 is otherwise under-developed. 

 

https://www.farmingtonrockyriver.com/

 

Welcome to Harrisburg!!! Lived here my entire life basically!! It’s sad, but this rendering is old of Farmington, the theater part of Farmington is gone. But the rest of it for the most part stays true to the original rendering!

[KJHburg]

Major mixed use project  Farmington  getting ready to go vertical at I-485 and Rocky River Road straddling the Cabarrus Mecklenburg county line.  These new apartments are in Meck.

Woodfield Bringing Luxury Apartments to Farmington - MPV Properties (mpvre.com)

[J-Rob]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Major mixed use project  Farmington  getting ready to go vertical at I-485 and Rocky River Road straddling the Cabarrus Mecklenburg county line.  These new apartments are in Meck.

Woodfield Bringing Luxury Apartments to Farmington - MPV Properties (mpvre.com)

I have high hopes for this project!  Fun fact: after moving to Harrisburg I realized the closest Brueggers or Einsteins is over 20 miles, and there aren't many other bagel options any closer.  Even though I am sure it was ignorant and arrogant on my part, I emailed MPV begging them to find a bagel tenant (and requesting a few other tenants too).  

 

Regardless, I am extremely excited about this.  It will fill a void in the area, and will be the largest mixed use development between Concord and Matthews.

[KJHburg]

Ballantyne has a skyline now coming around the bend from Pineville.  Here also is Atrium Pineville.

Saw a crane up at the Novant Ballantyne Hospital site but could not get a photo.

 

[KJHburg]

Since Amazon warehouses are mostly around the 485 beltway or beyond this is interesting development.  Basically Amazon which developers have leased millions of square feet of warehouse space to (including a couple million sq ft in the Charlotte metro) now says they want to own their warehouses.  This approach is somewhat unusual but it sounds like now they buy land and build the warehouses.  This story mentions such an arrangement in Bessemer (City) in Gaston county which I was not even aware of.

Amazon Ramping Up Industrial Acquisitions In Pivot Away From Leasing, Sources Say (bisnow.com)

Amazon recent leases include 1 M sq ft in Pineville,  2 locations in north Charlotte.  They have 4 warehouses near the airport, 3 in Cabarrus County, a new lease off Billy Graham.  

[KJHburg]

More hospitals around the I-485 loop. Including Novant and Atrium in the Steele Creek area, the new Novant Ballantyne and new Atrium Union West in Stallings.

""Novant broke ground on Ballantyne Medical Center, at 10725 Providence Road West in south Charlotte, earlier this year. The estimated total project cost is $180 million. Plans called for a 168,000-square-foot, 36-bed hospital, plus a medical office building on the site. The hospital is scheduled to open in 2023. It did not require additional beds — Novant is relocating them from Presbyterian Medical.  Also in progress is Novant's Steele Creek Medical Center, a 186,000-square-foot, 32-bed hospital at Interstate 485 and Steele Creek Road. The proposed $178.6 million project is slated to open in 2025. Regulators approved the project this spring.  Atrium is also planning for a facility at Steele Creek. That $53.77 million hospital was approved in late September. Atrium plans to move 26 beds from AH Pineville to its existing Steele Creek campus, which has a standalone emergency department and imaging services. It would open in 2024. Next year, Atrium will open Union West, a 40-bed, 150,000-square-foot hospital at U.S. Highway 74 and Stallings Road in Stallings. The project topped out in late 2020.""

not mentioned is the new Atrium Cornelius Hospital   Hospitals need to be close to where the peoples live. 

Atrium, Novant compete to add hospital beds in Mecklenburg County - Charlotte Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

[rancenc]

New apartment complex coming to Harrisburg Road and I-485.

https://www.multihousingnews.com/post/hhhunt-breaks-ground-on-2-north-carolina-communities/

[t_money]

On 3/22/2019 at 10:15 PM, KJHburg said:

Huge Childress Klein mixed used development mainly warehouse and industrial but retail and hotel and apartments as well off W Arrowood across from Top Golf.  And from the article they say they might have a major tenant wanting to be near the airport.

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2019/03/22/childress-klein-proposes-mixed-use-development-on.html?ana=e_ae_set1&s=article_du&ed=2019-03-22&u=oAaDx%2B74FoP4qOJ%2By4AU6dhJPpc&t=1553307082&j=87397971

Drove by this the other day. Couldn't get any pictures but the site is basically totally clear now. A bit depressing actually as not a single tree remains and it is a HUGE field of dirt at this point.

[videtur quam contuor]

For those considering end of year tax issues and general good feels I plan to donate to Trees Charlotte.

[Windsurfer]

1 minute ago, tarhoosier said:

For those considering end of year tax issues and general good feels I plan to donate to Trees Charlotte.

Mine of choice is Dogwood Alliance out of Asheville. Been fighting the good fight for decades. Lately, they're on to the biomass scam.

15 minutes ago, t_money said:

Drove by this the other day. Couldn't get any pictures but the site is basically totally clear now. A bit depressing actually as not a single tree remains and it is a HUGE field of dirt at this point.

Sprawl at all cost.  Is anyone on this board really surprised?  

[KJHburg]

the problem with this huge clear cut is the need for huge warehouses.  Don't buy from Amazon and that would be a start as they have been gobbling up more warehouse space than any other company.  People want something in hours yet there is a cost to that.   There is no cost effective way to build warehouses multistory (only a few in the country) but their ceiling heights have greatly increased which adds more volume.  New buildings have 40 foot ceilings vs. 22 just a decade ago.   But if you dont like big huge warehouse stopping buying online at places like Amazon. 

[CLT2014]

8 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

the problem with this huge clear cut is the need for huge warehouses.  Don't buy from Amazon and that would be a start as they have been gobbling up more warehouse space than any other company.  People want something in hours yet there is a cost to that.   There is no cost effective way to build warehouses multistory (only a few in the country) but their ceiling heights have greatly increased which adds more volume.  New buildings have 40 foot ceilings vs. 22 just a decade ago.   But if you dont like big huge warehouse stopping buying online at places like Amazon. 

Yep, and the "Amazon" effect pretty much forces other retailers to open up multiple warehouses as well. Target, Walmart, Best Buy, Macy's, CVS, HomeDepot, et... all need regional warehouses now in every decent sized city in the country in order to meet next-day delivery expectations of customers. Gone are the days of having a couple warehouses to serve the entire country with a 5 - 10 day delivery window. You now need to be in the heart of each metro area. Warehouse sprawl is just meeting consumer demand.... and Americans right now are buying A LOT of stuff. We love things and we love online shopping.

Edited November 18, 2021 by CLT2014